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mano
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Is it worth getting a 4A GE engine for my sprinter Wed, 01 September 2004 01:01 Go to next message
Hi Guys.

i am going to buy an AE86 sprinter in about 2 months. I want to get my procedures set up now... I was wondering wether i should get a 4a ge engine. Whats better about them? How much do they cost? and where can i get one?

Cheers Very Happy
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Dirty_Sanchez
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Re: Is it worth getting a 4A GE engine for my sprinter Wed, 01 September 2004 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It really depends on what you plan on doing with the sprinter. A 4age is a decent upgrade from the old 4ac and will give you a reasonable increase in power as well as being an economical engine. Something like that would be suitable for someone who would drive the car on a daily basis.

As for where you can get an engine, sss automotive in sydney sell them for a good price i believe.
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Re: Is it worth getting a 4A GE engine for my sprinter Wed, 01 September 2004 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
YES THROW YOUR 4AC OUT THE WINDOWWWWW

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Re: Is it worth getting a 4A GE engine for my sprinter Wed, 01 September 2004 03:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4A-GE definitly a good upgrade, but don't waste your money on an old RWD levin motor..go to a reputable Wrecker (if there is such a thing) or a place that imports front cuts etc..and get a late model 100Kw small port 4AGE these motors will outlast and outperform the olderones, they a built a bit stronger, and will have alot less Km's on them, you can find them in aussie AE92 corollas look for the engines that don't have T-VIS ritten on the intake plemnum..even better do what i did, put a 4AGZE (supercharged) in, OHH WHAT A FEELING INDEED!!! (mine already had a 4AGE in it)
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Re: Is it worth getting a 4A GE engine for my sprinter Wed, 01 September 2004 03:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
more to do with your original Question..the motor the aussie sprinters get is a 4A-C single cam (we never get the good motors Crying or Very Sad ), 8 valve, non cross flow head, caburettor equiped engine, rated at about 56kw (if that) not all that crash hot right..the 4AGE is one of, if not the best engine toyota has built/designed (ask anyone on this forum, they will tell you the same Very Happy ) all of them sport Fuel injection (hence E in the name 4a-gE) and G means they have a Twin-cam head with the valves at 45 deg or greater (designed for the sporty range of toyotas motors) i could go on forever about them, but there are many great pages on them, like this one..

http://www.billzilla.org/4agstock.htm

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Re: Is it worth getting a 4A GE engine for my sprinter Wed, 01 September 2004 05:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
on the contrary, the 100kw and the 86kw doesn't have much difference.

a jdm rwd engine will have less conversion hassles.
also, I heard somewhere that they fractionally have more torque than a 100 kwter

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Re: Is it worth getting a 4A GE engine for my sprinter Wed, 01 September 2004 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if your planning to buy a sprinter and then do the conversion i highly recomend just buying one with the conversion already done. It usually works out quite a bit cheaper in the end anyway
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Re: Is it worth getting a 4A GE engine for my sprinter Wed, 01 September 2004 06:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Intensevil wrote on Wed, 01 September 2004 15:30

if your planning to buy a sprinter and then do the conversion i highly recomend just buying one with the conversion already done. It usually works out quite a bit cheaper in the end anyway


But then you have a car that someone has already thrashed the guts out of...

Do it yourself man, you will appreciate the vehicle more and you will learn more.

Seriously do it yourself
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Re: Is it worth getting a 4A GE engine for my sprinter Wed, 01 September 2004 07:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
there are almost ZERO parts that are the same between the smallport and bigport 4A-GEs.

THe block, head, cams, pistons, crank, rods, manifolds, looms, ecu, injectors, water pumps, etc etc etc.... these are ALL different.

i recommend the 100kW (smallport) version. Its not nearly as hard as people make out.

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mano
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Re: Is it worth getting a 4A GE engine for my sprinter Wed, 01 September 2004 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey thanx very much for info guys Razz much much appreciated..

ye i think i will buy a stock sprinter and then go from there in terms of engine conversions.

Thanx again
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Re: Is it worth getting a 4A GE engine for my sprinter Wed, 01 September 2004 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
putting a 100kw in is just as easy as doing an 86 you just need to mod some cooling hoses, move the throttle body from front to back, and put thermo fans on it itstead of a clutch fan, well worth the effort for a newer stronger engine if you ask me....and the 86kw motor has it's peak torque point a little lower than the 100kw thanks to the T-VIS, the torque is about the same..

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Re: Is it worth getting a 4A GE engine for my sprinter Mon, 06 September 2004 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i will just say yes, (as in starsky and hutch) Do it, Do it, Do it.
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Re: Is it worth getting a 4A GE engine for my sprinter Tue, 07 September 2004 05:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey,
a few months ago i did the 100kw 4age conv. into my AE86 and....... ho what a feeling indeed!!!! do it. no question about it. if u can, drive someones car that already has one in it then u will see what your in for. the conversion was pretty easy. i did it all myself and had minimal dramas.
it makes the ae86 come alive.
cheers
jono
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Re: Is it worth getting a 4A GE engine for my sprinter Tue, 07 September 2004 05:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The 4A-GE is the heart and soul of a sprinter.

Go for it. I remember someone in these forums wanted a trade for a case of VB for his 4A-C hahaha Smile

Good luck.
I run a 86kw in mine and it's just lovely.

-Jay
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RT104GT
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Re: Is it worth getting a 4A GE engine for my sprinter Tue, 07 September 2004 05:54 Go to previous message
Hi Guys thanks for all the info and links. My question which is elsewhere is converting a 4AC carbie front wheel drive engine to an EFI 4AGE. What will I need??? Engine? Yes, EFI and computer? Yes Wiring Loom? Yes. Is that all? I did a 3TGTE into a T18 in 1985 and it was easy. As long as I get the wiring loom and airflow meter and engine computer the rest should be easy unless Toyota use quaint thinks like O2 sensor in exhaust pipe or an EGT in the catylitic convertor. Speaking of that is the catylitic converter in the AE82 up to the 86 KW 4AG output/gases and what about compliance and an engineering report? Does the clutch fitted to the 4A fit the 4AG and what size and spline is a new plate to fit the existing 5 speed gearbox in my AE82 circa LATE 1986 and does the air intake tubing and airfilter box from later fit easily in the already crowded AE82 engine bay. Are there any links showing these conversions?? thanks in advance..

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