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WOLD3D MAPS FOR 4AGZE
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Mon, 11 October 2004 06:55
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Hi, I just bought a vehicle with a 4agze in it, running a
wolf3d v4 efi, with the intercooler moved to the front.
When I got the car idling was a mayor pain, as well as starting
it, and getting it to idle when comming to a stop, like at a
robot. It is also very rich.
I got most of the above issues sorted out, more or less ok.
Only problem is, getting it to start when it was left overnight.
I recon I must use the cold-start injector just to get some
fuel in.
Also the running rich part is still there.
Does anyone have a current map, where some of these issues
are sorted? If so, can you please mail it to me: mr2@mweb.co.za
Also any sugestions will be apreciated, especially the cold
starting in the morning problem.
Please help.
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I supported Toymods
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Australia
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November 2003
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Re: WOLD3D MAPS FOR 4AGZE
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Mon, 11 October 2004 06:58
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How about you take the car somewhere and get it tuned?
They don't usually come with any cold start enabled.
And no, you don't usually use the CSI, you just usually up the fuel mixtures at given temperatures.
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Re: WOLD3D MAPS FOR 4AGZE
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Mon, 11 October 2004 07:09
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Would like to get the starting sorted out my-self. Then
next time, I know what to do.
I have tried to up the mixture against the engine temp,
but still nothing. Sounds very dead till you take the
boost pipe off, and spray some engine start in, then
it starts almost imediatly. Thus the reason why I would
like to use the cold start, instead of just fueling.
I dont mind taking it to a tuner, to get the maping done
right for fueling, but would like to sort out the other
problems myself. By fixing the other issues, I learned a
lot.
If I can just have a look at how other people have done
their settings and mapping, then I will have a better under
standing of how things work.
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South Africa
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Re: WOLD3D MAPS FOR 4AGZE
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Mon, 11 October 2004 07:22
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The other problem is that there are not to many
tuners is my country - South Arfica that is familier
with this system.
What is a iscv?
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Re: WOLD3D MAPS FOR 4AGZE
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Mon, 11 October 2004 07:28
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Ahhh, that provides a sizable problem (maybe)
ISCV = Idle Speed Control Valve.
It opens and closes when the thottle is closed/opened, thus letting in the required air for idling.
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Re: WOLD3D MAPS FOR 4AGZE
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Mon, 11 October 2004 07:41
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I dont think that iscv can affect cold start - maybe the idling
when it started cold, but if it doest even show signs of life
when cranking it over, then the iscv plays very little part.
Until I spray some engine start and it fires up.
Also the problem on the iscv on the 4agze is that it is a 3
wire valve, and wolve will only vontrol a 2 wire.
The idling isnt realy a problem anymore, just the cold start.
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Re: WOLD3D MAPS FOR 4AGZE
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Mon, 11 October 2004 07:44
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The middle wire on the ISCV is for 12volts.
The outside 2 is for the ones from the Wolf (I think thats how its setup)
Trying looking for "cranking enrichment" in the program.
I don't think even a CSI works until its started, but you should still be able to get it started, even if its only for a few secs.
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Re: WOLD3D MAPS FOR 4AGZE
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Mon, 11 October 2004 07:51
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No, the wolf only has 1 wire, that wire goes to the valve, the
other wire from the valve must go 12+
The csi sprays as the motor is cranked over - think.
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Re: WOLD3D MAPS FOR 4AGZE
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Mon, 11 October 2004 07:55
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Hmm, thats strange, I have a friend who I'm positive has a wolf3d V4, and I'm sure he has 4 outputs for the ISCV (he has a different one).
As for the CSI, you could use one of the outputs to turn it on while the coolant temp is less than say 50degC, but you should be able to acheive this with temperature correction.
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August 2003
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Re: WOLD3D MAPS FOR 4AGZE
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Mon, 11 October 2004 08:19
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I dont believe Toymods has a member from Southg Africa!
That is soooo kooooooooool!
Hey there man!
Whats the driving/roads, and road rules like there?
Many done up cars? Whats the commons?
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South Africa
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March 2004
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Re: WOLD3D MAPS FOR 4AGZE
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Mon, 11 October 2004 08:21
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I have the v4 - I know there is a v4+ - maybe that has 4 wires?
I was thinking of using aux2, with the water temp like you say
<50 deg c, and full throtlle to power a relay, which in turn
will recieve power from the solenoid power, so it will only run
below 50, foor flat and when you turn the starter motor.
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Rosanna, Melb
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June 2002
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Re: WOLD3D MAPS FOR 4AGZE
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Mon, 11 October 2004 10:26
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I have a good Wolf V4 (Not V4+) map for a 4AGZE (factory everything bar a set of extractors). It's mapped up to 1bar of boost, but only to 8000rpm. At full gas it gets a bit rich, but I think that's no bad thing.
The idle speed control out of the Wolf is only 1 wire. I can also send you a wiring diagram for how to convert this into the two wire signal you need. The idle setup in the map is a bit dodgy cos I did that bit myself and have never got around to fixing it properly.
If interested, email me at hen_bokbokbok (at) yahoo.com.au and we should be able to sort something out.
Hen
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brisbane
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April 2004
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Re: WOLD3D MAPS FOR 4AGZE
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Tue, 12 October 2004 06:34
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prob wouldnt do any harm in contacting wolf themselves
www.wolfems.com.au they are pretty helpful. they even offered to upgrade my system if they couldnt fix it themselves (but they fixed it  )
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Re: WOLD3D MAPS FOR 4AGZE
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Tue, 12 October 2004 10:55
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have you adjusted the post start enrichment?, youll need to activate it then set a time then a decay rate and decay in linear or percentage mode.
read your manual or if you dont have one download it off the wolf site.. actually if you download all the manuals it makes it easier to understand... compared to the V3 manuals the v4's dont give away too much... but if you can get hold of a V3 manual theres a lot more on how to tune and its easy to relate it back to the V4.
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