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Rocky Mountains, Canada
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May 2002
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Body too bad to repair??
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Mon, 23 August 2004 04:43
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Hi all,
Is this RA28 shell worth working on?
I bought the car for a lot more than it was worth, and as i stripped it down, i found more and more rust.
See the photos here.
The hatch it came with is almost perfect (only a little surface rust), ive got a new bonnet and doors for it.
I love the RA28's and they are very rare here in Adelaide.
Finding one without rust is almost impossible.
If i were to go ahead fixing the rust, what would be the best way to go about it?
Thanks.
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Location:
Rocky Mountains, Canada
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May 2002
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Re: Body too bad to repair??
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Mon, 23 August 2004 04:46
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Oh, also, in the photos you can see a thick white layer under the black paint.
What is this?
Would it all need to be removed before a respray?
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: Body too bad to repair??
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Mon, 23 August 2004 04:47
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I dont reckon that would be too hard for a good panel shop to fix. My 28 had a bit of rust in it, same spot on the roof as yours (admittantly not as bad as yours though), needed a whole new section made where the spare wheel goes, same pillar rust. They were able to cut it all out and weld new metal in.
Its amazing what good panel shops can do.. My ae86 had a dint I thought never could be removed, but they got it straight as anything with hardly any filler.
Just ask around and find out who is good in your area and see them.
Cheers
Joel
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Terrigal
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Re: Body too bad to repair??
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Mon, 23 August 2004 04:48
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I think it should be taken back to bare metal!
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Location:
Rocky Mountains, Canada
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May 2002
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Re: Body too bad to repair??
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Mon, 23 August 2004 04:54
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The thing that im worried about is rust coming back in 1yr time.
Could a penel/paint shop prevent the sills, etc rusting out any further?
I was considering doing a full shell acid dip & etch, but have decided i dont want to go that far.
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Body too bad to repair??
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Mon, 23 August 2004 05:57
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it may be able to be saved.. but finding a cleaner less rusty shell might save u alot of money
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Location:
Gold Coast
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October 2002
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Re: Body too bad to repair??
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Mon, 23 August 2004 06:24
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Depends how bad you want to keep it. I seriously susgest that you keep all the good parts and wait for something else. Maybe it was meant to be and you will find an excellent shell for 500-1000 
The way i see it is the more repairs the panel beater does the more things will be fucked up. It is possable for someone to fix the car but it will cost you and you will either get a shit job or a good job, but you wont know what you get until a couple of years.
I have to disagree with turbo28 that if you get it done properly there is no reason why it shouldnt last 10 years, but the trouble is finding someone that will do it properly...
and usually the best person is yourself
Daniel
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Body too bad to repair??
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Mon, 23 August 2004 06:34
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as for that sort of rust repair with a proper respray expect around 7-8k for a job
my car is out for a respray atm with way way WAY less rust than that, all panels taken off and all rust replaced with new metal.. all up the job is worth around 5-6k.. but im getting it for 2k(gf's dad just happens to be an awesome beater/sprayer)
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Location:
Sydney
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June 2004
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Re: Body too bad to repair??
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Mon, 23 August 2004 06:48
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munki i disagree with you and agree with turbora28, my mate is a panel beater and the best job in the world would stills ee rust come back put in 3-5 years BUt rust proofing should be lifetime if done correctly
your best bet is not to wait for another shell cause that will cost you bout $1000 and that will have rust somewhere and to get that fixed will also cost BUT for bout $1000-$1500 (max cause its shell only) you can get it all sand blasted and every SPEC of rust will be gone 100%, then if you know how to weld then weld plates where required or get the panel shop to do it
now if you sand blast it, weld everything required and rust proof it THEN rust should never ever come back if you look after it correctly, ie, fish oil the inside of panels where no paint will be and rust proof paint the outside, then etch primer, primer and paint 9or you can jsut lay primer on think to cover for etch primer makes no difference at all)
for my car i am paint stripping all the panels as there is no rust on them and are straight and sand blasting the shell only to get all rust out. works out cheaper than a full sand blast
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Location:
Gold Coast
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October 2002
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Re: Body too bad to repair??
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Mon, 23 August 2004 06:53
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so you disagree with me but then contradict yourself and say it can last if you fix it properly...  ?
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: Body too bad to repair??
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Mon, 23 August 2004 06:56
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The problem I see with rust proofing is its hard to get the stuff everywhere and in all cavities etc.
When we did mine we had the hoodlining out and pumped the stuff down into the pillars and inside doors, sills, rear 1/4 panels.
But then I got a bit of rust back just under where the fuel cap is. So maybe the proofing didn't get there, or maybe moisture got under the paint? not too sure...
I just reckon no matter how good the job is now and then some will find its way back.
I wish i could remember this better but my mate who is a panel beater was explaining to me that aged metal for some reason gets rust in it. Like little hairline spider cracks kinda. Said its hard to prevent this... Sorry that isn't very technical haha but I only recall him saying it and didn't really understand it.
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: Body too bad to repair??
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Mon, 23 August 2004 06:59
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I reckon we need more panel beaters on this forum
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Location:
Rocky Mountains, Canada
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May 2002
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: Body too bad to repair??
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Mon, 23 August 2004 09:25
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i disagree in respect to just cutting and welding plates but rust proofing and fish oil combined is different
M.W.P. : fish oil before paint cause it stinks and eats paint. also you can sand over spray before going to paint
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