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EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 04:18
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OK folks, have a look at www.935motorsport.com to get an idea of what's available for our cars outside Oz. I'd like to keep this as simple as possble - what bits do most of you realistically want?
I've got my eye on the rear KYB Gas-Adjustors for &Aus. 108 plus post and packaging.
Lemme know what you want, and how serious you are, and I'll start negotiating with some of the distributors.
I'm also looking at some locals, but they aren't keen to import anything their own wholesalers don't bring in.
Again, this is just an EOI.
cheers,
Justin
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 04:47
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That site doesnt seem to work for me 
I might be interested, but I really need an idea of the price we'd be looking at for both front and back (assuming they make adjustable fronts!). $108 AUD for the rear?
Once I know how much it's gonna be, I can start thinking about buying it 
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 05:48
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I've been looking for externally adjustable rears for a while. If the gas-adjust are a performance shock, then count me in (need to look them up, but from memory I thought they didn't offer them for IRS rears)
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 08:38
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im interested in front and rear of something.
anything good really!
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Sat, 18 September 2004 03:55
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I know this is for MK2 suspension, but Im REALLY interested in getting front and rear shocks for my MX73 Cressy, any idea if they would fit? And the site didnt work for me either :-S
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Sat, 18 September 2004 04:33
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In a toyotacressida.com thread a guy said that the US MX73 shocks are interchangable with Mk2 Celica/Supra ones. JHust not sure if the AUS ones are or not?
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 05:55
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Justin... you know my needs for strutbars, shocks etc...
I'll be keeping an eye on this post! 
Cheers
Damo
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 07:39
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It seems that those KYBs are non-adjustable, and the AGX ones are not available for the IRS rear of xA6xs.
However, I was looking around the celicasupra forums yesterday and IIRC the 935performance guy was looking into what other shokcs were compatible. I think there is a porshe one that fits, as well as a camaro/mustang or something like that. Anyway, if somethign compatible was found... externally adjustable... I think they'd sell like hotcakes.
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 08:57
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Hmmm ... scratches head .... I just remembered why I swore I'd never organise another GB.  Oh, the humanity! 
OK, could we have a show of hands (and hold up one to four fingers to represent comitment) for interest in:
Adco sway-bar
Front KYB Gas-Adjust
Rear KYB Gas-Adjust
A diferent suspension bit on:
http://935motorsports.com/catalog/index.php?cPath= 79_15_22
thanks,
Justin
PS: So many cheap and good springs avail lovally, that I haven't included them for GB. OK?
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 22:07
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I MAY be intereasted in the sway bar depending on what the cost is, having completed everything else in the suspension department (Koni Yellows)
Cheers
Michael B
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 03:42
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Also interested in the swaybar depending on price and specs, ie how much stiffer is it than stock? And are we talking front, rear or both?
I'd be interested in shocks if you were shooting for Konis. I have KYB's at the moment and I'm less than impressed with them.
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 04:45
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I believe the US market KYBs may be different from the AUS ones... what are yours called, Norbie?
I've been looking around the celicasupra forums, and some people seem to rate the KYB Gas-adjusts over the tokico HPs.
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 06:34
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| Stefan wrote on Mon, 20 September 2004 12:45 |
I've been looking around the celicasupra forums, and some people seem to rate the KYB Gas-adjusts over the tokico HPs.
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While that is a definite possibility, I generally take everything the Yank's on that forum say with a pinch of salt unless you know otherwise. The Tokico's kick ass, but we all know you must have some knobs to fiddle with
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 06:43
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Mon, 20 September 2004 16:34 |
| Stefan wrote on Mon, 20 September 2004 12:45 |
I've been looking around the celicasupra forums, and some people seem to rate the KYB Gas-adjusts over the tokico HPs.
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While that is a definite possibility, I generally take everything the Yank's on that forum say with a pinch of salt unless you know otherwise. The Tokico's kick ass, but we all know you must have some knobs to fiddle with
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Fair enough about the pinch of salt, but the "gas-adjusts" are non adjustable IIRC. Also, I seem to remember someone saying 'overworked' HPs and saying the gas-adjusts were much better... which seems imply not stiff enough, but could also just mean they were worn out & the gas-adjusts are newer. And of course, it depends what springs they are run with... so what is my point? I don't know That being able to play with settings (bump AND rebound) is cool, I guess.
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 06:46
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If someone is as mean to his car as a run with Glens car through the National Park then there must be a defective component, cos that suspension got HAMMERED  Brakes and tyres weren't too happy about it though, but the speed we were going through there was nuts.
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 07:24
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Thanks, folks.
I, like others, am looking at either the KYB Gas-Adjusters or Tokico HP's. I'd rather we collectively figure which is better and then individually chose between getting 2 or 4. Clear as mud? Basically, I'm not trying to go into the suspension business - I just want to get a few bits that aren't available through Australian retailers. And given half my family lives in the US (also Celica-Supra Retail Heaven), I won't have too much difficulty organising a simple group purchase.
I have checked with several Perth suspension shops, who all say that these two models are not available from local distributors. Hence, the GB.
Norbie: Which Koni's are you refering to? Are they available (or orderable) in Oz? If not, do you know of an OS distributor? More info, please. 
CS.com has LOTS of info on the Adco sway bar - including a step-by-step installation write-up. It looks good. Certainly better than any local alternative (eg Whiteline's ill-fitting bar). I'm assuming that most of us would just want the front bar, for starters, eh?
I know we're heading for tautological mind-f*cks, but I can't really make a guestimate at total costs (delivered to your door), without knowing what everyone wants, how many people want and who we'd be buying from over there. So, keep the discussion going while I look into some purchase and shipping options. Then I'll start narrowing the parameters.
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 10:39
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Tokico HP blues!! me me me!! 
Which ever way works out cheaper.. group buy or local importer.. I'll be up for them! When you have a guestimate.. let me know.
Thats about all I want for now to do my basic suspension upgrade.
Cheers Justin!!
Damo
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 12:43
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Did i mention HP's rock ?
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 12:55
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| Celia-Sue wrote on Mon, 20 September 2004 17:24 |
I'd rather we collectively figure which is better and then individually chose between getting 2 or 4....
...Basically, I'm not trying to go into the suspension business - I just want to get a few bits that aren't available through Australian retailers...
...AI know we're heading for tautological mind-f*cks, but I can't really make a guestimate at total costs (delivered to your door), without knowing what everyone wants, how many people want and who we'd be buying from over there. So, keep the discussion going while I look into some purchase and shipping options. Then I'll start narrowing the parameters.
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All very, very fair enough, and thanks.
I'll try to find as much info as I can and post it on the list. I hear new rear swim arm bushes make quite a difference, perhaps a GB on some poly ones could be an option... 
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Tue, 21 September 2004 04:28
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Adco Sway-Bar:
http://www.celicasupra.com/Addco/Addco.htm
However, there are some doubts about availability off the shelf. Will keep looking and talking ....
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Wed, 22 September 2004 09:31
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Hey Sue....
My recent aquisition requires new shocks and springs all round.....lookin at also getting sway-bars/strut braces....lemme know pricing....have looked around perth and not much change from $1100.....OUCH!
classic garage has koni adjustables for $92US/pair.....
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Wed, 22 September 2004 23:15
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I defnately want to get those Tokico HP Fullset for my MX73
Would I need the poly shock bushings upper /lower? :-S
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Thu, 23 September 2004 01:09
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Judging my Glen's car, bracing the chassis is going to have a big effect on the MA61. I've never been in a car that handled as well as Glen's, but with liveable firmness.
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Thu, 23 September 2004 02:19
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 23 September 2004 11:09 |
Judging my Glen's car, bracing the chassis is going to have a big effect on the MA61. I've never been in a car that handled as well as Glen's, but with liveable firmness.
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Is that in relation to Draven's post, or a separate comment? Bracing chassis & swaybar are different things... which you of course know... so does that mean Glen's car has a front & rear braces?
I can personally say that a front brace - even a 2-point one - makes a big difference. Intend to make a rear one, like SupraWes's you can group buy on celicasupra.com. Looks like you could make one without welding - suitible length of suitable tubing, crush each end, drill appropriate holes, paint, use appropriate hardware.
BTW CelicaSue, Put me down as Very Interested in at least a rear pair of shocks - the QA1 ones most likely. If we could get a deal on a poly bushing kit....
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Thu, 23 September 2004 02:44
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It's in relation to Draven's post, I know they are different things, BUT, Glen was always going on about how he wanted to get new swaybars for his car...until he got everything else.
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Thu, 23 September 2004 02:54
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 23 September 2004 12:44 |
It's in relation to Draven's post, I know they are different things, BUT, Glen was always going on about how he wanted to get new swaybars for his car...until he got everything else.
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Fair enough. I belong to that school for thought, too - get springs and dampers sorted first, THEN play with swaybars (unless you for some reason want to retain soft springs/dampers, and then use sways to control body roll - but in my limted suspension knowledge, I can't forsee that for a street car)
Fitting a stiffer front sway will makwe the car understeer a lot more; fitting a rear one after that to comensate MAY lead to traction issues etc.
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Thu, 23 September 2004 03:00
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Ask the person pulling out of the carpark around the corner from Glens if he needs any more oversteer
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Thu, 23 September 2004 08:27
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 23 September 2004 13:00 |
Ask the person pulling out of the carpark around the corner from Glens if he needs any more oversteer
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Negative.
I have installed the 'Suprawes' rear strut brace and it makes a HUGE difference to the handling of the supra.
The car sat fairly flat before, but the rear strut brace flatens and stiffens the rear out the corner, minimising body roll and giving alot more positive driving feedback.
all i have done is springs, shocks, bushes and rear strut bar.
Strut braces yes, but there isnt a need for sway bars on a road car, if the rest of your suspension is sorted! (except for the celicas -> just upgrade to MA61 bars)
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Thu, 23 September 2004 12:42
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Interesting.
I didn't know the rear bar weas different, or that the front bar was compatible. Are they?
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Thu, 23 September 2004 12:45
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| BlackSupra wrote on Thu, 23 September 2004 18:27 |
| justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 23 September 2004 13:00 |
Ask the person pulling out of the carpark around the corner from Glens if he needs any more oversteer
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Negative.
I have installed the 'Suprawes' rear strut brace and it makes a HUGE difference to the handling of the supra.
The car sat fairly flat before, but the rear strut brace flatens and stiffens the rear out the corner, minimising body roll and giving alot more positive driving feedback.
all i have done is springs, shocks, bushes and rear strut bar.
Strut braces yes, but there isnt a need for sway bars on a road car, if the rest of your suspension is sorted! (except for the celicas -> just upgrade to MA61 bars)
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where did you purchase the said strut bar?
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Thu, 23 September 2004 13:04
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Look under Group Buys on the celicasupra forum, they're from a guy called SupraWes who used to be on the OCC.
I'm inclined to make myself one, not because there is anything wrong with these but just because it seems silly to ship when you can make one here... but if someone wants to organise a group buy....
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Sun, 26 September 2004 04:51
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Stefan,
Funny you should say that ...
I'm starting to think that a group-buy on shocks & springs will be too complex - and won't save all that much, once we add in postage within Australia.
So, I also looked at the stuff none of us have, that we are all liley to want. Something like the Adco swaybar. Difficulty with that is the company is currently in a 3-4 month lag behind orders - and prices, landed in Perth, would still be closing in on the $AUD400 mark!
So, I'm now thinking that maybe I'll see about getting a local version of the LJM strut-bar made-up (also saving on import and shipping costs).
I'm going to talk to a few machinists and the LJM folks to look into viability. Hopefully, we could get something that will work with most engine combo's, of good quality and costing in the realms of $AUD150ish.
If I have some success, I'll put info onto a seperate post.
In the mean-time, I'm ordering rear Kings'(std) springs (locally) and KYB G-A's (US) for my car. Sorry if I've dashed anyone's dreams/hopes, by not proceeding with the general suspension group buy.
- Justin
Once the new shocks arrive, I'll have an 'as new' set of rear KYB GR-2's - if anyone is interested. However, I couldn't really recomend them except on ready availability in Oz., price ($140 new), and a mild upgrade on worn stockers.
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Re: EOI: Mk2 Supra suspension group buy?
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Sun, 26 September 2004 07:53
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| Celia-Sue wrote on Sun, 26 September 2004 14:51 |
Stefan,
Funny you should say that ...
I'm starting to think that a group-buy on shocks & springs will be too complex - and won't save all that much, once we add in postage within Australia.
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Well... I was refering to SupraWes' rear stut bar. Front strut bar is different between celica & supra, and I already have one anyway, so you'll have to count me out of that particular GB..
But I get your point.
Are you sure though? I PMed SlimFastSupra and he said he could get us a pretty good deal on the KYB G-A's. If there was enough interest in those... postage for a pair of shocks or strut inserts within Australia is only around $20-25 AUD.
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