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Super Jamie
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Springs captive at full suspension droop Fri, 20 August 2004 06:58 Go to next message
i want to lower the front of my ke25, which has macpherson struts. i have some custom rally springs i bought off a guy, but they aren't captive at full droop. they certainly stay in the car during all sorts of conditions, certainly nothing as severe as what i'll be putting it through

i've called an engineer and rta tech enquiries, and they tell me there is NO RULE that says springs have to be captive at full droop. local highway patrol didn't know of such a rule, and said it would only be a problem if the spring popped out and caused an accident. so it looks like i can use these springs!
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Re: Springs captive at full suspension droop Fri, 20 August 2004 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'd say that infomation would very much differ, not only state to state, but also person to person within the state. I'd check again, and then get it in writing before I took it as gospel, cos we all know the "ruling" will be abused if it's allowed as such?! I also know rally cars tie springs into struts, which if faced with that scenario is what I'd do!
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Re: Springs captive at full suspension droop Fri, 20 August 2004 07:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
an engineer, rta tech enquiries, highway patrol and an authorised inspection station all say the same thing. i'm happy with that. the springs were cable tied in on the rally car, i'll do the same to mine Smile
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Re: Springs captive at full suspension droop Fri, 20 August 2004 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I would wire in the springs. Drill some holes in the tops, loop some wire thru and tie it to secure the spring to the strut top. Repeat for the bottom.

Even if it is legal (which I would doubt), why would you risk it?
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Re: Springs captive at full suspension droop Fri, 20 August 2004 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shorter stroke shocks...

problem solved
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Re: Springs captive at full suspension droop Fri, 20 August 2004 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah i'm thinking i'll wire or hose clamp them

can you suggest a shorter stroke shock that fits inside ke20 struts and maintains adequate damper travel? ae86 inserts are still ~8mm away from being captive

getting the struts shortened isn't really within the budget, and would be a waste on ke20 struts anyway. i'd use scorpion control arms, custom control arm bushes, ae86 power steer arms, ae86 struts and have them changed to short stroke height adjustables. way too much money at the moment. this way i bolt it all together and it costs me nothing Smile
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Re: Springs captive at full suspension droop Fri, 20 August 2004 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oh yes, add the FC3S brake upgrade to that little wish list Smile slightly better than the stock 200mm discs i have now haha
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Re: Springs captive at full suspension droop Fri, 20 August 2004 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Use AE86 Tokico HTS inserts. Total travel of 125mm. They will be captive, no doubt about it.
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Re: Springs captive at full suspension droop Fri, 20 August 2004 15:21 Go to previous message
Super Jamie wrote on Fri, 20 August 2004 17:30

can you suggest a shorter stroke shock that fits inside ke20 struts and maintains adequate damper travel? ae86 inserts are still ~8mm away from being captive


I pick up AE92 on, struts to rob the shafts out of them, purely for this purpose!!! MR2 are also good, if you want to make your own insert up?!
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