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icon4.gif  Shoddy workmanship from mechanic questions about rights etc... Fri, 27 August 2004 05:29 Go to next message
I have some questions regarding what I can do to the dodgy mechanics that endangered my car and possibly life with their shoddy workmanship... If anyone has experience in similar situations to the one below, please post.

The story:

I am planning a trip down the Great Ocean Road this weekend so I decided to get the rattles in my car checked out to make sure they aren't serious or dangerous.

I went to a mate's workshop to get him to whack it on the hoist for me... When we were wiggling stuff to locate the source of the noises we noticed some serious problems with the work done by a mechanic I had taken my car to.

The nuts and bolts on the lower end of the shock absorbers (on both sides of the car) were loose. On the right hand side one nut had actually fallen off and was missing with the bolt partially out. The left hand side had the nut right at the end of the bolt and wasn't far from dissappearing as well. I took some pictures because I happened to have my camera, from a uni site excursion, in the car.

http://img31.exs.cx/img31/5962/LRnutlosehalfsize.th.jpghttp://img31.exs.cx/img31/7003/RRboltcomingouthalfsize.th.jpghttp://img31.exs.cx/img31/6100/RRnutmissinghalfsize.th.jpg
Pic 1: Right hand side rear showing loose nut.
Pic 2: Left hand side rear showing bolt on its way out.
Pic 3: Left hand side rear showing where the nut should be. Notice the dirt meaning the nut has been gone for a while.

The only stuff I have had done to the Cressida's suspension is getting lowered springs and new shock boots fitted. This work was done on 18/03/04 by a company I shall name rewoperyT and nobody has touched the car's suspension since. It hasn't even been on a hoist between then and today.

Nuts don't just come undone unless they are left loose... I may not be so annoyed if it wasn't on BOTH SIDES... That means that the rewoperyT mechanics definitely didn't tighten them properly. My car was not roadworthy because of this and I would assume that it is a legal obligation for them to point out unsafe aspects of the car to me let alone be the cause of the unsafe aspects!

If the shock absorber had disconnected at the bottom, not only would I have no dampers and be bouncing all over the place but it could possibly foul the wheel or CV or ... and lock up sending me into a spin. Now it may seem unlikely that I would die, but it definitely is not unlikely the shock would come off... It was a matter of time not a matter of whether or not it would happen. One bolt was already coming out! Shocked

What should I do? Confused
What have other people done in these situations? Can I claim my money back? Smile
Is this a good chance for me to start my extortion career? Razz
I have laryngitis at the moment so I was waiting until my voice is at maximum yelling power before I go and confront the cnuts. Evil or Very Mad

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Re: Shoddy workmanship from mechanic questions about rights etc... Fri, 27 August 2004 05:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i was gonna say if its just a bolt lose maybe just let it go, accidents happen but on both sides... thats a little careless. i have to say i think you will go no-where chasing this up, i mean its worth a try but they will probably tell you where to go. maybe if something came off causeing damage and would cost you money they MIGHT if you lucky fix it, but nothing has actually gone wrong so i dont think you will get anything.
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Re: Shoddy workmanship from mechanic questions about rights etc... Fri, 27 August 2004 06:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I wonder what VACC would think about it if I told them? Rolling Eyes

The suspension was the last thing I ever got done at (nice try) because they were fucking wankers and the boss was a complete tightarse.

I had to go and buy a new nut and also spend time at another mechanic's workshop fixing the problem. Confused

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Re: Shoddy workmanship from mechanic questions about rights etc... Fri, 27 August 2004 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It will be interesting to see what the VACC will do.

Remember that 90% of tyre shop mechanics are a few cards short of a deck- they are a race apart from normal folk. Yelling at them will only make their inner neanderthal come out.
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Re: Shoddy workmanship from mechanic questions about rights etc... Fri, 27 August 2004 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I know yelling at them won't do much if anything... That's why I am asking for advice.


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[Updated on: Fri, 27 August 2004 17:32] by Moderator

Did I say something wrong? Confused
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Re: Shoddy workmanship from mechanic questions about rights etc... Fri, 27 August 2004 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi,

There's website that's dedicated to crap service and stuff like that. Damned if I can remember it now. People that get crap service and that put the place and incident on the site.

Assuming you speak to this mechanic and get no-where, you inform them of the website. Maybe they'll check it out and see their place of business being slagged on the net for the world to see how crap they are.

Failing that, crank up your own website and tell them that they got an honourable mention. Hopefully, they'll go and see their name there and see that they've been pinged for being a bunch of dunderclumps.

Other than that, there is very little you can do, except tell whoever, whenever to avoid at all costs.

A friend of mine got fried with bad service from a local Holden dealer. He spoke to them but got nowhere, so he stuck a set of roof racks on his Nova with a sign on it that told of their crap service and attitude. He used to park it in their car park - until they told him to get lost - so he parked it outside the dealership. They tried to get the cops, but there is very little they could do. Apparently it really pissed off the dealership, but in the end, nothing came of it and he sold the Nova and bought a proper Toyota. I don't think he's had a problem since.

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Re: Shoddy workmanship from mechanic questions about rights etc... Fri, 27 August 2004 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://www.notgoodenough.org

That the one? Surprised
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Re: Shoddy workmanship from mechanic questions about rights etc... Fri, 27 August 2004 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi,

Yep, that's it.

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Re: Shoddy workmanship from mechanic questions about rights etc... Sat, 28 August 2004 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
my situation is similar but I have less proof I think.

I used to go to a place call xamrotoR and i got him to install my twin dump pipes and my celicamad boost controller (with instructions) He installed the boost controller incorrectly and then went and "tested/raped" my car. When I picked it up it was still hot from its last flogging as he wanted to take another customer for a ride in it Confused

I drove it for a total of 10 minutes and hit boost once and it wasn't very much. Then put it on the trailor took it to the drags, get to the drags and I now have a noise in the bottom end. that was 2 months ago and I am not in the process of swapping a new engine in.

I had to call him up for some advice on my auto as I had no one else to ring on a sunday and he says to me "make sure this new engine isn't detonating because it was detonating when I was driving it"

I don't think I can do anything as i drove it for 10 minutes between the time that he drove it and it died. Just a fucking waste of my time and money.

If anybody wants the name of the business PM me. It is on the sunshine coast and just about all of them are dodgy around here anyway.
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Re: Shoddy workmanship from mechanic questions about rights etc... Sat, 28 August 2004 02:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1 - let it go, if you saw the problem and took it straight to them in stead of fixing it then they would have to fix it for you, but cause now there has been play with it they can deny everything
2 - i would register them on the site F!@K the C!@TS
3 - if your mate is a mechanic why did you go somewhere else to do work????????? Rolling Eyes

A BIT OFF TOPIC
why cant we say the business name? if we are here t help each other out including experience, then wouldnt it be nice to know where not to go? instead of having more people potentially going to the same shonky place???
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Re: Shoddy workmanship from mechanic questions about rights etc... Sat, 28 August 2004 04:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
can't say business name because of our fucked up legal system that allows businesses to sue websites like this for defamation even if they did do shit work.

Fucking ridiculous if you ask me, but that is the way it is. So if you want the name of the business just PM the person complaining.
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Re: Shoddy workmanship from mechanic questions about rights etc... Sun, 29 August 2004 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fade-e wrote on Sat, 28 August 2004 12:57

1 - let it go, if you saw the problem and took it straight to them in stead of fixing it then they would have to fix it for you, but cause now there has been play with it they can deny everything
2 - i would register them on the site F!@K the C!@TS
3 - if your mate is a mechanic why did you go somewhere else to do work????????? Rolling Eyes



First thing, I wasn't going to drive it anywhere in the state it was in. That bolt was on it's way out.

Secondly, my mate is a mechanic apprentice... he also works a fair way from my house. I don't fully trust his depth of knowledge of stuff yet. Wink
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Re: Shoddy workmanship from mechanic questions about rights etc... Mon, 30 August 2004 10:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok ! what pound springs did you put in? does it hit the bump stops from time to time? are the springs cut or proper springs. these are questions you will be asked. as shock loading can undo nuts. check your shocks and make sure the shaft nut(the top of the actual shock that holds the oil in.) they come undone in hard sprung lowered cars. if there not loose etc then he has pretty much stuffed up and left the bolts loose. the trouble you have is you put lowered springs in,which is fine but the powers to be will say its because of the lowered springs that it loosened the nuts!go figure but its the way it works,same as pot holes stuffing an after market rim with lowered suspenssion.
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Re: Shoddy workmanship from mechanic questions about rights etc... Mon, 30 August 2004 10:28 Go to previous message
The springs aren't real hard... I occasionally hit the bumpstops on the front but don't recall ever hitting the rear bumpstops (the loose nuts were on the rear). They are 1 3/4" lowered springs made by K-Mac. Don't know too many specs. I've calmed down now... The general feeling is that I can't be fucked doing anything about it now. Confused
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