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HedgehogSandwich
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1jz weird vacuum pipe effect Wed, 25 August 2004 22:52 Go to next message
Hi all... me again Very Happy

anyway.. i've got silicon hose on most of my vaccum pipes.. recently the one that feeds the stock boost gauge (jza70) and also my after market boost gauge has been blowing off from the manifold.
Anyway, the same thing happened tonight, but this time i was under full boost... suddenly the car lurched forward with far far more power than it normally has.

Normally, i have loads of power in second (auto) and can accelerate hard, but once it switches to third it seems to lose all power..it still accelerates but nothing like it does in second. This time, when the pipe popped off (in 3rd and under hard boost) it accelerated like it does in second.. LOADS more power than normal.. but only for a second or two. After which , it went back to normal.

Does anyone have any ideas or clues why?

Cheers
adi

PS no its not the map sensor vacuum pipe before anyone says Very Happy..

[Updated on: Wed, 25 August 2004 22:53]

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Re: 1jz weird vacuum pipe effect Thu, 26 August 2004 00:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
id be checking the wastegate actuator hose one that goes from the turbo to the wastegate ,small piece of usually black colour hose if its come undone the car will have unlimited boost , not a good thing , a good thing if i u want to go fast but not for long as ur hg will be blown very soon

that what im thinking anyway couldbe something else
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Re: 1jz weird vacuum pipe effect Thu, 26 August 2004 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nope they're fine.. i only had the turbos off a few weeks back. Also,s the boost didn't rise at all.. it stayed the same as before... so its not a boost issue.. i'm thinking along the lines of fuel or ignition which was somehow changed briefly when the hose popped off.
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Re: 1jz weird vacuum pipe effect Thu, 26 August 2004 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
HedgehogSandwich wrote on Thu, 26 August 2004 08:52


anyway.. i've got silicon hose on most of my vaccum pipes.. recently the one that feeds the stock boost gauge (jza70) and also my after market boost gauge has been blowing off from the manifold.
Anyway, the same thing happened tonight, but this time i was under full boost... suddenly the car lurched forward with far far more power than it normally has.


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Also,s the boost didn't rise at all.. it stayed the same as before... so its not a boost issue..


how can you tell its not spiking more boost if the boost gauge hose is the one blowing off? Rolling Eyes
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Re: 1jz weird vacuum pipe effect Thu, 26 August 2004 11:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cause i'm running borderline fuel cut boost as standard.. ie just under 15psi... i'd hit fuelcut if i was suddenly spiking when the hose blew off.

Besides.. i cant see why a vacuum pipe on the inlet manifold coming off would produce more boost... i def think its an igntion or fuelling issue.. but i'm open to suggestions Very Happy
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Re: 1jz weird vacuum pipe effect Thu, 26 August 2004 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
following on....

the car is DEFINATELY quicker when this pipe has blown off...

can anyone think why?? Even guesses are welcome at this point Very Happy

The car has always been sluggish.. now it seems like its as it should be.. the only thing i can think of is that now the manifold pressure has a 'leak' from the output pipe that its somehow doing something to the fuelling..


anyone else?

Cheers
adi
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Re: 1jz weird vacuum pipe effect Thu, 26 August 2004 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It was probably the fuel pressure regulator vaccuum line (or attached to it). Which uses boost to control a rise in fuel pressure. If it were to blow off the fuel pressure would return to base pressure (much less) resulting in a lean condition, and (dangerously) more power.


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Re: 1jz weird vacuum pipe effect Fri, 27 August 2004 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hmmm the car is DEFINATELY quicker when this pipe is off.. but i've also noticed that it feeds some sort of solenoid on the bulkhead.. doesn anyone know what this is? perhaps some sort of vacuum advance for the ignition?

If you have a look on your 1J you'll see what i mean..
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Re: 1jz weird vacuum pipe effect Fri, 27 August 2004 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
its one of the pipes that feeds this whole arrangement.. what does all this lot do?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/adiwilllow/pipebit.jpg
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Re: 1jz weird vacuum pipe effect Sat, 28 August 2004 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Special Ed seems to be right again.

That is your heater solenoid. If hooked up incorrectly it feeds/starves ( one or the other)from the fuel regulator and will run your engine lean...detonation just around the corner.

I would look for a fuel trimming piggyback to tidy up the toyotat rich tune as a safer way of getting that power for your auto.

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Re: 1jz weird vacuum pipe effect Sat, 28 August 2004 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the heater solenoid can affect the fuelling? never knew Very Happy

okay cheers.. i've been meaning to fit an SAFC for a while now.. guess its a good excuse to get round to it..

Cheers
adi
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Re: 1jz weird vacuum pipe effect Sun, 29 August 2004 09:55 Go to previous message
Adi
Indeed it can on a 1JZ - I found out the hard way recently. After 45mins of retuning my ECU for recent mods and just finishing off some high boost runs, the hose leading to the Heater Tap VSV valve blew off.
The tuner refitted it but failed to notice the missing 1-way check valve which had falled off, so under boost the fuel pressure regulator was being bled off by the VSV valve - they share a common chamber inside the intake manifold.
The result was a leaning off of the A/F ratio by about 1-2 points above 4000rpm and resultant pinging.
Hours of head scrathing and failed retuning and subsequent searching for a vacuum/boost loss resulted in locating the 1-way check valve sitting on the engine mount!!
As soon as it was re-fitted, AFRs retuned back to normal and again the ignition/fuel maps were retuned...cables ties are your friend!
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