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Banned user
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To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 04:07
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Banned user
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Liverpool NSW
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March 2004
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Re: To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 04:35
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Keep in mind more front weight, more understear the car has.
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 04:37
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Any of the above has more than enough power to turn the wheels. If you think one engine will make you a better drifter than the other, think again.
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Banned user
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Liverpool NSW
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March 2004
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Re: To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 04:40
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When did i say that?, im tossing between one of these, i was thinking on a 13bt with a v mount, but reving a 12a past 10,000 rpm is so fun.
Problably the sr20det would be more realiable
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 05:19
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And what does any of that have to do with drifting? That was kind of my point... 
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Banned user
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Liverpool NSW
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March 2004
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Re: To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 05:34
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Use your imagination.
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Banned user
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Liverpool NSW
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March 2004
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Re: To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 05:38
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I took 20btt off, 5gran just for the engine is over my budget
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Sydney
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May 2003
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Re: To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 08:08
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and whats wrong with a 4agze ?
or even just the 4age
dont need turbo to drift ya know
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Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 08:13
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go the 13B,if you can afford it,is it going to be strictly for track?if so get a fukk off bridge/monsta port...nothing sounds angrier then a lumpy rotor 
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Sydney
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May 2003
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Melbourne
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June 2004
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Banned user
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Liverpool NSW
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March 2004
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Re: To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 09:50
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| 4DaDrift wrote on Thu, 21 October 2004 18:08 |
and whats wrong with a 4agze ?
or even just the 4age
dont need turbo to drift ya know
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Supercharger swicths off
Decent turbo upgrade suffers from lag (unless running some sort of anti lag)
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Banned user
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Liverpool NSW
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March 2004
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Re: To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 09:56
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hmmm, everyone seems to be going for the 3sgte and sr20det
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I supported Toymods
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Plumpton/sydney
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November 2003
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Re: To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 11:22
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I love toyotas but the sr20 is the best option, you can get every bolt on accessory for it and when built right they can produce upto 1000ponies
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Adelaide
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May 2002
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Re: To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 11:49
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Y'know bubbles,
Rex has been a keen reader of many of your posts. They were interesting in the beginning, not due to their incredible technical or discussionary (its a word, trust Rex ) merit, but simply because you, my friend are sorely misguided.
The novelty though is wearing thin.
Rex
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Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Perth
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September 2004
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Re: To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 12:50
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| bubbles wrote on Thu, 21 October 2004 17:50 |
Supercharger swicths off
Decent turbo upgrade suffers from lag (unless running some sort of anti lag)
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Actually, a supercharger only switches off if you let it. That's by design of the stock 4A-GZE, not an inherent supercharger thing - I've actually been thinking of installing a three-way switch (full off/auto/full on) for mine. Full off would be good for wet weather and better fuel economy (it chews it up something chronic when you're boosting), full on would be for messing around when I don't want to lose boost.
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Coffs Harbour
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September 2002
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Re: To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 13:36
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Put your right foot down in a 4AGZE powered car and i can assure you that the supercharger will most definately NOT switch off.
Take your foot back off the gogo juice and of course the supercharger will have a nap as it was intended.
Regards Superaw11.
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: To B or not to B
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Thu, 21 October 2004 13:58
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Draven always loves to read Rex's posts. They always bring a smile to his face, especially when clueless newbies get their just deserts for asking repetitively frivilous questions
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May 2002
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Re: To B or not to B
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Fri, 22 October 2004 06:48
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Geez, some tough choices there. How does the "peritpheal" port compare to say a peripheral port or a bridgeport????
Is there much of an issue with overlap and boost when the rotary engine is peritpheally ported??
The peritpheal port is really starting to grow on me. 
Why hold back, your first posts on this forum talked about bigger carbies on the 4AC etc, then various forms of the 4A.
You have learnt much my son........
You have progressed in your aspirations to own power, look to the future, skip the next few phases you are likely to go through and go quad-rotor!!!
Paint da sprintah purplez and get da hektik plates BARB-86, be partz of da krew m8.
Seriously though do what ever you want, I dont understand why the 4AGTE doesn't rate a mention though (or the 4AGE/ZE if you are drifting, plenty of people do damn well with those engines).
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Supercharger swicths off
Decent turbo upgrade suffers from lag (unless running some sort of anti lag)
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Sounds like you are making some well informed decisions anyway
Good luck with all that...........
[Updated on: Sat, 23 October 2004 07:31]
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November 2002
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Re: To B or not to B
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Fri, 22 October 2004 07:18
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I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public.
I voted 3S purely because it's toyo. As for everything else. Rex makes Greenie smile at Draven smiling at Rex.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: To B or not to B
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Fri, 22 October 2004 07:37
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| clubagreenie wrote on Fri, 22 October 2004 17:18 |
Rex makes Greenie smile at Draven smiling at Rex.
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Form a circle!! Form a circle!! 
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1st street on the right
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November 2002
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Re: To B or not to B
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Fri, 22 October 2004 07:44
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Don't you mean form an intervention group to find out where my parts are
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ghetto area 2745
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November 2003
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Re: To B or not to B
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Fri, 22 October 2004 23:05
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bubbles put what ever you want in it
if it goes sideways and makes a lot of noise then do it
i would go rotary ..at 11000rpm no one can hear you scream
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Banned user
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Liverpool NSW
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March 2004
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Re: To B or not to B
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Sat, 23 October 2004 08:35
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Ok, him getting all these negative responses.
First all ask yourselves
What makes a good drift car?
Experience of the person
LSD
Maybe a quick rack
and of course a 4agze would help allot.
But what if you wanted to go one step close to the D1 drivers?
But why does the little 4age compete with high powered silvias, skylines,etc.
A lot of people have told me "oh, they're lite cars, lite cars drift good" or "your always on the torque band, i let the revs drop on my s13 during drift"
Yes, they are lite cars
Yes, to drift with the 4age you need the revs up during clutch in.
But what about Car balance?
Drifting is all physics and experience, not power.
What would happen if the front was heavier than the back? understeer, the 300zx from the drift nats 2 was a good example
on how heavier fronts can make a car drift like shit, no matter how much or less experience you have, while the jdm levin can drift into a corner maintaining speed and throttle, BALANCE.
What is all this go to do with rotors?
Liter engines, reaches boost faster, has more cooling properties.
Im not looking for a FUllY SIK 900hp drifter, just a fast and at the same time a well balance car, 450/450
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Newcastle
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June 2002
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Re: To B or not to B
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Sat, 23 October 2004 16:39
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dude, you've got issues.
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Location:
Gold Coast
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October 2002
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Re: To B or not to B
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Sun, 24 October 2004 02:40
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I think all of those engines would perform poorly compared to a 4ac with a weber and motec (or microtech whatever you said when someone last let you near a computer.)
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I supported Toymods
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Re: To B or not to B
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Sun, 24 October 2004 03:47
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My cat's breath smells like cat food.
The doctor said I wouldn't get so many nose bleeds if I kept my finger out of there.
It tastes like burning.
You touched my special area.
Hello Supernintendo Chalmers!
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I think Ralph Wiggum > bubbles.
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: To B or not to B
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Sun, 24 October 2004 04:02
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poor fella.
bubbles: I think you should listen to some of these people's suggestions. Firstly, I would ditch any rotary except a 13bt because they will rev to the shithouse but they just don't make much torque and that is what you need to spin the wheels.
Have you said what car you have? I am assuming sprinter?
If so, 4agze is obviously a good option as it has been done before and you would think it would be a bit cheaper than an sr20. I didn't pick 3s-gte because of the rwd layout. Bit of stuffing around to convert it.
If you want more power than a 4agze then you turbo it. But as others have said it is not all about power.
Maybe you should try drag racing  (I am)
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Adelaide
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May 2002
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Re: To B or not to B
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Sun, 24 October 2004 04:36
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| gianttomato wrote on Sun, 24 October 2004 13:17 |
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My cat's breath smells like cat food.
The doctor said I wouldn't get so many nose bleeds if I kept my finger out of there.
It tastes like burning.
You touched my special area.
Hello Supernintendo Chalmers!
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I think Ralph Wiggum > bubbles.
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GOLD!
The obvious engine choice is the 3SGTE Peritpheal, you'll get 15% drift.
But seroiusly Bubbles, spouting a ream of shite you heard somewhere about torque bands, physics, balance, experience, LSD's and quick-racks leaves you a long, long way away from understanding handling attriubutes.
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Yes, to drift with the 4age you need the revs up during clutch in.
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See!, What in the name of greek buggery does that mean?
It used to be Nintendo and trading-cards the kiddies wanted, now its drift and AE86.
It makes Rex sad  .
Dont pay less and come to harm, come and see Autobarn!!!
[Updated on: Sun, 24 October 2004 05:11]
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Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Location:
Castle Hill, Sydney
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February 2004
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Re: To B or not to B
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Sun, 24 October 2004 07:08
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note to self:
ignore all future posts made by bubbles
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Banned user
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Liverpool NSW
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March 2004
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Re: To B or not to B
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Sun, 24 October 2004 07:34
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I dont really care what you guys have to say. Im not very good at speaking english. save your critics when im finished with the conversion and dont worry, I wont be in this forum for very long
Dori Dori was wrong, 3sgte makes a great 86 drifter
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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August 2002
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Re: To B or not to B
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Sun, 24 October 2004 07:38
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i think he means when you clutch in to e brake, you need to blip throttle to keep the rev in a useable power band.
but thats only for ebrake
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Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Re: To B or not to B
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Sun, 24 October 2004 09:28
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| ae86drift wrote on Sun, 24 October 2004 17:38 |
i think he means when you clutch in to e brake, you need to blip throttle to keep the rev in a useable power band.
but thats only for ebrake
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Ahhhh... Me understandy.
I reckon a blacktop 20V with a GT28 turbo would be the go 
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Adelaide
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June 2003
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Re: To B or not to B
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Sun, 24 October 2004 10:58
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da rotorz are the sick mate for da dr!f7
for sure bro port the rotor and bang on da rev limita all dayz long, fuk da ag, if u got da killa skilz u can handl da powah bro, just boost it and u have so much mid range talk yew will have da tailz out all ova da shop. hetcik. i have da 13b turbs in my fc phear the powah of the rotang
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Re: To B or not to B
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Tue, 09 November 2004 12:21
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I cant believe people like this exist. he he
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