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icon14.gif  mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Sun, 15 August 2004 02:58 Go to next message
I have spoken to few people on the forums about the comming of the motor and i suppose i have been talking it up a fair bit too, Well everything is ready in terms of parts execpt for my bloody gear box, just before i put the car in to upgrade the motor, i blew a box.

I droped the 5th gear fork and it cought on the 5th gear and smashed it to pecies. Anf its becoming a great challange finding parts for the lsd gear boxes. Apperntly there are 3 types of these LSD boxes, so parts seems to vary.

So once the box is sorted out, everything goes on.

the list at the moment:
garrett GT35r
custom made exhaust manifold
tial 38mm wastegate
custom screemer pipe
custom dump pipe
hks 680cc injectors
hks fuel rail
surge tank
bosh external fuel pump
intercoolering pipes were re done, as were the IC mounts.
this is all i can think of at the moment. i will attach some images of the turbo and manifold when i get a chance.

below is a dyno result that we got this is not the final result im expecting more then this...... for those who cant see it 271rwkw
http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/411efdc2_c231/bc/My+Documents/dyno1.jpg?bfnFKVBBkXJkUujD
here is the link with some images http://briefcase.yahoo.com/revup35

[Updated on: Fri, 24 September 2004 22:20]

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Re: mr2 update for those intrested Wed, 18 August 2004 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sounds sweet dude; that's a sexy lookin manifold as well!

What gen engine are u/will u be running?
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested Fri, 20 August 2004 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanx mate
its only the Gen 2 3sgte... It always has been but it was built internally about 1 year ago, so its been ready for this treatment for sometime.

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Re: mr2 update for those intrested Tue, 14 September 2004 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message

Yeah i agree!

Looks tha goods!!
is it gonna be ready for that Show N Shine on the october long weekend!???!!
maybe we can finally get all the MR2 boys together for it!!!
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested Wed, 15 September 2004 23:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
That manifold looks very nice, who made it?

In response to the other's yes it would be nice to have a bunch of MR2's at the show, except they'll make mine look average. Confused
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested Fri, 24 September 2004 22:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
micks metal craft made it...


almost done now.... i cant wait *jumping up and down like a little boy getting a maccas toy.
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested Sat, 25 September 2004 21:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Clasique71 allways calls my mr2 the maccas car. Laughing

271RWKW ey...... hmmmmmm Cool
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Sun, 26 September 2004 01:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MR. 2 wrote on Sun, 15 August 2004 12:58

for those who cant see it 271rwkw



Dang, that sounds like fun! Evil or Very Mad
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Sun, 26 September 2004 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
took her for a drive the other day and f^*k me does it move.... but its not moving anymore though LOL dumped the clucth at 5g and bang.... u guessed it the CV housing smashed to pecies... just order billit steel ballbearing case and the the inner of the CV.... luck i have a spear to replace it with for the time being... should be back on the road soon...

also no real traction problems at all, which should see a mid to low 11 second pass. when the CV's have been sorted of course.
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Sun, 26 September 2004 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
god DAMN! haha, f@cking awesome!
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Tue, 28 September 2004 00:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Very impressive.

I've got a few questions about your setup.

  1. What compression ratio are you running
  2. What cams are you running
  3. what boost are you running the GT35R at
  4. What revs does the GT35R start making usable (say 10lbs) boost at
  5. What revs are you getting maximum boost at

I'm thinking about going a bit overboard and building a strong bottom end plus some decent cams for my Gen3 but I don't know what Turbo I want. I'm thinking since the standard engine can make 200KW at the wheels fairly easily, if I'm going to build one I better make sure I have a turbo that can push 300KW at the wheels. I was hoping to get away with something a bit smaller than a GT35R, not just for response but also because there's SFA space in my engine bay to fit a huge turbo.

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Re: mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Tue, 28 September 2004 04:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok to answer all your questions...
my comp is 7.5:1
std gen 2 3sgte cams for the bottom end pick up.
the boost is set to 20psi at the moment.
the turbo dosnt make boost till 4500 rpm at 5200 shes at full boost.... the best thing about these turbos or any GT series turbos is when they hit boost they hit hard and spool to max boost extreamly quickly.


its a slug till 4500 but boy does it move once its made boost. also if you dont run a reasonable amount of boost into these turbo's you will make stuff all power, and the the dyno curve is more flat if u look at the one i have put on its straight up. where as with lower boost say 15psi its dosnt really do that much its more flat slow increase of power.... on the dyno when it hits boost at 15psi its springs up a little... on 20psi its like its going to jump off the rollers. also this would depend on your comp ratio the high it is the less boost you would need to run. but gt series do respond better to more boost.

also 300kw is alot of power and is very achivable but i do suggest building the motor to the best spec you can. also for this power i wouldnt use anything less then the gt30 with the rear of 0.82 for this output figure.

hope this helps and good luck.

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Re: mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Tue, 28 September 2004 06:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dang, that sounds VERY impressive. I guess you'll be beating my 11.96 pretty soon then. With some time playing around with the tune, you should be able to add to that already massive 271rwkw. Before you run it, I recommend you get that axle kit that they sell in America (ATS Racing) for SW20's. These will allow you to use nice grippy tyres without breaking axles, resulting in bloody good 60 foot times and crazy low ET's.

BTW, did you see my car in the current issue 5 of AutoSalon magazine??
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Tue, 28 September 2004 06:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no but i will get my hands on it now that i know...
yeah thats already on order the one with the billit steel cages and the inner.... i have them on order LOL no wasting time here... Also there isnt that much timming in the motor yet, just wanna make sure she runs right before we put more timming in it. Also have you had any issues with the axels before?? i was told by CV specialist that its because the car is lowered, and therefoer when it bogs down there is too much pressure, thats why its snaping! it makes sense but... ???? just no more burnouts until i have the stringer inners.
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Tue, 28 September 2004 07:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Awesome output. Well done.

I'd say the shape of your power curve is going to be really hard on CV's and shafts, and with the MR2 always launching so well, it will compound the problem.

If those graphs are early tune, it'l be interesting to see what happens to power delivery later with extra timing etc.

How much does it squat when it launches?

Again - well done. It makes me want mine back!
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Tue, 28 September 2004 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MR. 2 wrote on Tue, 28 September 2004 16:45

no but i will get my hands on it now that i know...
yeah thats already on order the one with the billit steel cages and the inner.... i have them on order LOL no wasting time here... Also there isnt that much timming in the motor yet, just wanna make sure she runs right before we put more timming in it. Also have you had any issues with the axels before?? i was told by CV specialist that its because the car is lowered, and therefoer when it bogs down there is too much pressure, thats why its snaping! it makes sense but... ???? just no more burnouts until i have the stringer inners.



Good thinking!! That ATS kit should prevent any future problems. Your launch technique will also damage your axles. Dumping the clutch is a no no in my books, I slip it. I'd rather burn out a clutch than have to mess around with axles ever again. So yes, I have snapped axles before. When using some Nitto drag tyres from a friends race import, I ran my 11.96, and eventually burnt out the clutch and broke my axles shortly after on another launch attempt (not at track). Even with my output, breaking axles was inevitable, so in your case, it's an issue of when not if (that is if you're using standard axles, inners etc).
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Tue, 28 September 2004 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your launch technique will also damage your axles. Dumping the clutch is a no no in my books, I slip it. I'd rather burn out a clutch than have to mess around with axles ever again. So yes, I have snapped axles before. When using some Nitto drag tyres from a friends race import, I ran my 11.96, and eventually burnt out the clutch and broke my axles shortly after on another launch attempt (not at track). Even with my output, breaking axles was inevitable, so in your case, it's an issue of when not if (that is if you're using standard axles, inners etc).


its nice too see others shar my frustrations and problems. The only problem i have with sliping the clutch is that i have a brass button, on or off you can ride it to a degree but if your after the times and need the fast good launch slipping the clutch isnt a real option. I will just have to leave the street tyres on and make sure there is plenty of air, as traction dosnt seem to be an issue at the moment. (gotta love the mid mount)

cant wait too see the feature on your beast
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Tue, 28 September 2004 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MR2's can be the best and worst cars in the world at times. In the end, I think its worth it though. I love mine.

I have a brass button clutch too, and it did take a few attempts to get used to slipping it (not good for it though). Remember that time a long way back when you and I had a few quick little runs, that was pure brass button slipping action right there Smile

BTW, for more grip, you'd wanna use less air (lower tyre pressure), not more. Let me know what you think of the magazine feature when you get the chance to read it.
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Tue, 28 September 2004 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah i know this... but the reason i said i want more tyre pressure is so that its spins to save the stress on the CV inners. Normal speaking i would run as little as 13psi in the tyres before for the traction. but now i have the worries of CV's.

I remember that night. I have to say that was well done for slippin tha brass... i must try more i think. LOL

also have you spoken to kyle latley, apparently my brother reckons he saw the car again, but with the clear tail lights (NOOOOOOOOO), do you know if he still owns the 2 ?
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Tue, 28 September 2004 23:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi Brad,

Give me your Turbo! Evil or Very Mad

J.K. Laughing

Dude you have to take me for a spin. Thats some serious power.

Well done! Cool
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Wed, 29 September 2004 00:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MR. 2 wrote on Wed, 29 September 2004 08:43

yeah i know this... but the reason i said i want more tyre pressure is so that its spins to save the stress on the CV inners. Normal speaking i would run as little as 13psi in the tyres before for the traction. but now i have the worries of CV's.

I remember that night. I have to say that was well done for slippin tha brass... i must try more i think. LOL

also have you spoken to kyle latley, apparently my brother reckons he saw the car again, but with the clear tail lights (NOOOOOOOOO), do you know if he still owns the 2 ?


Smart thinking with the CV's then, hopefully you don't run into anymore problems with them.

I still speak to Kyle once in a while, and yes, he still does own the 2, and yes (or should I say no??) he does have clear tail lights. I think he always liked them, so when I told him they sell them at Penrith Toyota, he went bought em the next weekend. He hasn't done much to his car lately, except the tail lights and new shadow chrome rims.
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Re: mr2 update for those intrested... dyno rsult Wed, 29 September 2004 06:37 Go to previous message
got rice!?!?

LOL gotta love it. hahahah
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