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What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 02:57
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Where have all the cruise/meet posts gone?
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 03:06
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The moderators don't like people from states other than NSW. Them deleting planned events such as Jay's BBQ is a gentle hint that we are not welcome. 
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 03:38
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| SIMDOG wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 13:06 |
The moderators don't like people from states other than NSW. Them deleting planned events such as Jay's BBQ is a gentle hint that we are not welcome.
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Heh heh. Nice.
Seriously though. Mods? What happened? We had a lot of event planning on there thats just gone now. Can we get it back?
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 04:01
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| SIMDOG wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 13:06 |
The moderators don't like people from states other than NSW. Them deleting planned events such as Jay's BBQ is a gentle hint that we are not welcome.
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Simdog, be fair now - that is not how the board feels and you should know that. Please dont post comments like this as they dont reflect very well.
As for all your threads, please read the new annoucement in all of the interstate section.
http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=48047&start=0&rid=883&S=e5db93127426 871e1877ab77ded513aa
THe entire sections were deleted based upon a unanamous decision by the board that the rules in place there were being completely disregarded and there was a lack of respect towards the moderators and providers of the Toymods forums, in particular from the SA & VIC sections.
If you guys have any particular questions or comments, they would best be directed to board@toymods.org.au
THe board does appologise for any inconveniece cause to those who have used the interstate sections for their intended use, unfortunately the actions of the few ruin it for the many.
NB: this is not a policy that I personally enacted, this was the decision of the TOymods Car CLub board as a whole - so please dont attack me.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 04:12
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ok i never say anything and dont get stuck into the mods at all..... but you deleted threads specifically about cruises - in the SA section you deleted the classic celica cruise thread for 24th october, now i don't know where or what time it is. sure some people have been putting in stuff that shouldn't be there, but then if you put a post in general chat about an SA event (such as a bbq or whatever) then people would get shitty that it should be in the state section
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 04:19
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Hmmm oh well, I always enjoyed looking through the threads in the SA forum, lots of local laughs and such.
Not my place to complain.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 04:29
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why dont you just get all your local guy's MSN and ICQ details and chat there if its just laughs - or better yet - use the chat site?
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 04:31
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so are we allowed to organise cruises on our state sections or is it just for OFFICIAL events?? If its for official ones, pls define OFFICIAL. What exactly are we alllowed to post in there?
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 04:38
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why not a warning first?
or why didnt you only delete the threads that were "breaking the rules"
also, what EXACTLY brought this on?
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 04:40
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i've already explained this to you, but just for clarification:
# You can post your event freely, so long as it is legal and does not clash with an official event. You can use either the Cruises and Events section, or your particular insterstate section - that is your choice.
# an official event is an event organised by the Toymods Car Club Inc, which is actually the car club which provides these forums for you guys to use. Toymods is NOT the forums, we just named the forums after our car club - http://www.toymods.org.au
If you have any questions, just email the board on board@toymods.org.au
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 04:42
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Why are you trying to force people to use the general forum so much anyway? Is it it make the whole website a better community? Well deleting the whole Vic section isn't gonna help, I'm here to tell you. Think about how you would feel if the whole "meet/cruises" section was whiped on you. Thats how we feel now.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 05:02
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| THE WITZL wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 14:29 |
...use the chat site?
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Never mention this again.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 05:11
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Could someone please explain what is the harm of allowing state sections to have other state related threads such as 'i need help with blah blah on the weekend' or 'Spotted an AE86'? This type of thread in any other section would quickly get buried with other threads. How are these threads a problems?
I understand that there are often non-state related threads in a the state sections, but this also occurs in other parts of the forum.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 05:13
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| gianttomato wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 14:32 |
| THE WITZL wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 14:29 |
...use the chat site?
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Never mention this again.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA 
on another note i have just sent a PM to thetoyman regarding the details of an event that was about to come to actually happen in the very near future, the thread for this event was deleted and I would like it brought back as it was important for the phone numbers of those interested to be published as I dont have a record of them, so if thetoyman isnt on much and doesnt check his PM please let me know as I can send it to someone with the authority to fix it up who comes on the forum a lot.
Cheers 
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 05:14
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| 4ageeza wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 15:11 |
Could someone please explain what is the harm of allowing state sections to have other state related threads such as 'i need help with blah blah on the weekend' or 'Spotted an AE86'? This type of thread in any other section would quickly get buried with other threads. How are these threads a problems?
I understand that there are often non-state related threads in a the state sections, but this also occurs in other parts of the forum.
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Good points, but regardless of this, unilateral destruction of useful threads isn't the solution.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 05:17
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| THE WITZL wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 14:01 |
| SIMDOG wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 13:06 |
The moderators don't like people from states other than NSW. Them deleting planned events such as Jay's BBQ is a gentle hint that we are not welcome.
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Simdog, be fair now - that is not how the board feels and you should know that. Please dont post comments like this as they dont reflect very well.
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Yeah, sorry about that. It does seem that way though due to the degree of disrespect you've displayed towards SA and VIC. We had a number of threads that had details we'd sorted out with cruises, meets and BBQ's. These threads are supposedly of an acceptable nature. We shouldn't have to remember exactly what was posted in them and or contact the numerous people again just because you've decided to delete those threads.
I don't know if you are planning to reinstate the ones that are allowed... If you don't plan to then you haven't done much to make the SA and VIC feel happy.
I have read the comments the mods have made and understand that a lot of threads weren't meant to be in those sections... That's not what I am debating.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 05:27
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"moved back over time" may not help people who are trying to find out about stuff that's happening this Friday, Saturday and Sunday... Just please be quick about it if you can. 
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 05:36
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| SIMDOG wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 14:57 |
"moved back over time" may not help people who are trying to find out about stuff that's happening this Friday, Saturday and Sunday... Just please be quick about it if you can.
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if the smiley didnt say it all then ill say it my self, a lot of those threads were needed and relevant, why couldnt you just delete the bullshit threads and leave the relevant ones??
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 05:47
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Mr 1ggte - sorry mate, but we arent supermen. As well as this a very clear message needed to be sent.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 05:52
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| THE WITZL wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 15:17 |
Mr 1ggte - sorry mate, but we arent supermen. As well as this a very clear message needed to be sent.
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*sigh*
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 06:15
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Can i suggest setting up a victorian section for other miscelaneous stuff? Like contact details of vic. ppl etc...??
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 07:16
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The only clear message I'm getting is that you don't give a shit if I follow your rules or not, you're still gonna punish me. (sound familiar to anyone? D-E-F-E-C-T-E-D)
If you didn't have time to go through the threads and figure out which ones where the problem, how did you come to the conclusion that there was a problem? Or did someone just look in a couple of Vic threads and condemn all of them based on a very superficial investigation?
Enough of me picking on you, here's a solution: How about you just get someone to moderate the Vic forums. Obviously I'm not a candidate with my blatant disregard for some of the stupid forum heavy handed policies, otherwise I would nominate myself. I'm sure there is some Victoria sider that would be happy to delete the pest threads for us, leaving the relevant ones alone.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 07:20
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Hmmmm, this action seems a little unnecessary to me.
Have you had any complaints from guys on the forums/toymods-club-members about the content of the state forums?
Sure, the SA & VIC forums are quite busy with chatter, but 99% of the topics were state and/or events related.
While we do all really appreciate you guys hosting forums for us all, i just cant work out a real reason as to why this was done.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 07:20
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they can move them out quickly but not back in.......
i looked through the other states too and really there was not much difference to the SA section.
made me remember when the ae86 guys over here were organising their trip to the drift nats a few weeks back and someone moved a thread asking for some car gear into general car talk - i think the state section is the perfect place for someone to ask about gear they want to borrow from a local with regards to a trip (or "event")being organised by people from SA
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 07:24
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There is also the fact that all the good info that was in the stae forums about local companines, car clubs, etc, is now all lost.
Grrrrr.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 07:35
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yes but there are also only about 5 threads in there that are not directly related to SA. if many of those were posted in general car chat then they would not get noticed by the appropriate people or people from other states would get pissed off at us clogging up the general sections.
whatever, i see you've at least put some of the cruise detail posts back into the section now. i just don't see how this is promoting the toyota community, i only see it as a detraction.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 08:00
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| peewee wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 17:35 |
yes but there are also only about 5 threads in there that are not directly related to SA.
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Thats not the point. The point is those sections are, and have been always, dedicated for interstate cruises and events only. You all knew this. There was a warning sticky thread posted into each interstate section on the tenth of March warning that if those forums were used for general discussion etc they would be closed. Although some users have made the concious decision to ignore the rules we have not made the decisions simply to remove the forums as was planned. We have decided to give you guys a chance to follow the rules. Of course right off the bat people ignored the rules and started "what's happened to this forum threads", but that's expected.
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if many of those were posted in general car chat then they would not get noticed by the appropriate people or people from other states would get pissed off at us clogging up the general sections.
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ANd what is wrong with adding "SA: need help with installing 4age" in the title? That way the SA people see it, and even the guys from out of state can offer advise and show interest in what you are doing. Its not going to clog other sections.
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whatever, i see you've at least put some of the cruise detail posts back into the section now. i just don't see how this is promoting the toyota community, i only see it as a detraction.
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If thats the way you feel then that is unfortunate. Personally i think that by bringing all of the discussions into the main sections we are promoting a more "australia wide" toyota community, rather than a segregated bunch of groups each using the forums which toymods car club provide for their own benefits and not for the greater good of us all.
[Updated on: Wed, 13 October 2004 08:06] by Moderator
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 08:07
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Hmmmm.
There has to be a way to keep sensible state chatter while keeping you guys happy, rather than this rather heavy-handed aproach.
Have you considered adding an extra moderator per state forum (an experienced responsible long-time state member) to take the load off you guys and keep the state forums clean under rules (relaxed from current) that you guys set?
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 08:12
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I have to agree that there could be a "General SA Chat" or something along the lines.
I know alot of not so regular readers of the board, who only check the SA section, and posting stuff in the general forums quite simply would not get their attention.
But, some of the stuff in the SA section was definetely general crap, but from my observation that was mainly newbies or the same repeat offenders that didnt get the hint.
Did they just ruin a good thing for the rest of us?
or was the original plan to have the interstate sections strictly for events?
I liked things the way they were....
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 08:18
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I just think if you want to chat amongst yourselves (SA) then start you own forum. I like chatting to other people from other states about all different types of things. I mean, it does not take that long to go through the outhouse or any other section to look for what you want, only if you have not been on for a few months, that might take a bit more time
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Wed, 13 October 2004 08:21
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I posted up a huge reply to this before but got disconnected when i hit reply and lost it all 
sooooooooooooo i'll keep it short.
Its no wonder that so many other toyota clubs keep popping up when toymods forums continue to being nazi run! I think the other states must be jealouse cos the vic/sa crews are a tight group and are verry active. I really can't be stuffed typing the rest cos no doubt, like last time me post will get deleted and with admin asking me for people to block my posts. Meanwhile they continue to hide behindt he nazi cos they don't have the balls to be publicly known
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| SIMDOG wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 13:06 |
The moderators don't like people from states other than NSW. Them deleting planned events such as Jay's BBQ is a gentle hint that we are not welcome.
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Simdog, be fair now - that is not how the board feels and you should know that. Please dont post comments like this as they dont reflect very well.
As for all your threads, please read the new annoucement in all of the interstate section.
http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=48047&start=0&rid=883&S=e5db93127426 871e1877ab77ded513aa
THe entire sections were deleted based upon a unanamous decision by the board that the rules in place there were being completely disregarded and there was a lack of respect towards the moderators and providers of the Toymods forums, in particular from the SA & VIC sections.
If you guys have any particular questions or comments, they would best be directed to board@toymods.org.au
THe board does appologise for any inconveniece cause to those who have used the interstate sections for their intended use, unfortunately the actions of the few ruin it for the many.
NB: this is not a policy that I personally enacted, this was the decision of the TOymods Car CLub board as a whole - so please dont attack me.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 08:25
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| Skaney wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 18:12 |
I know alot of not so regular readers of the board, who only check the SA section, and posting stuff in the general forums quite simply would not get their attention.
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You've hit the nail on the head here.
The aim is to improve the community as a whole. What you are talking about is the opposite of this. You're requesting that a special forum be made because there are people from SA who don't want to contribute to the greater Toymods community, only to the SA component.
I understand that letting people know where you are is useful, that's why the profile includes location. If you really need to specify location then it is easy enough to put it in the title of the post.
What I don't understand is why people feel the need to segregate themselves from the rest of the community and then claim that this helps the community.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 08:39
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| Joshstix wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 18:25 |
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What I don't understand is why people feel the need to segregate themselves from the rest of the community and then claim that this helps the community.
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i dont think that is the case. for instance, if im looking for a cheap place to make a bodykit in victoria, it would make more sense to ask that in a victoria section since the other sections are mainly sydney based. And also for ppl to know whats available in their state. Its not about being snobbish, its just more convinient some times.
It is pretty difficult to look for something happening outside sydney in general sections. im just suggesting that a little bit of slack is given to the state sections.
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Wed, 13 October 2004 08:48
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Err - to all the SA dudes whinging - we might have a car club with a forum up soon anyway, so get over it! Sure it's an inconvenience for now, but it's not like it's the end of the world.
Anyone who didn't see this coming from a mile away is clearly seeing the world through rose-coloured glasses.
Rules are rules, peeps!
If you want the attention of SA people in your thread, just put 'SA only' at the start of the title or something.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 10:06
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i dont know what everyones problem is.
come into my house, respect my rules or your OUT!
use someone else forum then do the same
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 10:24
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could we do this democratically?
id appreciate if i could vote to have the interstate section not just for official events, but also have state related threads like for example 'Anyone willing to lend me a hand fixing my car this weekend?'
I can't see how posting that in general chat/tech section/outhouse benefits the community if the thread is directed at a specific target audience.
I try to abide by the forums rules when I do post. So don't think I'd be ready to walk in your house and dirty up ur new couch or anything like that...
Cheers,
James
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 12:31
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I believe the Board needs a pat on the back for working towards a national forum, but in my opinion its not going to happen. Too many people in smaller sections. We'll have more personality clashes than every before. And people spending more time in the corners than in the pit with the rest of us.
[quote title=Joshstix wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 18:25
You're requesting that a special forum be made because there are people from SA who don't want to contribute to the greater Toymods community, only to the SA component.
What I don't understand is why people feel the need to segregate themselves from the rest of the community and then claim that this helps the community.[/quote]
As already stated. This isn't the case. A simple look from an outsiders point of view would enlighten you.
First of all, its an assumption that we(he) want(s) another special forum because we don't want to contribute. This is NOT the case. I think you'll find that its a rather large forum. And posts are too quickly burried in the traffic from the other states. The reason we value the sub-sections soo much is because it SAVES us time !
SIMPLE
Not only do we want to know whats going on this weekend. Sometimes we might just look for posts that friends have made. Another good example is the handyness of having a place to put such threads as 'Fibreglass moudling day'. Now the organisers or creators of the thread new it would be saving them alot of time and more importantly increasing the chances of the Right people seeing the thread by placing it in the Victorian section. Putting it into 'General' would not only have reduced the chance of interested and applicable Toymods visiters reading the thread but drawn unwanted attention from interstate parties. Its not that helping others isn't on the agender, but not everyone can dedicate their time to a National 'group-buy' so hey, start local. Its better than not doing anything at all.
I'd guess the reason for creating the interstate sections, was to do with the amount of un-relevant traffic ending up in National sections?
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 13:40
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| faulksy wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 20:06 |
i dont know what everyones problem is.
come into my house, respect my rules or your OUT!
use someone else forum then do the same
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The short and sweet way to put it, but generally that is exactly the case.
Now, how about we all stop complaining and arguing, go outside and continuing modifying our Toyotas and organising events and being a part of a greater community in which we all share a comon love - TOYOTA
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 13:46
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| T APLUS 22 wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 22:31 |
As already stated. This isn't the case. A simple look from an outsiders point of view would enlighten you.
First of all, its an assumption that we(he) want(s) another special forum because we don't want to contribute. This is NOT the case. I think you'll find that its a rather large forum. And posts are too quickly burried in the traffic from the other states. The reason we value the sub-sections soo much is because it SAVES us time !
SIMPLE
Not only do we want to know whats going on this weekend. Sometimes we might just look for posts that friends have made. Another good example is the handyness of having a place to put such threads as 'Fibreglass moudling day'. Now the organisers or creators of the thread new it would be saving them alot of time and more importantly increasing the chances of the Right people seeing the thread by placing it in the Victorian section. Putting it into 'General' would not only have reduced the chance of interested and applicable Toymods visiters reading the thread but drawn unwanted attention from interstate parties. Its not that helping others isn't on the agender, but not everyone can dedicate their time to a National 'group-buy' so hey, start local. Its better than not doing anything at all.
I'd guess the reason for creating the interstate sections, was to do with the amount of un-relevant traffic ending up in National sections?
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Thats what im trying to say!!!
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 13:49
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Yeah, I agree with that too.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 14:42
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So would it be too much to ask for a sub-section under states for the states general chat
One general section is kinda hard to get a topic through.
Interstate cruises/events:
South Australia:
SA general chat
Victoria:
Vic chat
u get my drift
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I supported Toymods
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 15:35
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| Choony_AE86 wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 22:42 |
So would it be too much to ask for a sub-section under states for the states general chat
One general section is kinda hard to get a topic through.
Interstate cruises/events:
South Australia:
SA general chat
Victoria:
Vic chat
u get my drift
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Did you not read the thread? The reason this isn't going to happen is because the Toymods board want to have the discussions in the main areas where everyone can contribute. A Toymods community is an admirable goal.
Everyone just stop their whining and use the forums the way they're intended. Pissing and moaning is only going to be a step in the wrong direction. 
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 15:52
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I figure it this way....... Keep the nazi policie............ toymods looses money.......... have the forum the way the sujested way toymods gains money....... hmmmmm wonder what way i'd have it I was looking at chipping in money, but nazi policie came back. Now im looking at putting my money elsewhere.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 15:55
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How does it affect Toymods $-wise either way? I think you're missing the point dude.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 16:03
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have a think about it, then re-post
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I supported Toymods
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 16:06
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The only way I can interpret it the way you're thinking is that you're not going to donate money because you don't like the way the forums are run. Thats fine, you don't have to, there are plenty of others who don't mind the rules at all who are willing to do so. Stop being so petty, all of you.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 16:13
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Obviously theres a point to be made if we're all saying the same thing. Then theres the people that think the same thing that don't wanna speak up. Some of which......... might suprise you!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 16:14
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Is it that hard to just follow the rules like the other states seem to manage?
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 16:16
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[quote title=T APLUS 22 wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 22:31]I believe the Board needs a pat on the back for working towards a national forum, but in my opinion its not going to happen. Too many people in smaller sections. We'll have more personality clashes than every before. And people spending more time in the corners than in the pit with the rest of us.
Joshstix wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 18:25
You're requesting that a special forum be made because there are people from SA who don't want to contribute to the greater Toymods community, only to the SA component.
What I don't understand is why people feel the need to segregate themselves from the rest of the community and then claim that this helps the community.[/quote |
As already stated. This isn't the case. A simple look from an outsiders point of view would enlighten you.
First of all, its an assumption that we(he) want(s) another special forum because we don't want to contribute. This is NOT the case. I think you'll find that its a rather large forum. And posts are too quickly burried in the traffic from the other states. The reason we value the sub-sections soo much is because it SAVES us time !
SIMPLE
Not only do we want to know whats going on this weekend. Sometimes we might just look for posts that friends have made. Another good example is the handyness of having a place to put such threads as 'Fibreglass moudling day'. Now the organisers or creators of the thread new it would be saving them alot of time and more importantly increasing the chances of the Right people seeing the thread by placing it in the Victorian section. Putting it into 'General' would not only have reduced the chance of interested and applicable Toymods visiters reading the thread but drawn unwanted attention from interstate parties. Its not that helping others isn't on the agender, but not everyone can dedicate their time to a National 'group-buy' so hey, start local. Its better than not doing anything at all.
I'd guess the reason for creating the interstate sections, was to do with the amount of un-relevant traffic ending up in National sections?
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Thats the point!!
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 17:16
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| Joshstix wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 17:29 |
The forums were being abused based on the rules that they were provided under. If you want someone to blame start taking a look at people that post threads with things like:
| SeptemberSquallIndustries wrote on Wed, 22 September 2004 18:26 |
Hi,
I've found a guy who specialises in automotive fibreglass work who can mould a set of panels for TA22 or other early Celica and produce copies.
(P.S. If necessary I'll put on a BBQ and free Coke when we all come pick up our panels and call it 'Classic Celica Club of Victoria Restoration Meet #1' so Teh Whitzl doesn't need to powertrip us into the 'General Talk' section... )
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Now this is obviously not a real event but it is very much an attack on the moderators of the forum.
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It's called passive resistance. I'll now post it in the General Car Talk section, I'd like you to watch the thread and observe how many people offer to send me panels from interstate as templates for FRPs.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 17:22
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P.S. DID TEH WHITZL FORGET THE PASSWORD FOR THE NET NAZI ACCOUNT?
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 17:38
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THE WITZL: I agree with what your saying, I dont read the VIC forums, but I do know that the SA forums often contain material that should be posted in other areas. I see where your coming from, and understand your just trying to make the site more practical and efficient to use. Even tho I think you (as the Toymods group, not yourself) might be being a bit heavy handed. But its not my call so I cant complain
Have you ever considered giving the SA and VIC sections there own "for sale" "out house" "conversions" type sections. I understand theres alot more work involved, but as M.W.P said I'm sure theres plenty of us that would be willing to help with some sort of admin.
For example, some of the SA NON-RELATED topics that have been deleted/movie in the SA section:
Where's a good place for a cut & reweld
dispose engine (gone!!!)
RE: Making a movie and needs some props!
SA Toyota Roll Call
Calling all Turbo A supras
Sure some of them are not related to SA events etc, but things like "where can i get this fixed" "where do i find this part" and stuff would be more practical in the long run in state divided groups, rather than one huge pool from the whole of Australia.
please dont get me wrong, I appectiate the awesome (and FREE, as some people might forget) services you guys supply us. I would be lost without it, but I'm just trying to show my point and offer ideas to help you.
Finally.. If you need any sort of assistance with anything please dont hesitate to ask, I'm a g33k that spends way to much time on the web so i may as well help with something if needed
/end 2cents (GST inclusive)
Graham
EDIT: hahaha OOPS I didnt realise there was more than one page on this topic, so I've probably talked about stuff thats allready been said. Sorry about that
[Updated on: Wed, 13 October 2004 17:42]
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 20:46
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| Seven of GAFFiO wrote on Thu, 14 October 2004 03:38 |
EDIT: hahaha OOPS I didnt realise there was more than one page on this topic, so I've probably talked about stuff thats allready been said. Sorry about that
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and he calls himself a geek? oops, sorry g33k.
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 22:14
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| SeptemberSquallIndustries wrote on Thu, 14 October 2004 03:22 |
P.S. DID TEH WHITZL FORGET THE PASSWORD FOR THE NET NAZI ACCOUNT?
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FFS!!! How many times do i have to say - i am not the freaking net nazi. Please take note EVERYONE.
And while im at it, learn to spell my name correctly please.
it seems this topic is going in circles, the board has made a decision, we have explained our reasoning, and it has happened. We understand what you guys want, we knew that last year when the interstate sections changed, but it's not what the board wants from our forums.
I'm sorry if it doesnt suit everyone.
Like i suggested before - all it takes is a little note in the topic title with your state/location to grab the attention of other local posters.
I'm sure you guys will get used to it, and the traffic in the general section isnt as high as you might think.
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Wed, 13 October 2004 23:23
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I going to put my 2c worth in here.
BTW I'm not on the board but have of a bit of unique perspective on the interstate stuff.
I now live in Syndey, but I'm from Brisbane. So far this year I have also travelled to SA, ACT, Qld, & Vic. In some of those places I have met up with some of you (some in Adelaide may remember).
I also own quite a rare import. I recently had a bit shunt which required replacement of panels, etc.
None of these parts came from NSW. The panels all came from importers on the Gold Coast, & some even from NZ.
Because I travel interstate a bit, I'm always looking around for places to either buy things from or get work done. Therefore I'm always interested to see where things come from, or can even offer advice on where to get stuff.
I'm also currently looking for a bodykit, also another thing I probably can't get here.
Therefore, why should I should be excluded from knowing about stuff in other states just because you think it affects locals only?
And if you what to know about finding stuff in your local region, why not have in the thread title: eg "western suburbs Melbourne"? That way others who would have no idea, don't have to look at the thread, & others interested can respond. I have responded to questions about Qld stuff before.
It would making searching stuff easier. eg when Stitt blew up his gearbox in Melbourne last year. If he'd been a new member of the club & didn't know who to contact down there, he could've searched for "gearbox Melbourne"
Rant over...
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I supported Toymods
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Re: What happened to the Vic section?
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Thu, 14 October 2004 00:05
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| SeptemberSquallIndustries wrote on Thu, 14 October 2004 03:22 |
P.S. DID TEH WHITZL FORGET THE PASSWORD FOR THE NET NAZI ACCOUNT?
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Let me start by making something very clear, You (septsqual industries) disrespect a board member or moderator again and you WILL be banned as will your IP address. You offer nothing to this forum and I hope your local state realises your person actions are one of the reasons this action has been taken. Go crap in someone elses sandbox !
Josh and Karl have neen rather diplomatic on this topic and I hope that most of the people reading it can see the position of the Toymods Board. Having been around and involved in the board for a bit longer I tend to get more emotional so I'll try and make the point crystal clear.
These forums are PAID for and managed by the FINACIAL members of the Toymods car club. What you see here is a service PAID for by 92 People, the REAL toymodders who make this club possible by supporting it with their $$$ not just their opinions. Their names can be found here: http://www.toymods.org.au/memberscars.php
Alternatly there are 7537 registered forum users, a very small percentage of who have assisted by donating to the forums which is also appreciated. If you want to pass a "vote" as to what sections we have.. Join the club and get a voice. Tell you what I'll even accept 10%, When the 753 membership forms arrive I'll start a poll !
These forums were created for the benefit of the Toymods Car clubs members and to foster a wider toymods community NOT half a dozen interstate communities !
The interstate sections are there to assist those states in having their own EVENTS. We would be stoked to see other clubs start in other states. Other than local events there is NO good reason for people to avoid using the main sections as they were intended, unless of course you don't want to be part of the wider Toymods community, in which case your not welcome here anyway ! Your all interacting online, if its across the street or accross the country who cares. The idea was ONE wider community and that is what we will continue to strive towards.
End Rant !
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