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AW11 Concepts and Product range Pics Thu, 21 October 2004 05:29 Go to next message
Here's some photos I took in the Library section of the Toyota Motor Museum in Nagoya...

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~hashiriya/images/aw11-concepts.jpg

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~hashiriya/images/aw11-range-01.jpg

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~hashiriya/images/aw11-range-02.jpg
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Re: AW11 Concepts and Product range Pics Thu, 21 October 2004 06:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Awesome.

I want the spolier off that white concept drawing. I think that plain little black spoiler on the edge of the boot lid looks awesome. I wish they had have stuck with the side vents on the concept drawing and had them on both sides.

Did you get any pics of actual AW11's in the museum?
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Re: AW11 Concepts and Product range Pics Thu, 21 October 2004 07:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nah... they did not have a single mr2 in the Museum... maybe not quite classic enough yet!
I did get lots of pics of old celicas and rollas that would make a lot of the guys on these forums drool...
maybe I'll post some if there is the demand!
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Re: AW11 Concepts and Product range Pics Thu, 21 October 2004 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: AW11 Concepts and Product range Pics Thu, 21 October 2004 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
its almost got the toymods symbol on the steering wheel
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Re: AW11 Concepts and Product range Pics Thu, 21 October 2004 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Great pictures Feral,that must be the SA-X 1979 prototype.
I would kill to get my hands on that thing. Evil or Very Mad
I really like the look of that car as it smells seriously of lotus.I think the final design looks a little more reserved than the prototype which has a sort of italian bertone design look. Cool

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Re: AW11 Concepts and Product range Pics Thu, 21 October 2004 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It looks like a lotus because it was going to be a lotus!!!
There are so many things that show how toyota and lotus were developing a mid-engined 2-door 1600cc twin-cam engined 2seater car. And then it got canned. Or toyota decided to bring it back a few years later as a full toyota production vehicle.

Another funny thing is lotus actually used tail lights of an ae86 on a 1994 esprit.
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Re: AW11 Concepts and Product range Pics Thu, 21 October 2004 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Quote from website below.
http://www.gglotus.org/ggrace/ggfaq/group.html

Is the first-generation Toyota MR2 a Lotus?
The first-generation MR2 was introduced during a period of close cooperation between Lotus and Toyota. The Lotus Eclat was reworked with some Toyota parts to make the Excel during this period. Toyota was also involved in design and specifcation of the M90/X100 prototype.

There are two rumors about Lotus' involvement with the MR2. The "official" rumor is that the MR2 was designed "in-house" at Toyota by Lotus suspension engineer Roger Becker. The other rumor is that the MR2 was an abandoned Lotus design (possibly the M90/X100).

According to Doc Bundy, Lotusport Esprit driver, the MR2 is the X100
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And from this site below.
http://www.mr2.com/TEXT/LotusX100.txt

Date: Sat, 19 Apr 97 23:32:22 UT
From: "Todd Anderbery" <xwiredtva@msn.com>
Subject: Mr2 Info

The reason I'm e-mailing you is I thought you might be interested in knowing
that the MKI first generation Mr2 is actually an abandoned Lotus model that
was then sold to Toyota and redesigned for metric and mass production by
Lotus. I have the proof. The Mr2 real name is the Lotus X100. When I learned
this I called Group Lotus in England and spoke to a public relations fellow
who said he would answer my question off the record and say yes but would deny
anything out of respect for Toyota. The deal they made in 1984 was to never
divoulge any info that this was an actual Lotus(British) design for fear no
one would purchase such a vehical, British cars had major problems at the
time.

Just thought you'd like to know,
Todd V. Anderbery
xwiredtva@msn.com

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Regardless of the factualness of the above 2 links the fact is that the aw11 was definately a Toyota\Lotus co production and ohh does it show in the driving dynamics. Evil or Very Mad

Regards Superaw11.

[Updated on: Thu, 21 October 2004 15:04]

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Re: AW11 Concepts and Product range Pics Thu, 21 October 2004 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If any further proof is needed check out the pics at this site.
http://python.rice.edu/~arb/arbmotorsports/elan90. htm

This car is the LOTUS M90\X100 prototype which was never released by Lotus.

These are pics of the Lotus M90 prototype which sports a 4age motor with t50 gearbox and all toyota running gear and brakes etc.

If that is not a very slightly modified aw11 dash and console i give up.

Cheers.

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Re: AW11 Concepts and Product range Pics Sat, 23 October 2004 21:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
In the pics it even has the supra 15" rims!

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Re: AW11 Concepts and Product range Pics Mon, 25 October 2004 06:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
adamb131 wrote on Thu, 21 October 2004 17:15

Nah... they did not have a single mr2 in the Museum... maybe not quite classic enough yet!
I did get lots of pics of old celicas and rollas that would make a lot of the guys on these forums drool...
maybe I'll post some if there is the demand!


Please post the pics of any other cool Rolla's etc from the museum. Actually how many pics are there? If you like we might be able to get them hosted up on the Toymods website.
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Re: AW11 Concepts and Product range Pics Mon, 25 October 2004 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You should also get yourself in a lotus esprit and check out similarities in those dashes.
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Re: AW11 Concepts and Product range Pics Mon, 25 October 2004 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Here's one... from Hino

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~hashiriya/images/hino.jpg
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Re: AW11 Concepts and Product range Pics Mon, 25 October 2004 11:09 Go to previous message
http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~hashiriya/images/sillycar.jpg
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