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Registered: June 2003
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7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Thu, 02 September 2004 05:28
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Even though this happened a few weeks ago I thought I'd share it. Yes it was me in my MA61. Waiting at the lights on windsor road where it crosses over the M2. I had a mate in the car with me, and while we're sitting there at the red light there's a rumble and a white lancer pulls up next to us. I look over and straight away start laughing and so does my mate, seeing a riced up lancer in a body kit. But we both stop laughing at almost exactly the same time and say together "...wait a minute"...
<peer down at rims>
<peer through window at interior>
<peer at brakes>
"HOLY SHIT!@"
Brand spanking mitsubishi evo 8
That's when I make eye contact with the guy driving it, with my mouth open, and he's just looking at me smiling and nodding.
This is where my mates starts yelling "Go it!! Fukn nail it!! go it go it!!" and I'm there going "HAHAHAHA - Oh man, I'm gunna get destroyed".
Now I should also point out at this point that he had 4 people in the car - there were two guys in the front and two chicks in the back.
Anyway, the light goes green and we both dump it. Now my car ain't slow. In fact as most people who know it will tell you, it's pretty damn quick - but I wasn't expecting to win. I was not however, expecting to get so hopelessly and utterly slaughtered. By the time I pulled second gear and was starting to stretch it out, he was about 5 car lengths ahead. I shit you not, it was unbelievable.
What surprised me was that I held him by third gear, and stayed that way. I couldn't gain on him at all, but he at least stopped pulling ahead so embarrasingly
I guess when I think about it, it makes sense. 4wd will always get the jump, and 4wd will always be slower at the higher end. I just wasn't expecting the difference to be so noteable.
Needless to say, both me and my mate were laughing our heads off like 10-year-olds at a dick joke, and the other guy was grinning and nodding when we pulled up at the next lights too, but it was all good fun.
Anyway, story time over kiddies.
-J-
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Thu, 02 September 2004 06:36
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nice....
Now you should set your sights to beat him!
Thats what i am aimin for!
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Thu, 02 September 2004 07:01
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Damn, an EVO VIII can only do a mid-13 quarter. To lose by that much, you'd have to be only able manage say, a flat 14? Increase the power! Make sure he doesn't win
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Thu, 02 September 2004 07:04
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hehe good story man, now have you learned your lesson?
up the powah!
btw I think I saw you driving through Epping the other day.. not sure
anyway, so many cops in BH I hate it.. and always get scared when I have a race off the lights.. it seems particularly that stretch of windsor road always seems to have at least one
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Registered: June 2003
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I supported Toymods
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Thu, 02 September 2004 07:56
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yeah but chewing up tyres is the funnest bit, is it not!
Thats why god invented retreads!
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Location: sunny coast, qld
Registered: October 2002
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Thu, 02 September 2004 11:46
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MR 1GGTE wrote on Thu, 02 September 2004 17:56 | yeah but chewing up tyres is the funnest bit, is it not!
Thats why god invented retreads!
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please tell me you are joking!!!
retreads are the devil.
Nice story Joorsh! Can't wait until I get my chance to race an EVO of any sort!
Your car would definitely be no slouch!
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I supported Toymods
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Registered: July 2004
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Thu, 02 September 2004 12:01
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Chris Davey wrote on Thu, 02 September 2004 21:16 |
MR 1GGTE wrote on Thu, 02 September 2004 17:56 | yeah but chewing up tyres is the funnest bit, is it not!
Thats why god invented retreads!
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please tell me you are joking!!!
retreads are the devil.
Nice story Joorsh! Can't wait until I get my chance to race an EVO of any sort!
Your car would definitely be no slouch!
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Retreads = cheap and crappy and they go boom good, what more could you want from a tyre that is used specifically for burnouts!
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Thu, 02 September 2004 12:21
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joorsh wrote on Thu, 02 September 2004 21:37 |
Quote: | what more could you want from a tyre that is used specifically for burnouts!
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Something that isn't going to take half your wheel flare with it when it goes!!
-J-
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That is true, forgot the rear bumpers dont come off quite as easy on MA61's as they do on VK commies, that could be a problem then
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: July 2002
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Sat, 04 September 2004 00:58
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its basically impossible for anyone to beat an evo off the line.. they are griptastic
im guessing you didnt fully launch it though(auto or man?)
if manual, do you find your 1st and second gears are sorta useless(like its hard to get the most speed out of them without spinning wheels... hard to balance between the 2)
good try man.. but up the power
what is done to your engine over stock?
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Mon, 06 September 2004 01:36
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It's a manual, and I was trying pretty damn hard! My tires are pathetic though, so it really limits my off-the-line traction.
And yes, 1st and 2nd gear have to be heavily moderated to stop wheelspin.
I think I'll go for better tyres before I go for more power - I'm pretty happy with the power it has. It's pretty much a stock 7M, with some minor headwork. Runs 9psi.
-J-
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Location: Potts Point, Sydney
Registered: October 2003
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Mon, 06 September 2004 01:55
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What are some good tyres for good grip in the wet and dry conditions? Coz i can't stop getting wheelspins on brand new bridgestones
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Mon, 06 September 2004 01:56
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Hancook K104's are fantastic value for money, but they don't have a huge range of sizes.
-J-
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Mon, 06 September 2004 02:00
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Bridgestone Potenza GIII's are a really nice tyre if they come in your size. Getting my Potenza RE711's for the RA60 was going from night to day, and a few people will attest to the fact that although it has no power, it sticks to the road with a crazy amount of grip for 205's.
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Mon, 06 September 2004 02:12
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No shit, toyo proxes have proven fantastic on my previous vehicles and they will be going on my soarer when these tyres kark it...
They spin when you want them too and grip when you want to..
Of course they arent the greatest tyre in the world but at 165 a tyre for 16's they are pretty damn decent...
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: July 2002
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Mon, 06 September 2004 04:17
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ive got dunlop fm901's on my car.. sticky as all hell around corners.. but on 17's and with around 220ish rwkw(in shootout mode) i can spin 1st-4th
no ammount of good tyre is going to help you
about the best thing u can do is get some wide baggy 15 inches with softer suspension and good rubber..
id personally rather keep cornering ability
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Location: Perth
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Mon, 06 September 2004 04:20
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You just need some bigger tyres Johal Name one factory car with that much power that gets by with 225's
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: July 2002
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Mon, 06 September 2004 04:42
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justcallmefrank wrote on Mon, 06 September 2004 14:20 | You just need some bigger tyres Johal Name one factory car with that much power that gets by with 225's
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235's thank you
245's will be going on next.. thats the max that i will put on 7 inch wide rims..
if there was any chance of getting the rims widenned i would.. and run like 265's..
but they still will be smoked up
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Mon, 06 September 2004 05:23
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MR 1GGTE wrote on Mon, 06 September 2004 12:12 | No shit, toyo proxes have proven fantastic on my previous vehicles and they will be going on my soarer when these tyres kark it...
They spin when you want them too and grip when you want to..
Of course they arent the greatest tyre in the world but at 165 a tyre for 16's they are pretty damn decent...
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toyos are fantastic tyres! Shame for the 245s on my ma70 they were $270 each!
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: July 2002
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Mon, 06 September 2004 05:34
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V8_MA61 wrote on Mon, 06 September 2004 15:21 |
joorsh wrote on Mon, 06 September 2004 11:36 | It's a manual, and I was trying pretty damn hard! My tires are pathetic though, so it really limits my off-the-line traction.
And yes, 1st and 2nd gear have to be heavily moderated to stop wheelspin.
I think I'll go for better tyres before I go for more power - I'm pretty happy with the power it has. It's pretty much a stock 7M, with some minor headwork. Runs 9psi.
-J-
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Imagine that baby on 15 PSI...itd be quite a match for the gayZ's! What headwork have you done mate? Mild Porting?
Id love mine to turn a GTE, but one toy is all i can afford at the moment...i gotta save for a house deposit..cant live at home all my life
Maybe if i win lottery ill do it...or in another 10 years when im remotely financial (hopefully )
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imagine then u put a 1gayz as you call it off 15 psi and flog the shit out of the 7m again
lol
as for cost of tyres.. my fm901's were 270 each for all four corners, 235/45/17's... and that was with a deal.. now they are replaced by a newer model
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Mon, 06 September 2004 05:49
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$270 a tyre
You got ripped brother, the most i saw them for when i shopped around was $220!
V8_MA61, you are currently the king of extreme conversions in my book, so id like to see you go different again by building a 7MGZE, do you reckon i could be possilbe or effective?
Id do it but i dont like 7M's
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Location: Brisbane
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Mon, 06 September 2004 06:07
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V8_MA61 wrote on Mon, 06 September 2004 15:40 | yeah a 1gayZ pulled 182rwkw with 3" exhaust and 15psi on the weekend.
Am interested to see what you get when you up the boost some more joorsh Nice neat little cooler install you have there too, it should work very nicely!
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yah and my car in same conditions(gear and such in shootout mode) made 200rwkw with 2.5 inch exhaust. .11 psi and 600x300x76 cooler
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Mon, 06 September 2004 12:30
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I've been dyno'd at over 180rwkw at 9psi, but I'm reluctant to crank it over past that because I still have fuel cut at 11 psi or so. But yes, it would be VERY interesting to see what 15 psi would do. Prolly wouldn't be too good for the poor old 7M longterm though. fuel cut is at 11 psi for a reason methinks
-J-
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Mon, 06 September 2004 14:08
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V8_MA61 wrote on Mon, 06 September 2004 22:48 |
joorsh wrote on Mon, 06 September 2004 22:30 | I've been dyno'd at over 180rwkw at 9psi, but I'm reluctant to crank it over past that because I still have fuel cut at 11 psi or so. But yes, it would be VERY interesting to see what 15 psi would do. Prolly wouldn't be too good for the poor old 7M longterm though. fuel cut is at 11 psi for a reason methinks
-J-
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teh reason is economy (seriously..i dunno) but 15 PSI wont hurt a 7m...ive seen one crank 500hp before breaking a stock internal. i think that was 2* psi.
Johal that doesnt make sense. He has more boost, a bigger, stainless, mandrel by the look of it exhaust, but a bit smaller cooler - yet you make more power? got me fucked!
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yep and done in the equivalent gear(for auto)
might be his afr being way to rich.. on full power.. mine were 12:1 so basically perfect..
the cooler helps a lot too.. plus mine has manual which accounts for less losses and such.
i dunno if my small moving parts(such as tailshaft and smaller diff) would gain me any power cause of inertia and smaller moving parts.
will be interesting at next dyno day when they go head to head
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 01:39
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Bigger cooler is of no huge benefit without adding more boost to push the air throughh.
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 01:40
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V8_MA61 wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 11:39 | Bigger cooler is of no huge benefit without adding more boost to push the air throughh.
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i was gonna say drag them, but thatd kinda be unfair your car weighing about 350-400kg less!
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 02:09
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V8_MA61 wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 11:39 | Bigger cooler is of no huge benefit without adding more boost to push the air throughh.
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uhh.. yes big cooler is a benefeit actually..
instead of pushing hot turbo air into combustion chamber you push cold air in which in turn compresses air and lets more get in making for more power at same boost level
especially when the stock coolers are so shit
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 02:26
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Jag7799 wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 12:09 |
V8_MA61 wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 11:39 | Bigger cooler is of no huge benefit without adding more boost to push the air throughh.
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uhh.. yes big cooler is a benefeit actually..
instead of pushing hot turbo air into combustion chamber you push cold air in which in turn compresses air and lets more get in making for more power at same boost level
especially when the stock coolers are so shit
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Have you seen the stock jza70 cooler side? its by no means small.
in short a big cooler with small turbos pushing small amounts of boost = LAG.
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 02:38
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V8_MA61 wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 12:26 |
Jag7799 wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 12:09 |
V8_MA61 wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 11:39 | Bigger cooler is of no huge benefit without adding more boost to push the air throughh.
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uhh.. yes big cooler is a benefeit actually..
instead of pushing hot turbo air into combustion chamber you push cold air in which in turn compresses air and lets more get in making for more power at same boost level
especially when the stock coolers are so shit
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Have you seen the stock jza70 cooler side? its by no means small.
in short a big cooler with small turbos pushing small amounts of boost = LAG.
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lol.. did my car have any lag?.. nope..
creates dick all lag
and jza70 cooler is by all means shit and inneficient.... jsut cause its sizeable doesent mean its any good
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Location: Canberra
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 02:48
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beg to differ actually,
the flow rate is pretty good and the tanks are a pretty good size for a stock jobby. and my car lags fuck all even with 15 psi.
my car still has to be retuned for the lower altitude for brisbane as well....
either way, im very happy with the output of my car
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 02:48
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would a JZA70 c00ler be a deceent upgrade for a 1GGTE??
or is it just not worth it?
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 03:16
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MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 12:48 | would a JZA70 c00ler be a deceent upgrade for a 1GGTE??
or is it just not worth it?
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yes
im not saying they are shit
just shit compared to bigger aftermarket coolers
chris: put a cooler like mine on yours and watch ur power jump again
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Location: Canberra
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 04:44
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ill swap ya!
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 05:27
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alwaysRA23 wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 14:44 | ill swap ya!
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save money and get one
sell ra23
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Location: Canberra
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 06:01
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NEVER!!!!!!
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Location: Adelaide, SA
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 06:55
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MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 12:18 | would a JZA70 c00ler be a deceent upgrade for a 1GGTE??
or is it just not worth it?
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does the 1G cooler have outlets on either side, or one side? jza70 is a cross-flow type, outlets on each end.
jza70 cooler is biggish, but is a poor flowing design. For a few dollars more you could put a hybrid intercooler.
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 07:07
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lumpy wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 16:55 |
MR 1GGTE wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 12:18 | would a JZA70 c00ler be a deceent upgrade for a 1GGTE??
or is it just not worth it?
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does the 1G cooler have outlets on either side, or one side? jza70 is a cross-flow type, outlets on each end.
jza70 cooler is biggish, but is a poor flowing design. For a few dollars more you could put a hybrid intercooler.
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1g intercooler is basically a smaller 1j intercooler.. and my intercooler is one from mercury motorsport(like the hybrid ones) and it does awesome work
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 07:15
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if I change the cooler i am not going to drop in a 1JZ cooler as they are small, and the new pipework will make it a pointless addition, a new cooler will be of decent size
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Location: Colac, Victoria
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 08:53
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Ive taken on an evo 7 ( it coulda been a 6 - but it was an evo in sure of this ) and beat it in the old Gt4 ..
for once i got " the perfect launch " in the gt4 - and nailed it onto a bend - expecting to be absolutely slaughtered - but pipped + stretched by about 2 and a bit carlengths
I blame a shit evo driver for the win - not for the fact that my car is " better " because even with the mods i have ( before engine upgrade ) id be hard pipped matching an evo in specs.
WRX's i can play with but im Always cautious of genuine evo's - those things pack an absolute whallop
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 09:00
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Johal that doesnt make sense. He has more boost, a bigger, stainless, mandrel by the look of it exhaust, but a bit smaller cooler - yet you make more power? got me fucked!
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just wondering why you say stainless exhaust? I wouldn't have thought that would make a difference?
Also, I have seen a non turbo beat an Evo 6! I swear this dude is the worst driver EVER! After his Evo 6 he bought an R34 GTR which had a couple of mods and in capable hands would go close to 11's yet he was beaten by a near stock R32 GTS-t! So his evo loss was to be expected really Quite amusing though!
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 07 September 2004 09:11
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Chris Davey wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 19:00 |
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Johal that doesnt make sense. He has more boost, a bigger, stainless, mandrel by the look of it exhaust, but a bit smaller cooler - yet you make more power? got me fucked!
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just wondering why you say stainless exhaust? I wouldn't have thought that would make a difference?
Also, I have seen a non turbo beat an Evo 6! I swear this dude is the worst driver EVER! After his Evo 6 he bought an R34 GTR which had a couple of mods and in capable hands would go close to 11's yet he was beaten by a near stock R32 GTS-t! So his evo loss was to be expected really Quite amusing though!
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should drive an excel instead
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Sat, 13 November 2004 13:56
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NOT AGAIN!!!!
OK, this just happened. Coming down old north with a mate in the car - who actually happened to be the same mate as the first time! ... and what do I see up ahead? A white lancer with familiar looking licence plates. I gave it a bit of a bootful to catch up and sure enough - it's him again! This time however, he's sporting what looks to be a different, bigger exhaust, and a dangerous looking little sticker that says "RUF".
Well he must have seen me coming up behind him, because I hear him downchange and give it a bit of a blip. Now I'm already going at a decent clip because I was catching up - not full noise, but I was "making progress" shall we say. I soon as I heard him blip and downchange I dropped my foot to the floor. There was perhaps 1-2 seconds where I gained on him slightly, and then he's gone. Just gone. Nothing but a small puff of smoke from his exhaust hanging in the air. It's quite possibly the fastest I've ever seen anything move from 50km/hr to... well.. something very very fast. He was pretty much out of sight after the first bend.
Then, just to rub salt in the wound, I see him dissappearing around a 90 degree corner up ahead at what must be two or three times any speed I'd ever consider taking a bend like that.
I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with RUF, but they're a very prestigious tuning house (german I believe) who normally specialise in high-end porsche modifications. Judging from what I have just witnessed, I believe someone has had some very expensive work done on what was already a very fast car.
I want a RUF tuned EVO 8 now
[Updated on: Sat, 13 November 2004 13:58]
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Sat, 13 November 2004 14:09
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damn id love to see this thing in action
you need to start bringing a vid camera with you
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Sat, 13 November 2004 22:00
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LOL dude, even knowing how much potential our 7MA61's have, after being taken for a ride in my mates EVO6, there is no chance I would even consider taking one on. Those things are just animals. They shouldn't even be classified as road cars as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Sat, 13 November 2004 23:31
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Yian wrote on Sun, 14 November 2004 09:00 | LOL dude, even knowing how much potential our 7MA61's have, after being taken for a ride in my mates EVO6, there is no chance I would even consider taking one on. Those things are just animals. They shouldn't even be classified as road cars as far as I'm concerned.
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haha agreed.. I also want an evo 6... I think my car would have a chance with close to stock evo's.. but any major mod and id be cained
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Sat, 13 November 2004 23:35
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Hmm, I know they are pretty fast but I don't think they are THAT fast.
Low to mid 13's is pretty quick though. I would have liked to race one when I had the stock turbos to see how I would go. My only point of reference is that I was dead even with an R32 GTR with "i don't know what mods" when my car had a dead stock 1jz in it with 3" exhaust.
Unfortunately, as there are shit all evos around (actually saw my first evo 8 yesterday) I don't think I will get to race one in the near future
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Sat, 13 November 2004 23:43
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Chris Davey wrote on Sun, 14 November 2004 10:35 | Hmm, I know they are pretty fast but I don't think they are THAT fast.
Low to mid 13's is pretty quick though. I would have liked to race one when I had the stock turbos to see how I would go. My only point of reference is that I was dead even with an R32 GTR with "i don't know what mods" when my car had a dead stock 1jz in it with 3" exhaust.
Unfortunately, as there are shit all evos around (actually saw my first evo 8 yesterday) I don't think I will get to race one in the near future
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especially not with car off the road
Ive never raced a GTR.. but ive fully whallopped a r33 gtst with big cooler and exhaust(and id assume boost)
the thing with evo's is, they have 4wd traction off launch, so a stock one might only do 13.5 but they already are ahead of you off launch.. so if they are modded a bit they can keep the gap
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Sun, 14 November 2004 00:10
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ive claimed an evo7 in my Gt4 - though i can tell you it wasnt because my car is more powerful/faster ..
The only reason i " won " im sure is the guy driving it didnt know how to drive it properly .. otherwise id be spouting " owned by evo " as well . They are supremely quick - kudos to mitsubishi on them . Id definantly have one in my garage
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I supported Toymods
Location: Adelaide
Registered: July 2004
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Registered: June 2003
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Location: Ballarat, Victoria
Registered: March 2003
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Sun, 14 November 2004 02:26
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took a r34 GTR running on 1.5bar for a drive once
that thing shouldn't be a road car, it was horrendous... but fun
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 16 November 2004 07:37
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Joorsh - i may have solved your mystery
Latest edition of hot 4's
Tuning workshop oddly called RUF ( www.ruf.com.au)
they ahve a pic of your EVO in a small blurb in the magazine - shes a tuning house special - not an average evo - no wonder you got owned !
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 16 November 2004 12:56
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Well, I guess that makes me feel a little better
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: 7MGTE MA61 vs Evo 8
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Tue, 16 November 2004 12:56
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I still want one of those though!
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