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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 10:16
 
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thanks to Mr1G for hosting 
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Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 10:27
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im downloading, ill tell ya what i think 
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 10:36
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Nice choice of music  Hell, if my business was making any money, I'd probably sponsor ya 
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 10:40
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cheers, i should have put in my two crashes,. at oran and calder
then it would suit smacking my bitch up and all
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 10:41
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Its interesting to watch the difference between the CA18 and the 4AGE, the 4AGE you seem to be coming into the corners smoking, the CA18 on a couple of corners just torches the rears.
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 10:49
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hehe the beauty of power!!, i havwent lost my insane entry speeds by fitting a turbo engine now. Dispite what crap people sprout on initial D
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I supported Toymods
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Perth, WA
Registered:
May 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 11:15
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downloading now
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 11:45
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Simon!
Fantastic promo.. no fluff, fun to watch, clear and straight to the pont while being enjoyable
heck.. and it sure makes your car look tempting for advertising! no question you will find some sponsorship mate good luck with it
If I was in a relevant field I would sponsor ya
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 12:46
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Downloading as well ... can't wait to watch it.
Ooer ... does this mean I have to get with Shano now and produce a similar video for him as well, innit? 
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 14:33
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i got a corrupted video file error just before the ca18det footage
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Perth, WA
Registered:
May 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 20:19
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yep i got the same error
so far so good tho
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Location:
Adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 21:02
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error towards the quarter end..
good good..
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Fri, 17 September 2004 23:11
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| Satoshi wrote on Sat, 18 September 2004 07:02 |
error towards the quarter end..
good good..
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Bah! Same thing ... no sponsorship for you now!
Nice vid ... but it didn't say that Simon had an attitude problem.
Will pass on to Shano - quite a good watch.
Perhaps zip the vid file to prevent any corruption?
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South Australia
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sat, 18 September 2004 00:45
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I'm d/l this on a dial-up so it better be worth it...probably take all day
*mutter mutter*
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Location:
Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sat, 18 September 2004 00:59
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downloading now
better be good
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Location:
Epping, Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sat, 18 September 2004 01:03
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yeah I got that error too! crashed the player... .just thought it might have been me...
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Location:
Melbourne
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January 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sat, 18 September 2004 01:05
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Error at the end to  , sorry i don't know how to contact you for sponsorship
Have you posted this on other sites Simon
The one handed drifto is very impressive , i haven't seen that done before
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Banned user
Location:
ADELAIDE - The Drift City
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sat, 18 September 2004 02:57
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hmmm interesting. maybe its the codecs used? Has everyone nupdated their Dvix codecs?
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Location:
Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sat, 18 September 2004 03:41
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i got an error too at like 5:46 or something, from memory
other than that, looking good. i dont really know much about drifting, but that looks cool
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Location:
Melbourne
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March 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sat, 18 September 2004 03:42
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the problem is that its a wmv file which uses its own codec i beleive. should have been an avi file and u wouldnt get this error
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Perth, WA
Registered:
May 2003
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Location:
Bayside Melbourne.
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May 2003
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Location:
Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sat, 18 September 2004 07:01
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Nice vid simon - nice skills.
I get the same error part way through too - and am using all the latest codecs (for EVERYTHING you could imagine) no drama for me - I'll convert it to something else so I can see the last part
*once I get my business up and running properlly - as in have cash flow rather than a bloody negative number..I'll give you a PM for some sponsorship info.*
*impressed*
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Location:
Sydney/Wollongong
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October 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sat, 18 September 2004 09:28
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A program i've found which can fix most corrupted WMV files is ASF Tools. Best of all it's free...
http://www.geocities.com/myasftools/
Try the basic repair first, usually sorts out most problems...
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
Registered:
October 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sat, 18 September 2004 09:42
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i cant even download the thing, dead link for me.
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Location:
Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sat, 18 September 2004 09:49
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| Matt-AE86 wrote on Sat, 18 September 2004 19:42 |
i cant even download the thing, dead link for me.
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I concur.
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sat, 18 September 2004 10:05
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try now. works for me
right click and save as
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Location:
The Eastwood MASSIVE !
Registered:
May 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 02:12
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Negative on the download.
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Location:
Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 08:03
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awesome work.. but it fucks up as everyone sais
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 09:47
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ah well. i dunno what it is causing the prob then
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
Registered:
August 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 10:28
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i SPOSE its ok
hehehe
i rikey!
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 10:48
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so your sponsoring then garth
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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August 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 11:02
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heh
soon matey soon.
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 11:05
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lol hurry up sonny
dont make me kick your sorry arse at pool again
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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August 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 11:07
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| Simon-AE86 wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 21:05 |
lol hurry up sonny
dont make me kick your sorry arse at pool again
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HAH
u LOSE!
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 11:11
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not so says he who's ball spends more time on the ground then on the table
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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August 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 11:14
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| Simon-AE86 wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 21:11 |
not so says he who's ball spends more time on the ground then on the table
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THAT WAS YOU! hah
anyhow i beat u all at inital d arcade stage
heh
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 11:16
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by 1/8th of a second
and you admitted you were fully l337 at inital D where as ive never played the game before
BAM!
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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August 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 11:17
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| Simon-AE86 wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 21:16 |
by 1/8th of a second
and you admitted you were fully l337 at inital D where as ive never played the game before
BAM!
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hahaha
1/8th
dont you mean 18
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Location:
Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 11:18
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initial D is a great game for close racing.. but at 2 bucks a game at arcades and my place of schooling being right next to an arcade.. i had to give up
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 11:19
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lock in's are your friend
unless your locked in with garth
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
Registered:
August 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 11:22
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| Jag7799 wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 21:18 |
initial D is a great game for close racing.. but at 2 bucks a game at arcades and my place of schooling being right next to an arcade.. i had to give up
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i hope u dont mean qantm.
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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August 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 11:22
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| Simon-AE86 wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 21:19 |
lock in's are your friend
unless your locked in with garth
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true dat
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I supported Toymods
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Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 17:33
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Simon,
I have filmed, edited and produced quite a few very successful promo and sponsor videos for lots of different sports from including rallying, Circuit, Australian Safari Rally and Go Karting, as well as personal promotional videos for people applying for major international sales positions, product launches and TV commercials and the like, so If I may offer you some constructive comments
(Apologies if what I say happens after the video crashes)
This is a good video compilation display of your skills and how much fun it is, but it does nothing to say to the prospective sponsor - "what's in it for me".
As a prospective sponsor, there are lots of things I want (NEED) to know....
1. How much is it going to cost me ??
2. What benefit will I get either personally, or via my business
3. How can this DIRECTLY help increase my business.
4. Who is this guy driving the car, what does he look like, is he marketable OUTSIDE the car.
You also need to be able to provide facts and figures - stuff like how many of these events there are every year, how many spectators and what are their demographics. why are YOU and YOUR CAR more marketable than the others that you compete against. What type of media coverage can you expect to provide them with - from press releases to tv /video interviews etc..
The video needs a voice over, preferably yours or if you are camera/voice over shy someone that has the confidence to give the video credibility. Having lots of text on the screen makes people skip things or fast forward until the action happens. Use a solid voice over that introduces YOU and your sport and what you are doing that makes you stand out.
Regarding the vision.
I know it's not always easy to get people that can hold a camera steady and are not "zoom happy" - but seriosuly, loose the footage that looks very amature - it does not help to promote the sport as professional. Try and chase up some footage from the events filmed by the professionals and see if you can use that. Or invest in a good tripod and someone really smooth with the camera that enhances the action.
Voice overs explaining how the competition is won or lost, what the judges look for etc are all great to include. Also, lots of crowd pictures - I noticed in one section there were thousands of people spectating - this is who will be seeing the signs on the car - so make sure the sponsors are aware they are there, give average numbers and ages, demographics etc.
Whilst it would be great to get Car product companies to sponsor you, and having Toyota, Bridgestone, TRD and Mobil on the side of the car would be cool - think outside the square at the age group and buying potential on those that attend these events - Look at clothing labels or stores that target this market, sports drinks, soft drinks, fast food outlets etc -
lots more I could add, but it's 3.30am...
Bed time for me.....
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Location:
Newcastle
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August 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 18:15
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Dont suppose someone has some still pics of the car, I think it looks real sweet with the decal etc.
Just curious, what made you opt for the CA18 over the SR20 when going outside the Toyota square?
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Adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Sun, 19 September 2004 18:35
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| Southo wrote on Mon, 20 September 2004 03:03 |
Simon,
I have filmed, edited and produced quite a few very successful promo and sponsor videos for lots of different sports from including rallying, Circuit, Australian Safari Rally and Go Karting, as well as personal promotional videos for people applying for major international sales positions, product launches and TV commercials and the like, so If I may offer you some constructive comments
(Apologies if what I say happens after the video crashes)
This is a good video compilation display of your skills and how much fun it is, but it does nothing to say to the prospective sponsor - "what's in it for me".
As a prospective sponsor, there are lots of things I want (NEED) to know....
1. How much is it going to cost me ??
2. What benefit will I get either personally, or via my business
3. How can this DIRECTLY help increase my business.
4. Who is this guy driving the car, what does he look like, is he marketable OUTSIDE the car.
You also need to be able to provide facts and figures - stuff like how many of these events there are every year, how many spectators and what are their demographics. why are YOU and YOUR CAR more marketable than the others that you compete against. What type of media coverage can you expect to provide them with - from press releases to tv /video interviews etc..
The video needs a voice over, preferably yours or if you are camera/voice over shy someone that has the confidence to give the video credibility. Having lots of text on the screen makes people skip things or fast forward until the action happens. Use a solid voice over that introduces YOU and your sport and what you are doing that makes you stand out.
Regarding the vision.
I know it's not always easy to get people that can hold a camera steady and are not "zoom happy" - but seriosuly, loose the footage that looks very amature - it does not help to promote the sport as professional. Try and chase up some footage from the events filmed by the professionals and see if you can use that. Or invest in a good tripod and someone really smooth with the camera that enhances the action.
Voice overs explaining how the competition is won or lost, what the judges look for etc are all great to include. Also, lots of crowd pictures - I noticed in one section there were thousands of people spectating - this is who will be seeing the signs on the car - so make sure the sponsors are aware they are there, give average numbers and ages, demographics etc.
Whilst it would be great to get Car product companies to sponsor you, and having Toyota, Bridgestone, TRD and Mobil on the side of the car would be cool - think outside the square at the age group and buying potential on those that attend these events - Look at clothing labels or stores that target this market, sports drinks, soft drinks, fast food outlets etc -
lots more I could add, but it's 3.30am...
Bed time for me.....
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wow...good tips, u really made me think outside the square.. good karma for u..
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 00:44
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jason, long time no chat, Thats the sort of feedback i was after. This was our first attempt at something like this and i really had no clue when it came to what i should be putting in the video and so forth.
a second attempt might be called for
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 00:55
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| Simon-AE86 wrote on Mon, 20 September 2004 10:44 |
jason, long time no chat, Thats the sort of feedback i was after. This was our first attempt at something like this and i really had no clue when it came to what i should be putting in the video and so forth.
a second attempt might be called for
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also.. if you do decide to have text on screen try make it more professional
things like transitions, you can do all this with adobe premeiere.. but they look cheap
there is a program called discreet combustion, i use it for my 3d stuff.. its an after effects program
so u can make all sorts of awesome text effects aswell
like you could say make the video footage fade to black.. as that happens a big fussy writing comes from 0 visibility to full and then the fuzz fades away to normal text.. and then it fades out at the same time as the new footage fades in.
program takes a bit to learn.. but a few tuts will have a more professional look
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I supported Toymods
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Sutho/Hills NSW
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September 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 00:56
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not bad but you will find Kristians name is with a K not CH
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 00:59
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no its CH, this is Christian at JMS.
Jag: thanks for that tip, was the text hard to read? What about the screens where i had text only (right at start) was that ok?
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I supported Toymods
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Sutho/Hills NSW
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September 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 01:04
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my bad 
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 01:10
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| Simon-AE86 wrote on Mon, 20 September 2004 10:59 |
no its CH, this is Christian at JMS.
Jag: thanks for that tip, was the text hard to read? What about the screens where i had text only (right at start) was that ok?
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its not that it was hard to read or anything
just unprofessional
like behind text id either use a sorta faded out pic..
black(i like best)
or have various pics on 1 side(or a montage,to break up footage aswell) and the text on the other(or top bottom/whatever)
the text at the start is fine.. but could do with some sort of voice over.. and a pic of you...
also(this might be bad suggestion) but after all ur pics of ur car.. have the camera looking at nothing and the car just come out of no-where and the rear left 1/4 slide RIGHT infront of the camera and continue for a little bit , do you understand what i mean? . and then with rest of footage.
Also depends on how much u trust urself and or someone trusts you.
could also do this with camera on slight zoom on tripod and jsut do it till you get it right.. and then crop the picture and size it so it looks that way
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 01:11
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sounds like a plan
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 01:30
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Damn - I spent all that time d/l that thing only to get the same error  Maybe I'll try that ASF tools thing.
Anyway - yeah I definitely agree with everything southo said - you have to think of what the sponsors want/need to know! Next time there's a drift event on I'll try to get some good footage for you (I have a tripod and fair to decent camera skills) that looks more 'pro' even though I, too, am an amateur.
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 01:45
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Grr - that didn't work either, now it goes for 4:51 so I must be missing a minute of it or something.
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Adelaide
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February 2004
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 04:18
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great stuff i really like the bit at the start(bout 1:35 in) where it has a head on of you coming down the main strait at Mallala and the car just starts stepping out without turning the corner even an inch  (i get to about 4:50 before it stops), but to be honest it looks like a cool drift montage, rather than a publicity movie. i think the points said before by Jag7799 are really good, perhaps some closer footage of the people in the croud with a "this is the demographic that your advertising will reach" kind of thing could be usefull.
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 04:20
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yeah thats the best pre apex footage i have, if you look closely you can see where all the handbrake marks are from people pre apexing into that corner, and im well and truely before that
We have made this video using bits of footage that myself and my friends have collected from various events. we really need to make a video using footage for the sole purpose of the video.
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Newcastle
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August 2003
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Promo Video - what do you think?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 04:35
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could do something like i quickly did with the background here for your text
so it doesent look so plain
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