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icon4.gif  ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Wed, 18 September 2002 04:06 Go to next message
am wondering if anyone knows if cressida srtuts are AT ALL interchangeable with the struts on the ma61 supra??

see diagram below for the bit i mean. not interested in the lower ball joint, just the strut and stub axle assembly...

please, someone tell me theyre interchangable!!

http://www.eds.au.com/toymods/frontbrakeassembly.gif

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Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Wed, 18 September 2002 09:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hell, does anyone even know if the ma61 and ra65 struts are interchangable??

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Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Wed, 18 September 2002 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'd imagine they would be. The front brakes and stuff are the same, I think they should be the same.
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Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Wed, 18 September 2002 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
And that is the MA61/RA65 question.
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Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Wed, 18 September 2002 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok...
seeing as no-one knows...
what are the major issue with struts which could possibly interfer with interchangability?? if they bolt on and the wheel sticks out straight, are there any other issues???

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Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Wed, 18 September 2002 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what model cressida we talkin here

ive noticed the older cressys (4 stud) have what looks like the same brakes as the RA/MA6#

ed if u need a good look u can check out my old mans MX83 one day
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icon7.gif  Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Wed, 18 September 2002 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mate, you should check out my thread about Differences between RA60 & RA65 struts.

Nark and Celicamad85 seem to think that they are one and the same item. And the MA60/61 supra struts are identical also.

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Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Wed, 18 September 2002 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah, just noticed that post. cool

question ultimately is though: do any of the cressida struts fit in??

theres an mx62 ill compare with the ra65 at the wreckers...hopefully theyll be the same Smile
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Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Wed, 18 September 2002 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah, just noticed that post. cool

question ultimately is though: do any of the cressida struts fit in??

theres an mx62 ill compare with the ra65 at the wreckers...hopefully theyll be the same Smile
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Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Wed, 18 September 2002 14:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MA61 and cressida brakes are different! Everyone seems to think they are the same but they are not. Disc surface areas and pad sizes are smaller on the cressida.

I played around with this stuff when i upgraded the suspension on my first supra, i may be wrong but i do vaguely remember the spring thicknesses being about 2mm different. Which is a fair bit.
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Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Wed, 18 September 2002 23:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It sounds like you're going to have to grab your tape measure and go to the wreckers. Smile I really hope it's an easy swap!
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Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Thu, 19 September 2002 00:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
So what am I gonna do to upgrade my MX62 cressida brakes then??

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Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Thu, 19 September 2002 02:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok,
to clarify, i dont care about the brakes, springs, hub sizes, spindle dia etc etc etc... its ALL going to be modified! i just need to know if the thing will physically bolt in to an ma61 without sending the wheel off in weired directions !?!

they seeem pretty similar... but i dont know what "hidden" issues lie in stut desgn that im not considering.

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Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Thu, 19 September 2002 02:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think the main thing to consider is the angle between the spindle and the strut tube, which I think is called the kingpin angle. If this is different, you're going to have all sorts of dramas with wheel alignment! I ran into this problem when I put MA61 struts in my RA23 - it all bolted in perfectly, but the wheels had positive camber. Sad

Not sure how you'd go about measuring this at a wrecking yard though....
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Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Thu, 19 September 2002 03:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so does that angle primarily effect camber, or does it also make the toe in / out vary as well??

cant you just adjust your steering tie rods to account for toe in / out ??

camber, well that would be a shit. uless it was like 5deg + perhaps Smile

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Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Thu, 19 September 2002 05:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nah it just affects camber; toe can be adjusted by the steering arms.
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Re: ma61 / cressida strut interchangability ??? Thu, 19 September 2002 06:06 Go to previous message
Obviously you dudes will need to measure lower control arm length. Std mod for RA40 to get more camber is MX62 arms - they're a bit longer.
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