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 The inevitable conversion and all of lifes mysteries
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Thu, 02 September 2004 01:57
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Friends, Members of the global village, and comrades,
Most of you guys don't know me, nor would you know too much
about my car, but your help and answers to my previous
threads have been invaluable and hence I come to you all again
ignorance in hand, and a conversion on my mind.
At the moment I'm running the stock 4AG, with hurricane extractors running through a highflow cat etc etc, This I told my girlfriend would be sufficient in terms of engine mods, as I allways planned on this car running my sound gear, which is aimed directly at sound quality. However, as fate would have it, I blew the head gasket on the weekend, which means I can now proclaim my intention for an engine conversion without fear of retribution.
After pulling the appropriate strings I've got between $9 500 - $10 000 to spend on the conversion, I then spent the majority of yesterday driving around some relatively well known workshops, and some that aren't. I won't include the name of the workshops in light of the forum rules, but the following is what I was quoted:
Workshop 1 - Speacialises in SR20DET, and RB26 Conversions, I was in the area so I thought I'd pop in and ask them for a quote, the following is what they spewed forth:
AE111 Halfcut with 6 Speed transmission Converision
Price - $8000
Rebuild the Blacktop 20 valve with strengthened interenals and Turbo Charge it - $8000
Total Cost:$16 000 for a 20 valve turbo conversion.
Workshop 2 - Known as the place to go, in terms of Engine convos to Toyota's:
4AGZE Bottom End
S15 Ballbearing Turbo
5 Speed and LSD
Heavy Duty Clutch
Microteck LT8 Computer
Drive in Drive away Total Cost - $12 000 - 1 Month off the road
Workshop 3 - Small workshop but have a great reputation with engine swaps which include mainly Honda motors.
All of the above listed by Workshop 2
Total Cost: $10,500 - 2 Months off the road
Workshop 4 - A mate of mine, who owned a performance workshop, and is an absolute whiz with 20 valve Turbos
20 Valve Head
4AGZE Bottom End
T28
Aftermarket ECU
Total Cost: $10 000 2 months off the road
I have also been quoted $7k - $8k for a 3sgte Conversion from a forum member. In relation to the 3sgte conversion I mentioned in my previous thread, I was quoted an average of $15 000 from some "performance workshops"   
Again lads your opinion on the above prices would be great, as I'm planning on starting the conversion within the next week 
Cheers
Soapy
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: The inevitable conversion and all of lifes mysteries
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Thu, 02 September 2004 03:24
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i would go with the 3s-gte conversion. You will never get the same torque and performance from a meagre 4a that you will from a 3S.
That said though.... If you MUST turbo a 4A, why the hell are you going to waste all the money on making it a 20V head?? All that extra $$$ could be spent developing a UBER POWERHOUSE turbo 16V 4agze.
If you want to talk about how to get a 4A-GTE into your little rolla at a VERY handsome cost compared to the above, send me a PM. There is about a SQUILLION dollars you can save on labour of fitting engines, gearboxes etc, and just getting the engine built around that. You would be surprised how much you can get done compared to what you have been quoted (you will also find those quotes will skyrocket once they get started!).
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sydney
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May 2002
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Re: The inevitable conversion and all of lifes mysteries
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Thu, 02 September 2004 10:50
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Witzl's right
I reckon i could do two of those conversions for under $6K fairly easily, and in half the time.
at the end of the day its buyer beware.. Id start by going back to them and saying you can get it cheaper elsewhere and see hwere you go with that, if you must have someone else touch it that is, otherwise save a crapload and do it yourself. theres more than enough information on the web to easily complete a conversion of this kind.
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Location:
Sydney, The Hills District
Registered:
December 2003
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Re: The inevitable conversion and all of lifes mysteries
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Fri, 03 September 2004 00:33
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Agreed, I had a chat to Mr.Witzl last night, hes agreed to assist me in path for forced induction !!!! So now all I need is 4AGZE Front Cut !!
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