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tried searching - KE55 --> KE70 parts
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Tue, 14 September 2004 03:41
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anyone know if a KE70 4spd/flywheel/clutch/pressure plate can bolt up to a KE55 engine that was once auto? do i need to change the gearbox x-member for the KE70 unit?
any help please guys, purchase of this car depends on this 
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Re: tried searching - KE55 --> KE70 parts
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Tue, 14 September 2004 04:02
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ke70 will also go but you have to cut the shifter hole back a bit in the tunnel (not hard), and make sure you get the bracket that goes between the g/box crossmember and the g/box. Also some had a coarse spline output shaft, and some are fine spline, you may have to switch yokes.
i found this just now but how do i know the spline differences mentioned - and how do i switch yokes?
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: tried searching - KE55 --> KE70 parts
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Tue, 14 September 2004 04:08
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yes, you also need spigot bearing.
the rear engine mount is different between the two, but you could always swap a KE30/55 extension housing onto the KE70 box, and change the shift rods at the same time.
count the number of splines and measure diameter with a ruler.
you may also need the flex plate, they are sometimes different thicknesses between auto and manual. and also drivers side engien to gearbox thingy, with hole for clutch cable.
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Perth
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Re: tried searching - KE55 --> KE70 parts
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Tue, 14 September 2004 04:32
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what are the shift rods? is it like a toploader? sorry for the daft questions, i've never played with a 3K before.
and the bellhousing seperates from the box...? so i can use the KE70 box on the KE55 bellhousing? or can i use the KE70 bellhousing with the KE70 box? i assume i'd have to use the KE70 b'housing for the hole for the clutch cable.
is it just the mount that's different or the whole gearbox x-member? just for clarification, the "spigot" bearing is the "thrust" bearing for the clutch yeah?
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Re: tried searching - KE55 --> KE70 parts
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Tue, 14 September 2004 07:12
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ne1?
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Somewhere on a dirt bowl ...
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August 2004
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Re: tried searching - KE55 --> KE70 parts
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Tue, 14 September 2004 14:41
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| onejayzed wrote on Tue, 14 September 2004 14:32 |
what are the shift rods? is it like a toploader? sorry for the daft questions, i've never played with a 3K before.
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3k? Both the ke70 and 55 came with the 4k.
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and the bellhousing seperates from the box...? so i can use the KE70 box on the KE55 bellhousing? or can i use the KE70 bellhousing with the KE70 box? i assume i'd have to use the KE70 b'housing for the hole for the clutch cable.
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I'm going to make the assumption that both the 'boxes are manual. The bellhousings are, should be, the same. The extension housing on the 'box thats in the ke70 (thats at the rear of the 'box) is longer. If memory serves. If memory serves right again you should be able to use the ke55 'box. Yes you will have to use that hole for the clutch cable. No two ways about it.
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is it just the mount that's different or the whole gearbox x-member? just for clarification, the "spigot" bearing is the "thrust" bearing for the clutch yeah?
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Now if your swapping from an auto to a manual. This is a little different. You wouldn't be able to swap bellhousings, their different. The "spigot" bearing is what sits in the centre of the flywheel. The input shaft from the 'box needs it for support. The "thrust" bearing is used by the clutch fork. The auto gearbox x-member will have to swapped over for the manual 'box x-member. And i do believe that the output splines will be different between the 2 'boxes. Which will mean that the front yoke on the prop shaft will need to swapped. But i think you'll find that the shafts are of diiferent lenghts. Don't quote me on that do some side-by-side measuring.
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: tried searching - KE55 --> KE70 parts
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Tue, 14 September 2004 23:52
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| onejayzed wrote on Tue, 14 September 2004 14:32 |
what are the shift rods? is it like a toploader? sorry for the daft questions, i've never played with a 3K before.
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shift rods are the rods that are attached to the shift forks. there are three of them in a K series box. i've never played with a toploader 
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and the bellhousing seperates from the box...? so i can use the KE70 box on the KE55 bellhousing? or can i use the KE70 bellhousing with the KE70 box? i assume i'd have to use the KE70 b'housing for the hole for the clutch cable.
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nope. bellhousing is integral with the main case. the only bit that unbolts is the extension housing.
the KE70 has shifter at rear of ext h, whereas KE55 is middle. the 4 speed shift rods are different but the 5 speed shift rods are same. they are both same total length.
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is it just the mount that's different or the whole gearbox x-member? just for clarification, the "spigot" bearing is the "thrust" bearing for the clutch yeah?
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whole cross-member is different, but specifically the way the KE70 box attaches to the cross-member is totally different than KE55. have a look at a wreckers and you'll see what i mean.
ahhh no.. spigot bearing is the bearing in the flywheel for the input shaft.
Cya, Stewart
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Perth
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September 2003
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Re: tried searching - KE55 --> KE70 parts
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Wed, 15 September 2004 00:41
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thanks fellas.
so the corolla is a 4K...as in 1300cc?
so i'll need to unbolt the spigot bearing / flywheel / whole clutch assembly / cable / pedal cluster / gearbox x-member.
now is the difference between the auto tailshaft and the 4spd tailshaft is enough to require a change? or is it only the 4spd / 5spd change that it's required?
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