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MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Wed, 20 October 2004 10:11 Go to next message
Hi everyone
Just thought I would introduce myself(or my car anyway)
I have just completed a 9 month build with the above engine specs.

Geeze, talk about frustrating.

Its a practically stock MA61.
1UZ-FE Lexus quad cam V8.
Custom Exhaust.
Super-Pro Bushes throughout.
Blitz Air Cleaner.
Auto

Soon to have
Custom interior
Supercharger/Turbo's
Mags (only hotwires at the moment)
Wider Tyres (having some problems with traction)
Aftermarket ECU.

If anyone has any questions, do not hesitate to ask.

I might meet some of you on the next cruise, I will come along and say hello.

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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Wed, 20 October 2004 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sounds like hot stuff Smile
an FI 1uz-fe is my dream powerplant for my ma61
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Wed, 20 October 2004 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sounds like a pretty cool car.

You got some pics to show off?? Very Happy

Nothing beats an old car retro-fitted with a newer donk. Pure class! I can't wait to get my conversion happening.

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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 21 October 2004 00:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Very very cool... I've been waiting for someone to do this conversion in an MA61! As above, post some pics if you can. If you don't have access to a digital camera I can help you out there (I'm from Brisbane too).
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 21 October 2004 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey, you finally made it on to Toymods.
If you want I can upload those pics you sent me the other week.

And so everyone knows, its a black 1986 p-type with sunroof.
The best of the best!
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 21 October 2004 00:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CrUZsida wrote on Thu, 21 October 2004 10:42


And so everyone knows, its a black 1986 p-type with sunroof.
The best of the best!


Verrrrrry close....its not manual.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 21 October 2004 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah pics would be great.....

Were the mounts fairly easy? Were there any clearance ussues?

Ive always loved the idea of a 1uzfe powered ma61....

Its bound to be my next project after the 1jz is finished....

Good work Very Happy
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 21 October 2004 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey

Sounds cool... I was considering it when I was planning mine but decided to go the tried and true 1JZ option. And please, please, please tell me there are pics coming.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 21 October 2004 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My advice would be to work on the brakes/handling/rims/rubber situation all at once, and with some planning - upgrade all of these as MUCH as possible, THEN work the engine over Evil or Very Mad
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 21 October 2004 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pics as per the requests

http://www.conceptual.net.au/~peewee/50UPD/uza61_01.jpg

http://www.conceptual.net.au/~peewee/50UPD/uza61_02.jpg

http://www.conceptual.net.au/~peewee/50UPD/uza61_03.jpg

http://www.conceptual.net.au/~peewee/50UPD/uza61_04.jpg

http://www.conceptual.net.au/~peewee/50UPD/uza61_05.jpg

http://www.conceptual.net.au/~peewee/50UPD/uza61_06.jpg

http://www.conceptual.net.au/~peewee/50UPD/uza61_07.jpg

http://www.conceptual.net.au/~peewee/50UPD/uza61_08.jpg

http://www.conceptual.net.au/~peewee/50UPD/uza61_09.jpg

http://www.conceptual.net.au/~peewee/50UPD/uza61_10.jpg

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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 21 October 2004 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just wondering if i could buy the black interior off you when you go custom?
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 21 October 2004 21:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sweeeeet.

Looks like it was always meant to be there !!!

Looks like a possible future conversion when I have had enough of the 7M Very Happy

Agree with teh earlier sentiments of doing the brakes/tyres/handling before searching for more grunt. The weight distribution before and after would be interesting as the 1UZ wiould be heaps lighter than the 7M-GTE ?

With the R154 box in there, it would be a bulletproof package !!!
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 21 October 2004 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nice work! That's the third or fourth one I have heard of now. Looks like it was meant to be there.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 21 October 2004 23:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm liking it, a lot!
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 21 October 2004 23:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just enough balance of blue bling for you norbie? Cool
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Fri, 22 October 2004 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It's all about the bling.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Fri, 22 October 2004 03:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Does the A/C work on it or is it disconnected? Interesting... *Note to self - Must hurry up, put on Saturday Tattslotto

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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Fri, 22 October 2004 03:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Any other thing, how do you change the spark plugs?
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Fri, 22 October 2004 03:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ZZT231 wrote on Fri, 22 October 2004 11:09

Any other thing, how do you change the spark plugs?

What do you mean? There is plenty of room to change the plugs
No more difficult than any other 1uz.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Fri, 22 October 2004 05:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Air con has been disconnected for the moment in the search for power.
But now that its summer I am starting to regret throwing all the a/c setup away.(wasnt deliberate, just got into the clean-up too much)

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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Fri, 22 October 2004 05:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ZZT231 wrote on Fri, 22 October 2004 13:09

Any other thing, how do you change the spark plugs?


The spark plugs are under the ribbed black panel with toyota on it.

Much easier to get to than an old OHV V8.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Fri, 22 October 2004 06:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Joshstix wrote on Fri, 22 October 2004 15:43

ZZT231 wrote on Fri, 22 October 2004 13:09

Any other thing, how do you change the spark plugs?


The spark plugs are under the ribbed black panel with toyota on it.

Much easier to get to than an old OHV V8.


Oh sorry... I thought it was like the Holden V8s where they are hard to change close to the wall Embarassed . I am thinking of doing a 1UZ conversion on the MA61 but my brother is wanting me to go 2JZ... I still love my 5M-E anyway.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Fri, 22 October 2004 06:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ZZT231 wrote on Fri, 22 October 2004 14:07

I still love my 5M-E anyway.

Nobody loves teh 5m-e

Go the 1uz, you won't regret it.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Fri, 22 October 2004 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Holy shit that's tough. Apart from the classy "Blue Bling" the installation looks factory. Lighter, tougher, newer, a damn sight more powerful, have you found any negatives so far? BTW, an Eaton style supercharger sitting in the valley would top it off nicely ( Wouldn't help the traction problem too much though).
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Fri, 22 October 2004 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ahh...youd be the fella at bayside mufflers a few weeks ago when my dads jag was being done?!!
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Fri, 22 October 2004 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
one of the best looking ma61's ive seen
black is best on them
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Sat, 23 October 2004 08:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
saw it at bwcp last night... thought nothing of it... its too quiet... or maybe the ricers had there music up too loud last night... either way... very nice!
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Mon, 25 October 2004 01:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
could you give a good idea of the dimensions, and don't say 700mm cube( damn you norbie!) did you have any clearance troubles, like exhaust? what half-cut did you get? i'm going to get mine for my mx22 mark 2 coupe soon(next 6 months definately). was mounting a bitch or easy as pie?
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Mon, 25 October 2004 01:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Exhaust is only clearance issue, but that differs from car to car.
Motor has to come forward by 1" to clear sump (front sump on ma61, I'm not sure what an mx22 uses)
Half cut doesnt really matter, you can get sumps elsewhere

Most of your questions are answered in the UZX73 thread.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 28 October 2004 03:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Very Nice! I'm in the middle of doing the same thing thanks to Peewee's help. Since it looks like it's connected, I am curious where the cruise control actuator is? Thats been kinda challenging me how to hook up. We US spec supras had ours back by the brake booster.
Again VERY NICE Very Happy
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 28 October 2004 03:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Supra's Cruise Control Actuator hold the pedal, not the butterfly.

So nothing changes with an engine conversion, providing you have enough vacuum to keep the throttle open.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 28 October 2004 03:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
This is a great looking car - well done.
Can you please enlighten me on the combination of engine mounts / brackets / crossmember you used here ?
And what if any mods to the gearbox crossmember you needed to do ?
Thanks,
Mitch.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 28 October 2004 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CrUZsida wrote on Wed, 27 October 2004 22:31

Supra's Cruise Control Actuator hold the pedal, not the butterfly.

So nothing changes with an engine conversion, providing you have enough vacuum to keep the throttle open.


Sorry, I meant where the actuator itself is, here in the states our's sits right where the windshield washer tank is. And cable runs from it to the throttle. Just curious where it sits.
By the way, photo shop found my pics and I should have them tomorrow Very Happy
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 28 October 2004 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
elhsupra wrote on Thu, 28 October 2004 20:30

Sorry, I meant where the actuator itself is, here in the states our's sits right where the windshield washer tank is. And cable runs from it to the throttle. Just curious where it sits.
By the way, photo shop found my pics and I should have them tomorrow Very Happy

There

Top Left

Same place as your, but opposite side.

http://www.conceptual.net.au/~peewee/50UPD/uza61_09.jpg

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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 28 October 2004 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks! Don't know how I missed.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Wed, 12 January 2005 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ra23celica wrote on Thu, 28 October 2004 13:55

This is a great looking car - well done.
Can you please enlighten me on the combination of engine mounts / brackets / crossmember you used here ?
And what if any mods to the gearbox crossmember you needed to do ?
Thanks,
Mitch.


Yeah I'd love to know this too! Any clearance issues or other major dramas (other than headers clearance)?
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Wed, 12 January 2005 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
buccy wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 21:38

ra23celica wrote on Thu, 28 October 2004 13:55

This is a great looking car - well done.
Can you please enlighten me on the combination of engine mounts / brackets / crossmember you used here ?
And what if any mods to the gearbox crossmember you needed to do ?
Thanks,
Mitch.


Yeah I'd love to know this too! Any clearance issues or other major dramas (other than headers clearance)?

There wont be.

header-steering shaft clearance will be the only issue.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Wed, 12 January 2005 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey cruzsida did he use your mounts?
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Motor has to come forward by 1" to clear sump

Does this mean a custom gearbox mount and tailshaft?
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Wed, 12 January 2005 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nah, I didn't know my mounts could be used for Supra's then.

I will be working out gbox mounts when I start mine.
As for the tailshaft, my cressida one hasn't been lengthened by an inch yet.
She's doing ok.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Wed, 12 January 2005 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What did you do with the gearbox mount in the crusida?
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I will be working out gbox mounts when I start mine.

Cool I'll try and start at the same time so any problems I can just ask you Very Happy
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Wed, 12 January 2005 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Everything will be sorted by the time the mounts are ready for sale.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Wed, 12 January 2005 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It's funny this thread should re-appear... I came across this car a few weekends ago on the M1 motorway (between Brisbane and the Gold Coast for those interstate), which I happened to be travelling on late on a Saturday night... locals will have some idea what I was doing there. Wink

Anyway, to cut a long story short I came saw a black Mk2 with a distinct V8 exhaust note and the plates 50UPD, but I completely forgot the dude had posted here until I saw this thread just now!

And for the record, 1UZ-FE vs 2JZ-GTE was a fairly one-sided battle, although the V8 torque did get a car length on me before the turbos kicked in. Very Happy
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Wed, 12 January 2005 14:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 22:38

And for the record, 1UZ-FE vs 2JZ-GTE was a fairly one-sided battle, although the V8 torque did get a car length on me before the turbos kicked in. Very Happy


Yeah, its amazing what 150hp advantage can do.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 13 January 2005 03:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tidy looking conversion.

Now for the SC kit so you can whoop Norbie's butt Smile

TTs would be nice but that was tight enough for me and i had heaps of room, i can't see the room for you to try?
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 13 January 2005 03:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Great another V8 supra!

Can I put it on my www.v8supra.com website?


Can you give us some more info on the aftermarket ECU? Like why you needed the factory AFM?
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 13 January 2005 03:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
He is using the factory ecu.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 13 January 2005 05:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ahhh "soon to have"

kinda read over that bit, or mixed it up.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 13 January 2005 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JustenGT4 wrote on Thu, 13 January 2005 13:04

TTs would be nice but that was tight enough for me and i had heaps of room, i can't see the room for you to try?

MA61 engine bays are pretty long... I reckon a pair of turbos could be squeezed in up front, wouldn't be easy though.
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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Thu, 13 January 2005 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie wrote on Thu, 13 January 2005 17:08

JustenGT4 wrote on Thu, 13 January 2005 13:04

TTs would be nice but that was tight enough for me and i had heaps of room, i can't see the room for you to try?

MA61 engine bays are pretty long... I reckon a pair of turbos could be squeezed in up front, wouldn't be easy though.



There is a twin turbo 1UZFE in a JZA80 Supra over here in WA, second hand information tells me he swapped the exhaust manifolds around from each bank so they pointed forward.

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Re: MA61 + 1UZ-FE = 50UPD Tue, 22 March 2005 13:10 Go to previous message
I Have fitted a few 1UZ's now and 2 of these were in MA61's
and although I have not fitted turbo's it looks real easy as if the battery was moved to the boot you have room for some pretty big turbo's in the front corners of the engine bay.
May be I will have to try with my UZX-073 Evil or Very Mad
anyway good conversion they go good don't they Very Happy

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P.S the weight balance on the eng report is 52%F 48%R hows that Cool
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