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jesseT18
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handbrakies Tue, 05 October 2004 01:04 Go to next message
just wondering what the REAL way to do a handbrakie is
i've been throwing in the odd one (in a private enclosed area of course Rolling Eyes ) but sometimes it just doesnt want to step out, i heard if you throw in a little front brakes you'll take the weight off the back and it well step out a lot better?

so, clucth in and hold , down shift, turn, (blip brake pedal, pull handbrake), release handbrake, clutch out, spin, counter steer, 720 degree backflip?
sounds right?

cheeeers jesse

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Re: handbrakies Tue, 05 October 2004 03:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
'the untouchable' on these forums is the king of handbrakies... Very Happy
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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 03:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Having trouble locking up the rears? Get a real handbrake! Smile (and/or get yours adjusted). My MR2 handbrake is incapable of locking the rears in the dry (only just in the wet) - I tried on Sunday and it was just sad. Razz The Supra on the other hand must use the same hydraulic system for the handbrake as for the foot brakes, because all you have to do is yoink on the handbrake and voila! instant sideways, as much as you please.

It's surprising how little throttle you need to keep the spin going once you're going round... Smile
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jesseT18
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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 04:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i do have a real handbrake!
R31 rotors and calipers, it locks in the dry every time, i think i just go too slow when i do them cause whenver im doing around 50 it steps out real nice
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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 04:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jessie, did you get a 'kit' to adapt the calipers and discs? If so, is it made by PBR?

Cheers,

Jeremy.
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jesseT18
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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 04:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i didint do it, the hole diff i took off another t18 i bought

looks like a backyard job to me but works a treat
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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 04:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ahhh ok. The reason I ask is because my mate just bought a T18 diff with R31 disks and calipers, but his appear to be some sort of conversion kit as the calipers have a cast bracket that mounts the straight onto the T18 housing. I've had a number of ppl ask me where to get such things.

Anyways, back on topic, I just pull the fucker up and enjoy the ride! Don't have to hit the brakes etc. How hard is your susp?
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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 04:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pretty dam stiff king springs, koni yellow on rear 18mm rear whiteline sway bar 25mm front whiteline sway bar, i think im just being a pussy with the speed every now and then, because i remebr numerous times where it stepped out insanely and thats when ive been going that bit faster
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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 04:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jessetamsett wrote on Wed, 06 October 2004 14:58

pretty dam stiff king springs, koni yellow on rear 18mm rear whiteline sway bar 25mm front whiteline sway bar, i think im just being a pussy with the speed every now and then, because i remebr numerous times where it stepped out insanely and thats when ive been going that bit faster


You should come with me to a place that I use to practice a bit of dori dori...... PLENTY of room to practice this sort of stuff.
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jesseT18
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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 05:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just tell me where and when and consider me there!
i'm so keen to go to a skidpan or something i only get about 15 minutes max to muck around down local park and then ive gotta be out of there, ide love a few hours of mucking around
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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 05:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nope
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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 05:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Untouchable wrote on Wed, 06 October 2004 15:17

Nope


What's up with you? Confused
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jesseT18
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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok just tried another 180 in a coldersack, i was doing about 50 this time to make sure i had enough speed behind me
steered right, left, hard right after about 1/2 a turn pulled the handbrake

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

front left wheel scraped and i do another nice 90 degree turn

whats the go!

obviously the tire scrapeing is a unrelated problem (shocks???)
but why the hell cant i get it to step out, am i not getting enough steering lock on, or pulling handbrake too early?? Sad

i guess a little practice somewhere proivate and no sub in the back to smash my windows would be a little better and ide get the hang of it there

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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 14:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
firstly to me its not worth doing under 60kmh. how i do it is like this for my '22

- go 60kmh+ (over 80 and i start t0o get multiple spins Rolling Eyes )
- at same time; hook right, rip handbrake, clutch in and light press of brakes.
- while ass end swinging out; let go of handbrake and shift first (rear locked up so goes straight im), clutch still in obviously and still light press of brakes.
- once done 180; release brake and slam accelerator, pop clutch

in my '22 i always get mad 180 spin and smoke show. for added fun ill re-light press of brakes to sit on spot and go from there Very Happy
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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i'll be giving the brake pedal a try! sounds good
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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
depending on the power of your car you could even get away with 2nd instead of using 1st if you dont want to sit too hard
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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 21:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you know your good at handbrake turns when you can flick it round and park the car perfectally paraelle with the curb Wink
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Re: handbrakies Wed, 06 October 2004 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Simon-AE86 wrote on Thu, 07 October 2004 07:58

you know your good at handbrake turns when you can flick it round and park the car perfectally paraelle with the curb Wink



lol

like in that blues brothers movie.

i find a lot of my mates rip up the hand brake too early. i turn heaps first then rip it up and the car goes nutz
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Re: handbrakies Thu, 07 October 2004 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If you want to learn how to do it properly go and join a car club and do some motorkhanas, lots of experts, plenty of practise, safe environment and a whole lot of fun.
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Re: handbrakies Thu, 07 October 2004 01:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you need to start turning a bit before you rip up the handbrake....

By the way does everyone here rip it to the right?
Try going left...
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Re: handbrakies Thu, 07 October 2004 07:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
its actually better for the suspension to do it to the left as there is less weight on that side and it doesnt dip on the rip, but i find it sorta uncomfortable that way.
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Re: handbrakies Thu, 07 October 2004 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just go in macdonalds, steal one of they're trays, put it under one of your rear tyres, reverse onto it, and voila!

i can't do it either i don't know why but i did it on downhill and mention to get it to work, wet days are easy, but yeh.. i think it's the weight shifting, but what would i know? i just drive me dads car Very Happy
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Re: handbrakies Thu, 07 October 2004 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i find its easier if u go on the brakes before you turn in or as you turn in. Just do it enough to shift a lot of the wieght to the front
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Re: handbrakies Fri, 08 October 2004 06:12 Go to previous message
schnitzel wrote on Thu, 07 October 2004 10:43

If you want to learn how to do it properly go and join a car club and do some motorkhanas, lots of experts, plenty of practise, safe environment and a whole lot of fun.


here here Smile

going into the spot you want to turn on be in 2nd not *too* fast. foot brake so the weight is shifted off the backs, start to turn, clutch i, handbrake on, jsut before you are pointed where you want to gorelease the handbrake, give her some revs and pop the clutch and youll be in business.

i had trouble learning at first geting the balance of foot brake to bring the weight to the front before you give the handbrake the old yank-ola. i found the tricky bit. once you get that right you'll be using it instead of 3-point turns in no time Smile bugger off the U-Turn hello V-Turn Smile
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