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Ben Wilson
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 00:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just out of curiosity, what times were you doing at Wakefield? I think I was doing 1:17's on my old 20v last time I was out there..
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 01:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'd really reccomend going with the single piston brakes and the bigger rotors. The two things you really want for a brake upgrade are increased leverage on the disk and increased heat capacity. This means that any brake swao that doesn't change the rotor is getting you only a small portion of the advantage you could get.

The disks for the single piston caliper is both thicker and larger diameter than the AW11 disks meaning they have more mass. This gives a larger thermal capacity and the pad bears against the disk further from the centre of rotation meaning we have more leverage. The more leverage we have the less friction is needed to get the same force at the axle.

I'm not saying putting the twin piston caliper on the standard disk is a bad swap. In fact I do agree that it's a worthwhile increase but the reason for this is more that it works around a weakness of the standard setup than anything else. The bigger fluid capacity of the twin piston front calipers means that the brake distribution is changed. Because we need more fluid to move the piston out a certian distance in front then the rear caliper gets more fluid as well making the rear brakes work harder. This is a good thing in an AW11 up ot a point as the front brakes in standard setups really have far too much bias and lock up far too early.

I say get the bigger disks and then get the bias set correctly by a good brake technician.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 05:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
joshstix is right the larger disc will always give better leverage and nothing but sheet size handles the heat better. id really like to know what the specs for the ST185RC rotor is. as everyone lists it as the same as the st185 which is defiantny wrong as it is smaller...


i know this figuring is *very* primitave but... group A = faster hence brakes from group A *should* be better.


ive never felt any problems with the bias of this setup infact i definant;ly think it feels more stable in comparison to the stock setup. ive never had the proportioning adjusted either.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 05:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
toof wrote on Mon, 18 April 2005 15:05

ive never felt any problems with the bias of this setup infact i definant;ly think it feels more stable in comparison to the stock setup. ive never had the proportioning adjusted either.


That's exactly why it stops better now. The standard proportioning valve is far too biased towards the front end to the extent that I really should have got new rear pads 2 years ago but even with the 3S in there they still haven't worn out completely.

I'm not so sure that the twin piston calipers are actually specifically Group A calipers. They are actually the same as the ST165 and were used on all early ST185's. Then they changed over to the single piston calipers with the bigger disks. I believe all export ST185's also came with the single piston brakes.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 05:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
my knowledge is inline with Josh's. The twin piston was in fact from the st165 and 89 - early90 st185's.

I've just finished a 3 month long battle with Toyota (not sure if I was battling with or against though) to get the parts for these calipers (pads, shims, clips, squel things, etc). So if anyone wants the parts numbers for anything, just ask.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 06:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I was going to go with the twin piston calipers and get the slotted rotors that are made for our cars from DBA.

I really dont want to spend much more on this car. Now im just going to fix up the little bits and pieces and that will be it.

I guess when we catch up on the 22nd we can chat more about it.
In the mean time i'll just have to take it a little easier on the roads Laughing
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 06:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i could be wrong i thought the twins were from the group A only..

either way they work a treat and cost chips... well close to it... i picked mine up for a hundred bucks.



actually dave im keen to get a rebuid kit for mine. do you have the part numbers ?


hmmm i think you may be right... looking at the EPC they have the twins listed as 8910-9108

is this the twin piston rebuild kit... 04479-20110 clyinder kit, disc brake, front... ? it looks like it/.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
not for the rebuild kit, just what they call the 'pad kit'
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you sure looking here pad kit.. 04465-20280 ? or am i miles out...



http://members.iinet.net.au/~toof/epcbrakes.jpg

the bottom right kit im looking at ?
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 06:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
haha, I think you miss understood me.

I meant I don't have the part numbers for the rebuild kit. I only have them for the pad kit (the one on the bottom left).

I wish I had that photo back in November when I started my epic battle with Toyota. I was relying on their EPC without looking at it myself and I learnt the hard way to not trust someone when they say 'yep, no probs, got it for sure'
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 06:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ahhh. fair nuff. well that part number i had there im pretty sure will be the twin piston rebuild kit. but i havent got a price from toyota. no doubt it will be nuts. when i priced rebuild kits for the aw11 calipers they wanted something like $150 for the kit consiting of a couple of orings and some circlips.. ARGH.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fat i thought you said "brakes what do you need them for" Very Happy
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Are you sure no one stocks the actual twin pots pad? when I got mine they had them in the book for ST185 twin piston, although yeah they look the same as the pic you provided, they are also identical to the Subaru Legacy. I am currently using Pagid ones, they are damn good, but I like EBC greens better, trick is ST185 ones aren't available in EBC, but Legacy ones are Rolling Eyes go figure

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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ah ha that could be it Smile

that pic i put up is the ST185 listed pad from bendix. i know when i got the pads in there now i had heaps of grief getting something to match. people said "yeah that will fit <insert pad here>" then inevitably it didnt. eventually i said just find some single piston ones and see if it fits and it does..

im keen to get some green stuff's once my new set of calipers arrives (sorta in transit from japan) ill put the bendix ones in erins mr and hunt down some green stuff's for my car.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4agte wrote on Mon, 18 April 2005 18:02

Fat i thought you said "brakes what do you need them for" Very Happy



True.....I stop for no one Laughing

Jokes aside, it is a tad dangerous though. Ive run out of brakes a few times now Confused
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sorry to break up your brake discussion

TEH LIST SO FAR:


GUN METAL
TOOF
MISS MR2
FAT MR2


so who else is coming to teh first meet????
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If I get my car finished, I'll be there with big arse bells on.

Worked all last weekend which killed plans and have a mates 'bucks bonanza' which goes for most of this weekend Sad
On the brighter side though, got my 3" stainless dump delivered yesterday Smiley =
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 21:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yea, i'll upgrade my rotors with some DBA slotted oneday. the front rotors need replaceing anyways.

(had to post at least once on the page Very Happy)....
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
old_mr2 wrote on Tue, 19 April 2005 06:02

sorry to break up your brake discussion

TEH LIST SO FAR:


GUN METAL
TOOF
MISS MR2
FAT MR2


so who else is coming to teh first meet????

im there if its on the 22nd
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fatmr2 wrote on Mon, 18 April 2005 22:38

4agte wrote on Mon, 18 April 2005 18:02

Fat i thought you said "brakes what do you need them for" Very Happy



True.....I stop for no one Laughing

Jokes aside, it is a tad dangerous though. Ive run out of brakes a few times now Confused


the twin pistons dont cost big bucks people are selling em for $200 buck sometimes less.

btw congrats on reaching your goal. Hows the lag with the new turbo now that youve booted it?
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 22:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cool 4agte i thought you couldnt make it, and yes its on the 22nd


TEH LIST SO FAR:


GUN METAL
TOOF
MISS MR2
FAT MR2
4AGTE


im getting excited!! Very Happy
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Mon, 18 April 2005 23:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4agte wrote on Tue, 19 April 2005 08:41

fatmr2 wrote on Mon, 18 April 2005 22:38

4agte wrote on Mon, 18 April 2005 18:02

Fat i thought you said "brakes what do you need them for" Very Happy



True.....I stop for no one Laughing

Jokes aside, it is a tad dangerous though. Ive run out of brakes a few times now Confused


the twin pistons dont cost big bucks people are selling em for $200 buck sometimes less.

btw congrats on reaching your goal. Hows the lag with the new turbo now that youve booted it?




yeah my twins only cost me $120iirc.. or there abouts it was dirt cheap.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Tue, 19 April 2005 04:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Old I should be making ut up to your AWOA meeting #1, if all goes to plan and I get my mr2 running before then. So put me down for the moment, but It's a little shady.

I will have no problem getting all the gear on, its just the wiring is freaking me out a little, the loom I was given is hacked to shit, I may have to rewire my NA loom and add extra loom for the supercharger gear
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Tue, 19 April 2005 06:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ben Wilson wrote on Mon, 18 April 2005 10:41

Just out of curiosity, what times were you doing at Wakefield? I think I was doing 1:17's on my old 20v last time I was out there..



Ben,

I did a 1:20 flat very easy but to be honest i did not get into the brakes at all and only used half the track. I was just getting some faith in the brakes and car in general then the intercooler pipe popped off at 190 down the straight !!! Shocked

Managed to keep the car pretty much on the track but after repeatedly putting the pipe back on it was time to go home.

So i never really had an oportunity to explore the limits or for that matter even close to the limits.

I have not had that prob on the road but then again there is no way you could push the car anywhere near that hard on the road.

There is no swage on the intercooler where it popped off anyone else had this problem ?? Any suggestions on how to fix it ?

I reckon the car has 1;15s in it, maybe even 1:13s, i just have to get the skill to drive it Very Happy

I need a few more track days to get some more experience in the car on the track.

The car was very balanced and heaps of grip, the LSD worked a treat !!

How is your car going ? i am keen to go back there again to get some more experience.

I have done a 1:20 in my NA stock so time will tell !!
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Tue, 19 April 2005 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4agte wrote on Tue, 19 April 2005 08:41

fatmr2 wrote on Mon, 18 April 2005 22:38

4agte wrote on Mon, 18 April 2005 18:02

Fat i thought you said "brakes what do you need them for" Very Happy



True.....I stop for no one Laughing

Jokes aside, it is a tad dangerous though. Ive run out of brakes a few times now Confused


the twin pistons dont cost big bucks people are selling em for $200 buck sometimes less.

btw congrats on reaching your goal. Hows the lag with the new turbo now that youve booted it?




Thanks man Smile

I seem to have a little more lag than before but thats ok, boost comes on very nicely all the way to 22.5 psi. I am going to start making the new cooler pipes shortly so the new design may take away a bit of that lag.

I will be keeping my eyes out for the twins. If anyone see's any for sale give me a yell.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Tue, 19 April 2005 07:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah count me in too Old.
I also suggest we don't make too many more public plans for the event or we will end up with an unwanted Police escort all day. Especially after the recent Hawksbury Bridge incident with the Fast Fours dickheads.
PS: Check out my new 2's history page link in my sig.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Tue, 19 April 2005 07:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Does anyone have an Apache server webspace with MySQL?
I wanna set up a AWOA Forum. I reckon 1300+ posts to the one thread count as 'demand'.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Tue, 19 April 2005 07:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
adamb131 wrote on Tue, 19 April 2005 17:33

Yeah count me in too Old.
I also suggest we don't make too many more public plans for the event or we will end up with an unwanted Police escort all day. Especially after the recent Hawksbury Bridge incident with the Fast Fours dickheads.
PS: Check out my new 2's history page link in my sig.

Good thinking 99, working on an email now

Edit: couldn't get everyone's email address from their profile, so those who are keen on coming and don't get an email in the next 5 mins from me, pm me your address and I'll stick you on teh list.

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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Tue, 19 April 2005 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ben Wilson wrote on Mon, 18 April 2005 10:41

Just out of curiosity, what times were you doing at Wakefield? I think I was doing 1:17's on my old 20v last time I was out there..


i did a 1:20 at wakefield with fading rear brakes and heaps of understeer due to a dodgy wheel alignment but otherwise was good could have been about 2 secs better if i had faith in the brakes.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Tue, 19 April 2005 23:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gunmetal - With your intercooler problem, I'd suggest getting a bead welded on the end of the outlet pipe, unless you can work out a way to tie the hose clamp on the pipe end to the cooler.

I know what you mean about driving out there, I threw Dave Youl the keys to mine a while ago, it was depressing to see how much faster it could go....

FWIW, I was only getting to about 160 on the straight. I can't wait to try it with some real horsepower. I'm waiting on a new custom throttle body to hopefully fix my idle problem, but, other than that, it runs well, I've just got to get it to the dyno now.

Do you gus get chronic, frustrating understeer out of the last hairpin?
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Wed, 20 April 2005 05:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok I think I have hit a bit of trouble with my swap, mostly its going well, I have decided to start with the wiring first, since that is the most difficult.

one prob I have run into is the Coil packs. Does anybody know much about these, I have diagrams for the engine, but it doesn't show the packs, it only shows the igniter. the packs have 2 wires each, one thicker B-O, goes to both, and another one which goes to the igniter I gather. Does anybody know where the thick B-O ones go to?

I am pretty stumped on this, cause the loom I got with the gear was in shocking condition, I have had to part it up and use that to run the SC gear and ignition alone, while my original mr2 loom will be re-pinned to run the engine as normal

http://img258.echo.cx/img258/2027/scgear8th.th.jpg
the SC stuff I got

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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Wed, 20 April 2005 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ben Wilson wrote on Wed, 20 April 2005 09:19

Gunmetal - With your intercooler problem, I'd suggest getting a bead welded on the end of the outlet pipe, unless you can work out a way to tie the hose clamp on the pipe end to the cooler.

I know what you mean about driving out there, I threw Dave Youl the keys to mine a while ago, it was depressing to see how much faster it could go....

FWIW, I was only getting to about 160 on the straight. I can't wait to try it with some real horsepower. I'm waiting on a new custom throttle body to hopefully fix my idle problem, but, other than that, it runs well, I've just got to get it to the dyno now.

Do you gus get chronic, frustrating understeer out of the last hairpin?


Appreciate the comments, hopefully i can get some swages welded onto all the pipes tommorow, i just find it strange it had not blown off before Confused

Its had plenty of good runs and about 6 full power runs in a row on the dyno without a problem...very strange.

I have allready booked in for some lessons with Dave LOL but you are right i am sure i would be depressed at the moment so hopefully will get plenty more track time before he returns Laughing

Let me know as soon as its ready and we will organise a track day, maybe that can be our next get together.

As for understeer i did not have any issues with that at all or oversteer for that matter i just dont think i was pushing it that hard, i was sort of not very fluent if you know what i mean sort of slowing down then just driving trough the corner, thats what makes me think i can go a lot faster. I have done the same time in the NA and was really at the limit using all the track, but obviously the SC accelerates just so much faster and achieves faster speeds between each corner. I am not saying that it will be slower through the corners its just that you arrive a lot faster !!

Daves Dad gave my car the same wheel alignment as Daves, by the way i have the same settings on the NA and it seems very neutral.

I cant remember all the settings but basically it was max neg on the rear about minus 2.5 degrees and about minus 2 on the front, we are actually running toe out not toe in on the front, so its a long way from the factory specs, i am still using the factory bars but have some whiteline adjustables on order. To be honest i really think the Eibachs are too soft for the track do you know what spring rate they are ??
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Wed, 20 April 2005 07:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Actually for that matter does anyone have the spring rates for the standard springs ?

I have some data on the TRD springs they are as follows

Front 2.9 Kg/mm and Rear 5.0 Kg/mm

I know kings do some lowered springs for AW11 and is there some pommy ones is it SPAX ??

Does anyone else have any specs for the springs thay are running and any comments on what they think of them.

White line have given me a price of $100 a spring to get somthing specifically wound but i want to get some ideas before i invest in a new set.

This is what i think about the springs i have tried

Kmac lowered, (about 50mm) no idea about the rate but it it a constant not variable rate. It looks good but crashes through bumps as there is not enough travel on the front rear is OK
Springs are not captured by about 25mm Shocked , probably a bit soft in the rate for this low. Car sits less than 100mm from ground with 185 60 14 measured form the lowest part being the underbody tray.

Eibachs lowered(about 25mm) agiain no idea about the rate, looks way to high compared to the Kmacks but best for a spin through national park and around our crappy roads, excellent on the road but bit soft for the track, i think its some sort of variable rate spring that compresses half the coils so that the spring remains captured on full droop.

Standard springs rewound lowered about 70mm front and 90mm rear.
Great if you want to sit about 5mm above the bump stops Cool . Looks great but forget about actually driving the car on the road.

I just cant seem to find a happy meduim Crying or Very Sad Crying or Very Sad

Any other comments would be appreciated or add to the list maybe helpful to those investigating spring selection.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Wed, 20 April 2005 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What are you running toe out on the front for????
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Benjamin wrote on Wed, 20 April 2005 17:19

What are you running toe out on the front for????



Dont ask me i am not the suspension Guru Laughing Laughing Laughing

All i can say is that it works !!

When they said ((Phil Youl) Dave youls Dad, Dave races AW11s) they were going to run toe out i said WTF !!! Basically the response was to improve turn in and reduce understeer, seems to work for me, i hope i am not giving away and secrets Laughing

When i get home tonight i will see if i can find the spec sheet again i know it goes against convention but i believ it helps turn in. I have been running these settings for at least 10 years

and generally been very happy with the handling, what settings are you running ??
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Wed, 20 April 2005 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Benjamin wrote on Wed, 20 April 2005 17:19

What are you running toe out on the front for????

would be for better mid corner front end grip
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GUN METAL 87 SC wrote on Wed, 20 April 2005 17:28

Benjamin wrote on Wed, 20 April 2005 17:19

What are you running toe out on the front for????



Dont ask me i am not the suspension Guru Laughing Laughing Laughing

All i can say is that it works !!

When they said ((Phil Youl) Dave youls Dad, Dave races AW11s) they were going to run toe out i said WTF !!! Basically the response was to improve turn in and reduce understeer, seems to work for me, i hope i am not giving away and secrets Laughing

When i get home tonight i will see if i can find the spec sheet again i know it goes against convention but i believ it helps turn in. I have been running these settings for at least 10 years

and generally been very happy with the handling, what settings are you running ??


Fair enough, sounds interesting. I suppose it would give something similar to the ackermann (steering) effect as the inner wheel has to turn tighter than the outside wheel when cornering.

As for my settings?
I have no idea. I'll be getting a wheel alignment soon anyway.

On another note, does anyone know where I could get some racing brake pads from? Has anyone found a particular brand that works the best?

I've met Dave Youl before. I bought all of his air conditioning componentry... Is he still running the water injection (or IC spray) on his white street car?

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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Wed, 20 April 2005 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
how does that alignment setup go for tyre wear ? as once i get these bushes in im keen to get them set decently.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Wed, 20 April 2005 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i use lucas pads on the front and they seem quite up to the task as i go down old pac every weekend and the occasional track day they have never faded and still stop well when they are cold im going to get a set for the rears aswell.

Ive used bendix ultimates on my old car and they are an awesome pad aswell but they chew your discs and you cant get em for aw11's anyways.

Recently i put a new set of rotors and bendix metal king pads on my mates car and they are quite impressive even when they are cold.

EBC green stuff is often raved about by aw11 owners but i am yet to try them. They dont sell red stuff for the fronts if i remember correctly.

You should be able to order these pads through your local auto store.

Chatswood Auto One have allways been helpfull and they can definatley order bendix ultimates and Lucas pads in for you.

Expect to pay between 120-160 for a set of front pads.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Wed, 20 April 2005 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
toof wrote on Wed, 20 April 2005 17:41

how does that alignment setup go for tyre wear ? as once i get these bushes in im keen to get them set decently.

depends on how you drive as to how alignment setups effect your tyre wear.

If you corner hard constantly then a decent amount of negative camber and the appropriate toe in/out is what you need. If you do mainly freeway driving then the opposite would give you better wear.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Wed, 20 April 2005 07:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah cornering is where its at...

gunmetal if you could get the specs for that alignment i would be really keen..
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Wed, 20 April 2005 07:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wiso what model car is the GZE actually out of?

Karl aka thewitzl did a conversion with an AE101 GZE not so long ago he might be able to give you some pointers if you PM him.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Wed, 20 April 2005 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ive heard that green stuff is really only designed for cars under 900kg's and the red stuff is for the heavier cars.

But if the green stuff is a popular choice for the aw11 then I think I will give them a shot.
I've had my spare rotors machined already so I will chuck them in to and have a set for street and a set for racing Very Happy
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toof wrote on Wed, 20 April 2005 17:54

yeah cornering is where its at...

gunmetal if you could get the specs for that alignment i would be really keen..


im keen on those specs too.
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ebc told me that they would be fine for the mr2 but it dosent hurt to give em a call and double check. They seemed quite helpfull when i spoke to them.
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Wed, 20 April 2005 10:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Heres some alignment specs i got when i made this request U.S. mk1sc forums a while back.
Havent used them yet.


email went...

Here are some settings I used a while ago when I was doing a track days:

Rear Camber -1.0 L, -1.0 R
Rear Tow, +3mm R, +3mm L = 6mm total (I found +4mm each side made the rear
too twitchy)

Fr Castor: 5' 22" positive
Fr Camber -2.0 L, -2.0 R
Front Tow: +.8 L, +.8 R

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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Wed, 20 April 2005 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Josh the gze is out of an early AE92, but the coil pack system should be the same throughout

will PM him them, I asked another mate he said it may be a constant power feed
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Re: AW11 owners anonymous Wed, 20 April 2005 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
adamb131 wrote on Wed, 20 April 2005 20:47

Heres some alignment specs i got when i made this request U.S. mk1sc forums a while back.
Havent used them yet.


email went...

Here are some settings I used a while ago when I was doing a track days:

Rear Camber -1.0 L, -1.0 R
Rear Tow, +3mm R, +3mm L = 6mm total (I found +4mm each side made the rear
too twitchy)

Fr Castor: 5' 22" positive
Fr Camber -2.0 L, -2.0 R
Front Tow: +.8 L, +.8 R

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all of the race setups for aw11's ive heard ppl have rum maximum castor in the front.
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4agte wrote on Wed, 20 April 2005 17:46

Ive used bendix ultimates on my old car and they are an awesome pad aswell but they chew your discs and you cant get em for aw11's anyways.

Bendix do Performax for the front (DB308PFMX), just not the rear. next change on the rear i'll probably use the Metal King Plus (DB405BM).
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I've met Dave Youl before. I bought all of his air conditioning componentry... Is he still running the water injection (or IC spray) on his white street car?[/quote]

Benjamin,

Dave is in New Zealand ATM i think he will be back in about 9 months. Dont know about the IC spray he has not mentioned it.

Just by the Way i met a guy by the name of John Fulcher at the last MR-2 club run, he has a black SC, i have a feeling he knows you ?

I am also keen to get some race pads.

Toof,

Unfortunately i could not find the rest of the suspension settings i will call Dave Youl and see if he knows off the top of his head.
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feral4mr2 wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 07:13

4agte wrote on Wed, 20 April 2005 17:46

Ive used bendix ultimates on my old car and they are an awesome pad aswell but they chew your discs and you cant get em for aw11's anyways.

Bendix do Performax for the front (DB308PFMX), just not the rear. next change on the rear i'll probably use the Metal King Plus (DB405BM).


last time i checked with the auto shop they checked the book and it didnt have ultimates listed it did list advance and metal kings tho. Guess Bendix have cought up then.
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I'm using EBC green on the front and black on the back of my car with slotted disks and they will do 5 laps without a problem.

I agree that the Eibach's feel a little soft on the track, I cranked up the rebound on the konis and that helped a little.

I was running a little toe-in all around which probably explains the understeer, I just found the last corner seemed to go on forever before I could get back on the throttle (I did leave that corner backwards once though Smile)
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GUYS PLEASE HELP

anybody with a SC motor and Air con, can you tell me where your alternator sits, does the A\C sit in the same place as the n/a, and the alternator is below that? does it sit about the sump level?

I really need to know cause the front bracket I got to hold the a/c and alt, won't fit, cause I didn't realise corollas don't have oil coolers, they fowl the bracket bad
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The alternator sits high on the exhaust side and the air con compressor sits low on the same side.
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hmmm crap, would there be any problems mounting it that low in the car, would it keep shorting out in the rain? casue I am stumped, the oil cooler line don't let you get anything above the a/c in the n/a mr2. are the lines in the sc differant?
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Honestly, I dunno, I never hooked it up...
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ooops sorry man I was talking about the alternator, would it be a prob if that was down low, like in front of the sump? I could make a sheild to go over it to protect it from water. wondering would that short if it got wet, cause they get wet every time it rains anyway.
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wiso wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 09:40

GUYS PLEASE HELP

anybody with a SC motor and Air con, can you tell me where your alternator sits, does the A\C sit in the same place as the n/a, and the alternator is below that? does it sit about the sump level?

I really need to know cause the front bracket I got to hold the a/c and alt, won't fit, cause I didn't realise corollas don't have oil coolers, they fowl the bracket bad


Wiso,

I have A/C in both cars so if i can get my hands on the digi i will take a picture of both and post them, the engine in my SC is from a Levin, dont know if they are different.
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GUN METAL 87 SC wrote on Thu, 21 April 2005 08:08




Just by the Way i met a guy by the name of John Fulcher at the last MR-2 club run, he has a black SC, i have a feeling he knows you ?





Yep he is my dad's friend. It was his car that made me want to get an AW11!! I went for a ride in it when it was NA and thought it was mad. And then after he did the conversion I thought it was awesome!!
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