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Driftspec
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Suspension setup + TEMS.. making the rider harder? Tue, 24 August 2004 04:56 Go to next message
Howdy All,

I am the owner of Lumpy's old MA70 Supra (waves Smile).

My previous 2 cars (1G-GTE Supra & R33 GTSt Skyline) both had coilovers in them, and well I am sort of addicted to the hard stance and handling they had Razz

I am wanting to harden up the ride in the MA70 WITHOUT removing the TEMS system.. dont feel like spending over 1k on coilovers... at present it has lowered springs in it with TEMS shocks.

I will be doing the TEMS switch mod soon so it makes the damper on the hardest setting all the times, but my question then comes down to springs... I know this will sound n00bish but here goes...

Is the hardness of your ride effect by the shocks or springs normally ... or both?

I am "hoping" that I will just be able to put harder springs in the car to harden the ride (and improve handling)... is this possible.

I am thinking about either Whiteline or Koni springs.

Cheers Smile

Rob
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Re: Suspension setup + TEMS.. making the rider harder? Tue, 24 August 2004 05:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
*waves back* Smile

I actually think it needs new springs - the aftermarket ones are probably getting a bit old (were in there when I bought it), and could be harder - esp in the rear end. The TEMS shocks are pretty new so getting new ones won't make much difference.


Hope you're still enjoying it!

Cheers,
Caelum
PS - Change your signature!

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Re: Suspension setup + TEMS.. making the rider harder? Tue, 24 August 2004 05:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the springs will stiffen the ride.

most lowered springs are stiffer than the stock items, tho ne more than 2inches (i think) arnt that stiff eg. kings super lows... so keep that in mind
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Re: Suspension setup + TEMS.. making the rider harder? Tue, 24 August 2004 05:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yep I am loving it Smile... power steering is still causing headaches for me... drained all the fluid and put transmax in.. now it is quiet when u start the car , but then after a while it starts getting noiser as u go on LOL.. its a mystery.. time to get a new pump and be done with it Razz

Oh and dif "clunks" on gear change a bit.. time for a new LSD centre I think hehe... any suggestions on type?.. JZA70R one?

Ok with the springs what brand should I go, what has the best rebound rate (hardest)?

Whiteline are about $150 front and $150 back for the springs,but im not sure how hard they are?.....even tho they say that they are not for adjustable suspension.. pfft sif Razz.

Oh Oh do you know how low the current springs are from standard?

PS changing sig now Razz

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Re: Suspension setup + TEMS.. making the rider harder? Tue, 24 August 2004 06:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmm - the diff is a clutch pack type, so you can probably take it to a diff specialist to get the clutches repacked/shimmed to take up any slack that it has.

The other thing is that it has a 4.3:1 ratio - which is very good for acceleration etc, but if you're driving up and down the freeway every day it's not so good for economy. A jza70 torsen diff will have a better ratio (3.9:1) for economy plus torsen's are supposed to be a little better than clutch-pack lsd's.

Springs at the moment are very low at front (I'd say a 2" drop) and a little lower at the back (not sure how low). The bilstein struts from the jza70r that you've got as spares have standard springs on them if you need to compare.

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Re: Suspension setup + TEMS.. making the rider harder? Tue, 24 August 2004 07:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cool , so I would need a completely new diff if I was to go for the torsen?.. or will the centre bolt in (wishful thinking?) hehe.

Are there any other options?.. TRD?

tks for the help, u are a walking Supra bible I swear Razz
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Re: Suspension setup + TEMS.. making the rider harder? Thu, 26 August 2004 06:25 Go to previous message
You may be able to use a Torsen centre in the G285 housing - but that's just a guess - bearings etc may be slightly different sizes. If you got a complete torsen diff that it should bolt in (came in the jza70 so should be same).

There are TRD options, but my first port of call would be to get the current diff checked out (may be uni joins clunking too).

Cheers,
Caelum
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