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4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Mon, 18 October 2004 22:49 Go to next message
I'm trying to figure out if I have a thermostat housing on the car, it's got the 4agze block with the 4age head, but I can seem to see the thermostat housing, how does it look like? As the engine is not warming up and I want to figure if the thermostat is faulty, or is it non-existant?
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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Tue, 19 October 2004 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
two options:

# If you have the RWD water pump, its in the rear housing of the water pump

# If you have the FWD water pump, its in the remote thermostat housing on top of the gearbox.. or somewhere else if its a custom remote thermostat mounting.
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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Tue, 19 October 2004 01:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Could this be a thermostat housing?

PIC OF ENGINE BLOCK

[Updated on: Thu, 21 October 2004 00:37]

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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Tue, 19 October 2004 01:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no my friend thats not it Very Happy

as henn said..

look at your bottom rad hose..follow as far as you can..IF you see some sort of metal housing with the heater pipes and rad hoses going in and out, that is your remote thermostat housing..she will be in there

or if you put a RWD water pump in it its in that.
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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Tue, 19 October 2004 01:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
how can you tell if it's a RWD water pump or FWD water pump? mine's just connected to the belt?
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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Tue, 19 October 2004 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You have an FWD pump. That outlet is the FWD one, and im pretty sure you cant fit a rwd pump to a GZE because it hits the supercharger.

Anyway, look ontop of the gearbox.

*points that way* YARRR
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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Tue, 19 October 2004 02:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi there, but I don't have a supercharger on, but what pictures should I post to make identification easier?
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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Tue, 19 October 2004 02:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AVAST MATEY! thar thermostat housing be located on top of yer gearbox YARRR!!
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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Tue, 19 October 2004 05:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sorry but correct me if i'm wrong..but the angle of that rad hose makes me think that it is in a RWD setup..that info would clear up a fair bit of confusion!
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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Tue, 19 October 2004 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PIC NEAR THE WATER PUMP
Is this what I'm looking for???

[Updated on: Thu, 21 October 2004 00:38]

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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Tue, 19 October 2004 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
follow that big metal pipe thats attatched to the rear water pump housing your yellow arrow is pointing at. it will run along the rear of your block then have a heater hose coupling that is onto the thermastat housing that should be sitting on top of your gearbox like the others have told you.

http://upload.3sgtemr2.com/upload/feralpulldowncamsout2.jpg
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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Tue, 19 October 2004 13:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
but that metal pipe of mine just goes to the back and bends back into the lower radiator hose without connecting to anything else??
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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Tue, 19 October 2004 23:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
as in my last post I mentioned that big hose just loops back to the radiator...

PIC SHOWING THE PIPE BENDING FROM LOWER RADIATOR STRAIGHT BACK TO WATER PUMP

but I've got the pic behind the head, where the water temp sensor is, is this where the thermostat supposed to be??

SHOWING THE WATER OUTLET ON THE BACK OF THE BLOCK WITH TEMP SENSOR WIRING AND HEATER HOSES



could it mean I have no thermostat housing??

[Updated on: Thu, 21 October 2004 00:42]

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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Wed, 20 October 2004 00:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WHAT CAR DO YOU HAVE?!?!

and can you give a more complete pic of your engine bay....

look here for some more info:

http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&g oto=250013&rid=883&S=e5db93127426871e1877a b77ded513aa


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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Wed, 20 October 2004 00:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Avast, you dont have one. Actually you dont even have a supercharger.

Well maybe you have a thermostat, but the supercharger normally mounts to where the alternator is.

Guessing from your nick the engine is to be turboed, so using the gze block for that. Well if you have a rwd pump the thermostat is likely to be onthe top water outlet, but the top water outlet (front of head) looks suspiciously like a 100kw (fwd) version. Which leads me to the conclusion that some dodgy bum has removed the thermostat.

The rear water outlet is nowhere near where the thermostat woudl be. And avast i see firewall and heater hose piping there. Im guessing its in an AE86 without a thermostat.
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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Wed, 20 October 2004 01:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey, sorry I thought it was irrelavant what car it was, takai is right, it's in a ae86 with a turbo, the dodgy previous owner must have taken out the thermostat, because if that's how the thermostat housing should look, then I never seen one in my car... so how should I fit the thermostat?

looking at Witzl's pic..

WITZL's PIC, ALSO SHOWN BELOW IN A SMALLER FORMAT

he's got some heater hose going out of the thermostat housing, but my heater hoses aren't connected to the bottom radiator hose? I'll go and check now to see where the top radiator hose connects first...

[Updated on: Thu, 21 October 2004 00:44]

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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Wed, 20 October 2004 01:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok I've just checked, the top radiator hose goes to the engine as shown in the first pic in the post (1), then the other end heads to a T-piece (2) which goes to the turbo & heater tap thing, then the return line of the turbo & heater goes back to the back of the engine where the temp sensor is (only 1 sensor was used?)

then the bottom radiator hose just goes straight to the water pump...

so how should I fit this thermostat housing? should I cut through (1) & (2) and connect to the top & left of the housing, then cut through the bottom radiator hose and connect to the thermostat housing?
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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Wed, 20 October 2004 03:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah that is just my dodgy little guide of making FWD 4age water pumps work in RWD with a remote thermostat housing.

Basically for you, copy what i have done, just T your turbo water line into the hose going from the thermostat housing to the heater core (the one with the dodgy pipe section) and then have the return going to the same place.

Easy peasy.
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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Wed, 20 October 2004 06:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just need to confirm, is this what I should do???

http://members.dodo.com.au/~l88/instru.jpg


Also is the AE82 Twin Cam thermostat different to the AE82 4ac? because I just saw one couple of hours ago in a wrecker and it looks different?
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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Thu, 21 October 2004 00:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Will this work??

http://members.dodo.com.au/~l88/water.jpg
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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Sat, 23 October 2004 03:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
here's what i think, someone please correct me if i am wrong.

The green thing is a T-piece, purple lines are the turbo's water lines, blue is the standard water line as per my setup, and red is all the bits in the car.

http://www.rollamods.com/witzl/ae71%20conversion/install/turbo-water-system.jpg

[Updated on: Sat, 23 October 2004 03:41]

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Re: 4AGE Head 4AGZE Block: Where's the thermostat housing?? Sat, 23 October 2004 04:09 Go to previous message
so when the thermostat is closed, is point #1, #3 & #4 inter-connected??
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