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Registered: April 2003
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info on old skool supra 89 (ma71)
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Wed, 29 September 2004 09:29
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after some info on the older supra 88-89
like what engine do they come out with
twin or single,
hp output 1/4mile time
anything to do with them really
thanks
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Location: Brisbane, QLD
Registered: February 2003
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Re: info on old skool supra 89 (ma71)
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Wed, 29 September 2004 09:38

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try using search buddy
or google
there are a bazillion pages out there on ma71's
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Location: Auckland, NZ
Registered: August 2004
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Re: info on old skool supra 89 (ma71)
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Wed, 29 September 2004 13:27

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bahhhh search police 
ma70 chassis comes with
7mge = 3.0L non turbo 200hp @ 6000rpm and 185ftlb torque @ 4800rpm
86-88 7mgte = 3.0L turbo 230hp @ 5600rpm and 240ftlb torque @ 4000rpm
89-92 7mgte = 3.0L turbo 232hp @ 5600rpm and 253ftlb torque @ 3200rpm
the 7mgte is single turbo with a toyota steel single entry ct26
1/4 time depending on driver review mag you read but usually bout 15.3 not sure what speed
0-100kph 6sec average for the 7mgte
the 89+ 7mgte has a fully balanced crank but in sacrifice for this fully counterweighted crank you get a lower redline
the 89+ also has the oil squirters for the pistons 
fully counterweighted crank is labeled as a 7M crank
6M crank lies in the 86.5-88 7mgte's
with very little money you can crank alot of hp out of this 80's powerplant 
a little bit of info for ya
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Location: tas
Registered: June 2002
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Re: info on old skool supra 89 (ma71)
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Wed, 29 September 2004 16:19

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I'm not %100 sure, but i think you may of made a few mistakes with your figures.
Yes the Hp and torque did go up a small percentage for the 89-92 models, but the torque figures should both be listed @ 3200RPM.
All the 7MGTE engines had oil squirters and counterweighted balanced cranks.
1/4 mile is really that slow for the supra? sheesh i thought it was at least in the 14's oh well i'll have to start modding one of these days.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: info on old skool supra 89 (ma71)
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Thu, 30 September 2004 00:12

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Early 7M's have a single counterweighted crank, later ones are double counterweighted (I've seen both). I think the changeover point is around 88/89?
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Membership Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Re: info on old skool supra 89 (ma71)
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Thu, 30 September 2004 05:53

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MA71 isn't old skool.
Sorry to HI jack but it isn't
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Registered: April 2003
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Re: info on old skool supra 89 (ma71)
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Thu, 30 September 2004 07:53

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i know its not old skool but it is compaired to the new ones.
i have heard that they are prone to head gaskets
any info on this
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Location: sunny coast, qld
Registered: October 2002
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Re: info on old skool supra 89 (ma71)
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Thu, 30 September 2004 07:59

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rozz wrote on Thu, 30 September 2004 17:53 | i know its not old skool but it is compaired to the new ones.
i have heard that they are prone to head gaskets
any info on this
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yes they are
They weren't torqued down hard enough from the factory. If you want to upgrade it would be the first thing to do. I can't remember the figure that they should be torqued to though.
maybe check out www.7mpower.com
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Location: Auckland, NZ
Registered: August 2004
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Re: info on old skool supra 89 (ma71)
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Thu, 30 September 2004 08:13

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wow some ppl that do actually know mk3 supra engine bits hehe
yes the 86 87 88 had the 6m half counterweighted crank... 89-92 had fully counterweighted.. 87 89-92 had oil squirters
i believe you may be right with the torque figure.. can't see how that would change with just redline being different lol
i got the info from...
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/dataBy Subject/GasolineEngines.html#M-series
yea stock 1/4 is pretty rought but its alot of weight to haul down the strip 
tickle em a bit and they do 13's with $1500 of mods 
and yes head gaskets do go coz of not being torqued enuf from the factory.. factory torque is 58ftlbs that expect that to hold together a 6cyl turbo lol
new torque should be bout 75ftlbs with metal head gasket (at least she ain't gonna blow with that ) and brand new head bolts from toyota or get arps
hths
Suze
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Registered: August 2002
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Re: info on old skool supra 89 (ma71)
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Thu, 30 September 2004 08:35

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TheStitt wrote on Thu, 30 September 2004 15:53 |
MA71 isn't old skool.
Sorry to HI jack but it isn't
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MA61 baybee..... (ma45 is teh ghey)
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Location: Lost in the K hole
Registered: May 2002
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Re: info on old skool supra 89 (ma71)
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Thu, 30 September 2004 09:53

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suprra_girl wrote on Thu, 30 September 2004 18:13 | wow some ppl that do actually know mk3 supra engine bits hehe
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not been 'round here long huh sis?? 
and for whoever referred people off-site for info regarding torque figures... hello! whats wrong with this site theres SOOO much info on M series engines on this site it's ridiculous. shruging your shoulders and referring to 7mpower is just soft...
speaking of soft - rozz: use the SEARCH function dude!!!
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Location: Auckland, NZ
Registered: August 2004
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Location: tas
Registered: June 2002
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Re: info on old skool supra 89 (ma71)
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Fri, 01 October 2004 05:37

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Interesting stuff about the earlier 7mgte engines using a 6m crank with single counterwieghts. That i did not know!
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: info on old skool supra 89 (ma71)
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Fri, 01 October 2004 05:46

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Note that the early crank has "6M" stamped on it, but it is NOT the same as the 6M-GE crank. Weird I know!
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Location: Brisbane, QLD
Registered: February 2003
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Re: info on old skool supra 89 (ma71)
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Fri, 01 October 2004 10:25
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Norbie wrote on Fri, 01 October 2004 15:46 | Note that the early crank has "6M" stamped on it, but it is NOT the same as the 6M-GE crank. Weird I know!
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maybe it some kind of lame joke...kind of like the many easter eggs found in the many games that many people have played many times
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