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Pure_In_Sanity
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Corona Mk2 Conversion Sun, 17 October 2004 03:18 Go to next message
Hi Guys.

In the quest for more power, I am going through ideas on what conversion to carry out on my mx10 mk2. Looking at the 7mgte and 1jzg(t)e, these all look so good but the cost seems quite high. Thinking of going an M-teu. Are these available in half cuts through special order, or are the early soarers just about obsolete in japan now? I know the power increase wouldnt be as much but i assume it would be easier to pass engineer inspection with the m-teu. Any other ideas???

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p.s. Cambelt & G.T. - Keep up the bloody good work, you're an inspiration!! Very Happy
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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Sun, 17 October 2004 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ive seen 7MGTE's in MKII's before... but i have absolutely no idea on how it goes or how to do it...
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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Sun, 17 October 2004 06:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
M-TEU's are old, and not very common (and not very powerful anyway...). And to be honest I wouldn't go that way! I think engineering will be easy as if you stay with an 'm' series engine anyway.

7M-GE would be another option, but 7mgte is prbly the easiest/best bang for buck (1jz requires sump mods, and also rack and pinion steering conversion...)

I'd say the 7mgte Smile

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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Sun, 17 October 2004 06:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah i see where your coming from. Smile
I was thinking that if the engine number on the m-teu was the same format as my 'M', i could swap the inlet exhaust manifolds, fit the engine and take it to the rta for engine swap inspection, and fit turbo / injection manifolds upon returning with that engine block registered in the car.

kinda dodgy though ey! Rolling Eyes

hehe

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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Sun, 17 October 2004 06:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes, dodgy - you'll still be driving around in an illegally modified car, and any insurance you have will be void. Do it the right way or don't do it at all!

I agree with Wilbo, don't waste time with the M-TEU. If you want a relatively straightforward performance upgrade, the 7M-GTE is the way to go.
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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Sun, 17 October 2004 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
7MGTE definitely worthwhile.

There was one running mid 12s here in Melb. The other runs low 13s.
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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Sun, 17 October 2004 08:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave, What have you had to do in regards to brakes and suspension in the mx23?? I know of the ms112 rear end upgrade, what about fronts??
Well from the advice so far, the 7mgte is most likely the path i'll take. Any major structural mods required?
Thanks for all the help so far guys.

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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Sun, 17 October 2004 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The MX23 runs 330mm front rotors and 307mm rears.

My MX13 sedan runs 266 mm vented rotors with modified twin spots and the MS112 diff with vented 261 mm rotors. Cambelt is very happy with his (very well maintained) standard braking system.

In terms of engineering, the standard brakes will pass, but you really would want to consider an upgrade.

No real mods needed for the conversion, except for slight modification of the gearbox crossmember. Use a W58 gearbox - it fits in the tunnel nicely. I think you can even use the standard tailshaft.

Unfortunately the MX10 has the smaller radiator, so you would want to make sure the cooling system is tiptop.

The other major issue is room for an intercooler comes at a premium, particularly if you have an AC.

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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Mon, 18 October 2004 00:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i think he could try a top- mounted cooler, there's plenty of open bonnet space to cut out for it. piping could be tricky. needs to get a later mx13 3-core radiator or better for it hey? GT, any bolt-on front calipers for a mx22? it's only got 14" inch wheels so i can't really get bigger discs. i was gonna get an rt142 irs setup, with discs, what do you reckon? how strict is engineering over where you are? i'm in tas.
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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Mon, 18 October 2004 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Im running 15" wheels so i can fit the larger brakes. From looking through previous discussions, i am highly considering 60 series landcruiser calipers on the front with peugeot 604 slotted rotors on MS85 hubs. For the rear - RN41 hilux diff housing & axles with 3.9:1 4pinion LSD & MA70 diskbrake setup. This would give me an 5 stud pattern at each end. I do not have a/c so this will not be a major problem. I wouldnt mind upgrading to pwr steering, i assume the mx13 box would be usable. The W58, This is the celica 5speed? I heard that the r154 was a tight fit. I will be replacing all suspension bushes, urethane for those available. Also new springs and shocks will be fitted. The 215/60R15 that i have are too close to the rear guard lips, so i may look for different offset wheels when it goes 5stud, if not, i guess ill have to loose width (and traction Crying or Very Sad )
The Mk II corona is such are great looking car (in my opinion) so the 7mgte will give it the performance it deserves.
Thanks for all the input, I think that this is all very do-able.
- Phil
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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Mon, 18 October 2004 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
7MGTE Very Happy

Shame you're in Melbourne as I have a shitload of MX13 bits you may have been able to use.

Intercooler is a pain, but something with slightly forward-facing outlet/inlet would suit ok (run piping inside front bar)... an EVO 6 cooler or similar would probably do, and would be up to a stock-ish 7M no problem at all.

Would romp in low 13's with a fairly basic 7M setup.

The W55/W57 is the late Celica box that will bolt up with the correct "M" bellhousing (early one is W50 and not worth your time). The W58 is actually the "Supra" box and in my experience holds up perfectly well in a much heavier car with the same engine and a rather solid clutch setup!

A basic brake upgrade is quite straightforward, go here: http://www.turbosupras.com/~lmdwyer/corona/brakes. html. Personally I'd investigate later model 4-Runner calipers and Magna discs as they are much thicker and a similar diameter if doing it again.

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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Tue, 19 October 2004 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks for that advice 7m. I had seen your article - Great stuff! I will look into the magna disks. They may require the centre being machined larger, but this is no biggie. Being 5 stud, they may even be better suited to the ms85 hubs. The reason i would like to use the hilux rear is the availability of the lsd centres, i could not find info on this for the ms112 rear. The rear supra disks would actually be bigger (291mm) than the fronts i would use (273-276mm) but they have the handbrake drum in the middle so the pad area is not that big. Hopefully this is not an engineer issue. Intercooler pipes through the front bar sounds good, ill have to hunt down a pic of a Evo 6 i/c. I will price up the calipers / rotors this weekend, they'll be upgraded before i aquire a halfcut. Anyone got P/S gear for a MX? Or a bigger radiator??

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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Tue, 19 October 2004 09:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have done the Magna rotors conversion and can talk you thru it. You'll need to machine out the centres and also chamfer the edge of the hat to clear the caliper. I have a range of pics I could send you.

DO NOT USE MS85 HUBS - THEY USE DIFFERENT WHEEL BEARINGS. Use MS65 ones.
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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Tue, 19 October 2004 09:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks GT, you have PM.
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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Fri, 03 June 2005 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi everyone,

It's been excellent finding a knowledge base for this kind of thing. Until today I figured I was the only guy on the planet who still had an MX13 - turns out I guess I'm just the last one in Canada. I have no clue why this forum never came up in any of my prior searching. Before, searches for Corona MarkII only led me to typewriters and parts bins...

I hope to share my experiences now that I know there might be an audience... it's cool knowing that all the plans I had for my car have been realized elsewhere - that I'm not far off.

I'm looking forward to hearing from other MarkII owners...

-Kevin
'76 Corona MkII MX13
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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Sat, 04 June 2005 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gianttomato wrote on Tue, 19 October 2004 19:19


DO NOT USE MS85 HUBS - THEY USE DIFFERENT WHEEL BEARINGS. Use MS65 ones.


MS65 hubs are the goods, if you're lucky enough to find them. You CAN use later Crown hubs, just need to use different bearings and give the hub a little bit of love on the lathe. I've used UZS131 hubs on both my cars this way without any issues.

ozzy - yes, there are people in this world that still show these cars the love they deserve - cambelt and gianttomato will be overjoyed to find more people who share their passion. Else they'll be exceedingly jealous...
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Re: Corona Mk2 Conversion Sun, 05 June 2005 06:19 Go to previous message
Yes us Corona MK2 bogans are a rare breed! Razz

Lol - this thread is from a while back, i did use MS65 hubs, but it did take a while to find a pair.
Hilux diff will soon be finished - just waiting on some certain caliper brackets Wink

Cant wait to fit the 7M later this year

Cheers
-Phil

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