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2TG valve springs
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Fri, 24 May 2002 15:27
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I haven't pulled my cams off yet to look, but I think I need/want new stiffer valve springs. I have a 2TG 88222 head with single springs, and it starts to bounce or something at 6000rpm, won't want to go further, but it used to.
Where can I get new double valve springs? Can they be got from Repco? Also I may be after 2TG regrind cams of a streetable nature, something a bit more lively than standard.
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Club President
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Re: 2TG valve springs
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Sat, 25 May 2002 13:34
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Jonny,
Mate both these contacts are in NSW but if you get stuck for local assistance.
For the valve springs you shoul Speak to Graham Wilkins of Wilkins performance Engines. He used to Race 2TG's when they first arrived in Australia and can get springs to suit your needs. I'll track his number down for you if you like. (Its at work)
For the Cams you can also speak to Graham to see what will match your needs and engine configuration. If you already know what profile you want you can ring Camtech Direct. They do a range of regrinds for the 2TG. They will need your cams of course but are happy to ship to anywhere. (I also have there number at work)
If you wanted to I would be happy to send out a set of my 8826x Cams to be reground and hang on to your 88222 cams for myself 
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Re: 2TG valve springs
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Sat, 25 May 2002 14:41
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OK thanks. If its only exchange, I will wait till I have 2 cars going, and some money.
I am thinking I'll get new valve springs now, get regrind cams later, then stuff with the carbie jets to suit, and get the 3T bottom end after that, and stuff with the carbie jets again to suit.
If all your motors run regrind cams, why would you need any 88222 cams over 88260 ones? The difference would be small, plus you would not even use them? With regrind cams, the lift is alot lower right, so it should rev better without valve bounce? I am thinking I want it very streetable, but for the odd rally/track day, like 290 degrees, as Andrew Vibert said.
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Club President
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Re: 2TG valve springs
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Sun, 26 May 2002 06:43
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Jonny,
Mate I won't use and Stock 2TG cams but I know a guy that races in Historics class and a set of 88222 cams will be the final touch to his engine plans. As far as factory 2TG cams they have the highest lift.
With Historics they are pretty strict on what you can and can't use.
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Tasmania
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May 2002
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Re: 2TG valve springs
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Sun, 26 May 2002 15:14
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ok. I am wondering how much lift I would loose going to regrind cams. Maybe you could get your 88260 cams reground for me and sent down. And I can send you my 88222 cams. I'm short of money this mounth, but will be looking at doing this sometime soon. Also new double springs and shims.
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New Zealand
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May 2002
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Re: 2TG valve springs
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Mon, 27 May 2002 08:36
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Use 2TGEU springs, as they are double springs standard 
Karl
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Re: 2TG valve springs
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Tue, 28 May 2002 14:08
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Jonny Mate I'm happy to pass my cams on for you.
Depending on how big a cam you want there are two ways they do it. The cheap option is just a basic regrind and your tappets will need thicker shims.
The expensive way (for BIG cams) is to get them welded up reground and hard faced. this way the base circle stays the same size as they add metal before they grind the new profile. Mind you your up for around $700 for this option !!!
Let me know when your ready. Costs me nothing other than an hours sleep to go drop off my set at Graham's 
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Re: 2TG valve springs
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Wed, 29 May 2002 03:26
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How much money am I looking at for basic regrind cams? Since you have a cam grinder lined up, it may be a good option to let you get it done for me. I will have to let the new month tick over and get my finances more stable again.
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Re: 2TG valve springs
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Wed, 29 May 2002 11:42
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Jonny,
Last set I had done were a very mild set about 18 months ago (Tina's) they cost me $150. I priced up a slightly bigger set just last week for a mate and they were $180 so I would work on that. Once you know what profile you want we can get an exact price depending on who does it
Don't forget you'll need your shims redone. As a guide a Drive in and Drive out change over for a 2TG from Graham will set you back around $700. That includes the cost of the cams plus the new shims. The rest is labour as it is a time consuming exercise to get the shim unders set just right !
Just say the word mate happy to help out
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Re: 2TG valve springs
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Wed, 29 May 2002 15:07
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I am a trained mechanic and do everything on my car/engine myself. All I need is the parts, and I can work out the shims. I will need access to shims though, not a problem yet. I am after a streetable/ rally / race grind that will give good power. I will let you know soon and get you to get the cams done, then you can have my 88222 cams.
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Re: 2TG valve springs
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Sun, 25 August 2002 15:20
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OK, I am almost ready now. I need power! And will do this first with camshafts. I want something cheap and wild
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Re: 2TG valve springs
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Sun, 25 August 2002 23:41
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Jonny,
To acheive cheap and wild you should consider the Cosworth L1 Grind. Thats what I had fitted to Tina's for the last Dyno Day.
76 KW at the rear wheels is not bad from a 2TG. Anything bigger than the L1 and you are up for builing up and re working the lobes as opposed to a regrind. With The Cosworth L1's you will require thicker shims and your piston to valve clearances will have to be closely watched during assembly. Cam timing can avoid this a little but you don't want to end up with a badly timed cam just to clear the pistons.
The L1 Grind had 410 Tho Lift and 240 Degrees duration at 50 Tho.
Do you have the 3T crank installed ? The extra capacity is really needed to support this cam in my opinion. Otherwise it would be too guttless at low RPM.
Hope that helps,
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