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Location: Vic
Registered: July 2004
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WHICH OF THESE ENGINES IS BEST????
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Thu, 12 August 2004 14:37
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Dear Toymods people,
I have a 77 model celica ra28 with a supra 5 speed gearbox, with the W series bellhousing.(im pretty sure)
Now, which of the following engines is the most simplest and easiest to modify before putting into the Celica.(non turbo)
22R (not sure, anyone know standard HP for the NA version)
22R modified: tell me
18RG (120-145HP standard)
18RG modified (180-200HP 8 valve setup)(more common than 16V)
18RG modified(280-300HP 16 valve setup)(very rare engine)
2TG (110hp to 125hp standard)
2TG modified: tell me
3SG(will this bolt onto my current W series gearbox?)(115HP standard)
3SG Modified: not sure, tell me
And can anyone tell me what year of the 3SG engine had the most HP in NA Form as a standard production line engine? And would it fit the W series gearbox like the earlier 3SG engines?
All who are giving me advice, thank you, and maybe one day I can help you guys with advice!
Thank you
Kind Regards
Phill
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Location: c'town, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: WHICH OF THESE ENGINES IS BEST????
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Thu, 12 August 2004 22:27

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it wont be a matter of which engine is best it will be a matter of "how much are you willing to spend"
tell us this and we will tell you what engine.
as a starter tho, u can rule out these engines:
18RG modified(280-300HP 16 valve setup)(very rare engine)
2TG (110hp to 125hp standard)
2TG modified: tell me
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: WHICH OF THESE ENGINES IS BEST????
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Thu, 12 August 2004 22:54

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22R standard puts out ~110bhp. Is there any special reason you're avoiding turbo? Does the 4A-GZE count as turbo? 
if you're rich, the beams 3s-ge is a great n/a option (200bhp). Something else I'd love to see is a 1UZ-fe in there, but I'm guessing that's not quite what you're after! 
bt yeah, give us a price range and we'll be of more help
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Location: Montrose, VIC
Registered: May 2002
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Re: WHICH OF THESE ENGINES IS BEST????
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Fri, 13 August 2004 00:00

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Go the 1G, or a turbo'd 22R
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Location: Canberra
Registered: May 2002
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Re: WHICH OF THESE ENGINES IS BEST????
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Fri, 13 August 2004 05:51
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'77 W series gearbox will not bolt up to a 3SG-. Your '77 probably has a W50, or if lucky a W57 with modded g'box x member, or if youre real lucky a P50. The 3SG requires a W55/W57, or W58. You will need a 2SC bellhousing to fit any of these boxes to a 3SGE/3SGTE.
regards Chuck.
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