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Ash H
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22R-E economy/starting drama's Mon, 27 September 2004 08:30 Go to next message
Hey all, my first post on Toymods so be nice Very Happy

I currently have my mum's old RA65 auto as a daily driver that needs to last until the end of the year or whenever my Datto project is on the road.

Basically, my mum cooked the motor a few times and my dad recently replaced the head gasket trying to sort the coolant loss/overheating drama's - Ever since it's been getting only 200km to a tank and takes ~2min of cranking to start when cold.

Now the motor does also have low compression in two pots (rings, I've checked), but it did prior the head gasket change and still got over 300km to a tank & started fine, albeit overheating within 5 min.

now that the radiator & head have been fixed, the temp issues are all sorted, but I'm theorizing that my dad in his infinite wisdom screwed up some sensor or possibly something coincidently died at the same time.

What should I be looking for? could the cold start injector be running backwards if he hooked up something wrong? this would explain the hard to start when cold + bad economy problems as a guess but where to look I have NFI.

I have looked at the wiring diagrams for the 22R-E under the tech docs section but as far as I can see it all looks fine.

No, I'm not fixing the compression as it seems irrelevant IMO and the car is getting a 1G-GTE conversion done on it once the datto is on the road so wasting cash on the 22r is not an option

Any help appreciated

Ash
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indigoid
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Re: 22R-E economy/starting drama's Mon, 27 September 2004 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I don't think these dinosaur motors can ever be expected to return decent economy. I drove a well-maintained 22R-E Hilux to and from Melbourne early this year and got no better than 450km from each 70 litre tank of PULP Sad

They also seem to be utterly gutless. Had to use 4th gear on things that were barely bumps, let alone hills, on the highway Sad Sad
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Fruitloop
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Re: 22R-E economy/starting drama's Mon, 27 September 2004 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm getting between 500 to 550 from my RA-65 with its 22R-EC and it isn't pussy-footed around.I use lead-replacement fuel with-out any probs and put a bottle of injector cleaner through it every oil change (5000)I think there is more wroong then just the enrichment jet if you r only getting 200
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Ash H
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Re: 22R-E economy/starting drama's Mon, 27 September 2004 21:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so can you please point me in the direction of what else could be wrong?

I run the car on PULP btw & the timing is set to 5deg btdc as per the sticker under the bonnet, with the hoses off & blocked.

Also, any thoughts on the taking ~2min of cranking to start?


Just to re-iterate - it's only gone to shit since the head was taken off & put back on so unless it's coincidence my dad screwed up something then!!!

Are there any sensors that if incorrectly/not connected would put the ECU into a limp home mode where it overfuels badly like this?

[Updated on: Mon, 27 September 2004 21:26]

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Corona RT142
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Re: 22R-E economy/starting drama's Tue, 28 September 2004 02:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah the economy on the engines is pretty shit the best i acheive is 15l per 100km more likely around 18 though, don't have the performance problem thoguh, mie flys prob got to do with my car only weighin one tonne and lots of low down torque.
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blackRA28
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Re: 22R-E economy/starting drama's Tue, 28 September 2004 02:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i dont know if this is relevant at all.. but i only get just over 100-120ks out of approx 20L of PULP from my 2 litre 18R-GEU.. It is running the 22RE afm and quite similar EFI setup and is still a bit rich low down in revs, but is this just the kind of economy to expect from a thirsty late 70's 'revvy' motor on standard EFI?
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brett_celicacoupe
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Re: 22R-E economy/starting drama's Tue, 28 September 2004 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
townsville eh..... Very Happy

u gotta remember; auto, 2.4l, early 80's/mid80's engine (a bit tired by now) , power steering, air-con (probly). a good combination for poor economy.
but if it has changed significantly since the h/g was replaced then some wire or hose may have been misplaced
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Stefan
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Re: 22R-E economy/starting drama's Tue, 28 September 2004 12:51 Go to previous message
indigoid wrote on Tue, 28 September 2004 01:27

They also seem to be utterly gutless. Had to use 4th gear on things that were barely bumps, let alone hills, on the highway Sad Sad


Interesting. Mine (stock, tired, tho with 2" exhaust) pulls up hills in 5th no problems, and that's with a tall diff. The one thing they're really good at.
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