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Porsche 1977----Help ma pls!
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Sat, 18 September 2004 01:48
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Hey all. I dont know much about cars so thats why ive turned to u guys. im interested in buying a 1977 Porsche 911 but have no idea about how fast these cars are. does anybody know how fast they are? and if they arent that quick what can b done to the engine...like, is it worth rebuilding or is it at all possible to put a new engine of some description into it? and interior....does anybody know a site, or relative prices on reconditioning the interior, mayb even totally changing it? i need help!!! prices and sites would b great if anyone knows of any.
thanks all
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Sat, 18 September 2004 02:14
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Oh, sorry I seem to have stumbled onto Pormods? 
Seriously, you have no chance for decent info here, join a Porsche club, forum, or website, you'll need to search for them yourself!
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Re: Porsche 1977----Help ma pls!
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Sat, 18 September 2004 03:16
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| sharif123 wrote on Sat, 18 September 2004 11:48 |
Hey all. I dont know much about cars so thats why ive turned to u guys. im interested in buying a 1977 Porsche 911 but have no idea about how fast these cars are. does anybody know how fast they are? and if they arent that quick what can b done to the engine...like, is it worth rebuilding or is it at all possible to put a new engine of some description into it? and interior....does anybody know a site, or relative prices on reconditioning the interior, mayb even totally changing it? i need help!!! prices and sites would b great if anyone knows of any.
thanks all
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my brother has a 1978 model hes just had tuned...it goes hard trust me! Id like to see it race johals 1jz soarer..i think itd pretty damn close. And he's planning to turbo it...they are damn strong.
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Sat, 18 September 2004 03:33
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Not really the forum to be discussing porsches but I am a bit of a Porsche nut so here goes...
1977 Aus Delivered 911
3 Litre Flat Six
Air Cooled Dry Sump
Power 200 hp or 150kw
Torque: 255 Nm
Weight: 1120 kg
Unless its the 2.7 (If it has Carrera on the back its the 3litre)
In which case its 185bhp
All these models came with Bosch Mechanical Fuel Injection
Best and cheapest upgrade for these models is a Megasquirt EFI System You can probably set it all up yourself (As a mate of mine did) for around $2000 including fuel rails injectors etc for an increase of approx 25-35bhp and far better drivability.
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Sat, 18 September 2004 03:36
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| stark wrote on Sat, 18 September 2004 13:33 |
Not really the forum to be discussing porsches but I am a bit of a Porsche nut so here goes...
1977 Aus Delivered 911
3 Litre Flat Six
Air Cooled Dry Sump
Power 200 hp or 150kw
Torque: 255 Nm
Weight: 1120 kg
Unless its the 2.7 (If it has Carrera on the back its the 3litre)
In which case its 185bhp
All these models came with Bosch Mechanical Fuel Injection
Best and cheapest upgrade for these models is a Megasquirt EFI System You can probably set it all up yourself (As a mate of mine did) for around $2000 including fuel rails injectors etc for an increase of approx 25-35bhp and far better drivability.
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Ive looked up specs to see it has 250hp...my brotheers is a SC 3.0L
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Sat, 18 September 2004 03:36
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Oh and watch the tail snap around sharply if you lift off mid corner.
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Sat, 18 September 2004 03:38
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SC's didnt come into Aus until 1978 dude his is a 77
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Sat, 18 September 2004 03:41
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Also back in the 70's the horsepower Rates were somewhat dubious...
The 250hp 911SC's were very fast but they wernt 250hp.. When Porsche reclassified the HP ratings the AUS spec 911SC 78 84 was 220BHP
The Euro Spec ones had a little more poke due to there higher compression ratio..
Still very quick cars because of there light weight
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Sat, 18 September 2004 03:41
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| stark wrote on Sat, 18 September 2004 13:38 |
SC's didnt come into Aus until 1978 dude his is a 77
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my brothers is an import.
Yeah they like to lift their legs going arond corners - especially in the wet.
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Sat, 18 September 2004 06:44
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Dont know if these were made in 77, but if you want a quick Porsche you cant go past a 930 911 RUF turbo. I can vouch that these are one bloody quick car, though i know that they are definitely out of my price range and are not the easiest thing to find.
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Sat, 18 September 2004 07:25
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Interesting fact about the Porsche Based RUFs is that they acually not Porsches in the true sense. Back in the late seventies RUF (then just a tuning house) Entered into an agreement with Porsche whereby they can use basically all parts from the porsche parts bin to produce there own vehicles.
If your lucky enough to drive or inspect one you will see that they have RUF build place and model numbers and are registered as a RUF. Even today you can buy a RUF based on the latest 996 Turbo that has around 580bhp standard or upgraded to 700bhp brand new from the factory.
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Sat, 18 September 2004 08:45
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i worked as a mech for a porsche dealership for about 3 years.
these should go hard but not comparede to the later models.
ive seen a few times a 964 motor put in the early ones as well as a 993 motor (think it needed mods to fit not too sure) which were quite good upgrades. i'll pm you a phone number of a workshop in sydney that deal with only porsche and alot of mods if im correct. i know its no real use to you but he may be able to give you some advise and costs of mods
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Sat, 18 September 2004 15:17
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Are they expensive to maintain as the reputation suggests?
I have an option of buying a 2.5 liter 944 ( I think late 80s) really cheap. I was thinking its better to stick to something japanese though 
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Sat, 18 September 2004 15:30
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My father used to own a 944...
In terms of maintenance there relatively trouble free but YOU MUST SERVICE THEM RELIGIOUSLY...
If you dont they kinda get a cascade of failures..
If you buy one get the timing belt and all the fuilds changed immediately. The only other thing that can be a problem is the water pump... You can easily replace this with the uprated one off the 944 turbo
If properly serviced the 944 will give you a real drivers car.. Still regarded as one of the best handling cars of all time. All 944's had there body panels galvanised and all have a lifetime rust guarantee.
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Sun, 19 September 2004 02:08
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a mate of mine had a '76 911 beautiful car went pretty hard had the 2.7iirc.
he blew it up from well... abuse. had new engine and gbox pout in by a workshop in sydney pm me for the name of it.
this gave him nothing but grief. probellm after problem. in and out of fair trading for years trying to get the bloke to fix things up. eventually getting the guy to fix it only to have him blow up more things in the process.
at the moment he's left with a car that dosent go anywhere a workshop that wants to wash their hands of him and a car that is looking at 5 figures to get back on the road. (engine and gbox)
my word of warning is he found parts hard to get and criminally expensive.
oh and stay away from aforementioned workshop. pm for name,.
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Sun, 19 September 2004 03:10
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The build quality between the early 911 and the 944 (Built a decade after) were miles apart.
The 944 was a very weel put together car. There are still many people racing 944s in various porsche cup series with orogional engines. Just cant stress how important it is to give them a regular service.
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Sun, 19 September 2004 08:29
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Hmmm. Regular service. In my corolla this involves an oil change and filter every 5000km and new coolant every 2 years. New g/box oil about every 60k kms. Timimg belt 100k etc. New brake fluid every couple of years
Does a service intail a lot more on a Porsche?
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Mon, 20 September 2004 23:59
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[quote title=toof wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 12:08]a mate of mine had a '76 911 beautiful car went pretty hard had the 2.7iirc.
he blew it up from well... abuse. had new engine and gbox pout in by a workshop in sydney pm me for the name of it.
this gave him nothing but grief. probellm after problem. in and out of fair trading for years trying to get the bloke to fix things up. eventually getting the guy to fix it only to have him blow up more things in the process.
Hey all thanks for the assistance. I was really determined to get the 911 till i heard what happend to toof's freind. this is terrible! there such great cars, surely a complete engine and gearbox rebuild would mean that i wouldnt incur as many problems as toof highlighted....right?!?!?
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Tue, 21 September 2004 02:33
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Have you priced a rebuild of a 2.7 motor and a 915 transmissions??? You would be lucky to get change from 10K...
Seriously These cars shouldnt need a rebuild they are usually all VERY reliable and long lasting... However your buying a car thats 27 years old...
There bound to break down if you abuse them... Dont get me wrong Porsches are true drivers cars and are designed to be driven in a spirited fashion but there is a big difference between driving a car like that hard and abusing it.
I doubt any 1977 car from any manufacturer could handle sustained abuse...
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Tue, 21 September 2004 06:57
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im pretty sure my mate priced a new box and engine rebuild at around 15k.
unlike our jap toys it isnt quite as easy to grap a replacement 2nd hand engine off the shelf at our local importers for a grand and stick it in. they just arnt common enough.
if you find a good example you should be in for years of trouble free fun. but if its been negelcted/abused/dodgy brothers mechanics your going to run into trouble which will end up meaning $$$$
i guess its the same as any car its age except that parts demand a premium.
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Wed, 22 September 2004 11:34
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Hmm, 15k is alot of money. im starting to think mayb its not worth taking the risk buy buying one and having it break all the time... Mayb id b better off gettin a supra heh heh. Anyone know how much itll cost to turbo a n/a 93 miv?
But damn i really want a porsche, they are so unbelievable. Do u guys mean that it shouldnt b street raced at all ??? like not even occassionally?
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Wed, 22 September 2004 11:40
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| sharif123 wrote on Wed, 22 September 2004 21:34 |
Hmm, 15k is alot of money. im starting to think mayb its not worth taking the risk buy buying one and having it break all the time... Mayb id b better off gettin a supra heh heh. Anyone know how much itll cost to turbo a n/a 93 miv?
But damn i really want a porsche, they are so unbelievable. Do u guys mean that it shouldnt b street raced at all ??? like not even occassionally?
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Not saying that at all they were designed to drive in a spirited fashion... Just a make sure you service it regularly and dont abuse it... By that I mean dont treat it like a P plater in an SS commodore...
But if you have the option of owning one of these peices of performance motoring history it is well worth it
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