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4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Sun, 24 October 2004 08:58 Go to next message
hi all i just bought a set of adjustale cam gears how do i adjusthttp://www.billzilla.org/cm.jpg

there the center ones

thanks all
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Sun, 24 October 2004 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
by the look of them you have to use the dowel and actually remove them from the cam to adjust. not a good idea to adjust yourself if you dont really know how too.

if adjusted wrong or moving the cam belt, you can basically screw your engine up. the valves could hit the piston and boom, there goes a 4ag
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Sun, 24 October 2004 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so i have to take out the dowel doesnt really make look right how would i stop the belt from spin around without the pin
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Sun, 24 October 2004 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hehehehhe, u have to remove the pin and slightly move the cam slightly, i mean very slightly, for u see the holes in the cam and gears are slightly offset from each other,

never will 2 holes line up at the same time, it will look close but just slightly off, then when the next set of holes it lined up just put the pin in, tightne the bolts ect, and remove the spark plugs and turn the engine by hand, if it gets difficult to move or just stops, then the valves are hitting the pistons, the reason u remove the plugs is so u dont mistake the compression stroke for valve interference.

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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Sun, 24 October 2004 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so the pin comes out and the u adjust it to a degree and the put the pin in from the other side of the cam gear

i hope i get it pls correct me
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Sun, 24 October 2004 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
its called "vernier" adjustment, you take out the dowell pin, adjust the position where you want it, then put the pin back in the hole where the hole lines up, it could be any hole!
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Sun, 24 October 2004 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bert wrote on Sun, 24 October 2004 18:37

by the look of them you have to use the dowel and actually remove them from the cam to adjust. not a good idea to adjust yourself if you dont really know how too.

if adjusted wrong or moving the cam belt, you can basically screw your engine up. the valves could hit the piston and boom, there goes a 4ag



incorrect, the 4age is a non interferance motor
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Sun, 24 October 2004 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Simon-AE86 wrote on Sun, 24 October 2004 22:13

Bert wrote on Sun, 24 October 2004 18:37

by the look of them you have to use the dowel and actually remove them from the cam to adjust. not a good idea to adjust yourself if you dont really know how too.

if adjusted wrong or moving the cam belt, you can basically screw your engine up. the valves could hit the piston and boom, there goes a 4ag



incorrect, the 4age is a non interferance motor


ding! correct!
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Sun, 24 October 2004 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Simon-AE86 wrote on Sun, 24 October 2004 21:43

Bert wrote on Sun, 24 October 2004 18:37

by the look of them you have to use the dowel and actually remove them from the cam to adjust. not a good idea to adjust yourself if you dont really know how too.

if adjusted wrong or moving the cam belt, you can basically screw your engine up. the valves could hit the piston and boom, there goes a 4ag



incorrect, the 4age is a non interferance motor


The 4AGE was designed well to allow for timing belt snappage and noobs that like to fiddle with things that they dont know about Razz
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Sun, 24 October 2004 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes, like ya typical corolla driver Laughing
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Sun, 24 October 2004 20:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so if you know this garth, how did you "distroy" your 4age when you snapped the belt Wink
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Sun, 24 October 2004 23:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so no one knows how to adjust these gears am i correct
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Mon, 25 October 2004 01:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dude, read Mr DOHC's post, that's how you adjust them. What you should adjust them to is a completely different story though.

Anyone got any good links on optimum cam timing for a 4AGE? It's obviously going to change depending on engine mods, but what are the basic principles? More overlap means worse idle, but better fill at high RPM? Someone enlighten us Very Happy
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Mon, 25 October 2004 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Simon-AE86 wrote on Sun, 24 October 2004 22:13

Bert wrote on Sun, 24 October 2004 18:37

by the look of them you have to use the dowel and actually remove them from the cam to adjust. not a good idea to adjust yourself if you dont really know how too.

if adjusted wrong or moving the cam belt, you can basically screw your engine up. the valves could hit the piston and boom, there goes a 4ag



incorrect, the 4age is a non interferance motor


Babow.. Most 4AGEs are non-interferance. I have just managed to create one which isnt.
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Mon, 25 October 2004 01:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
?

High-lift cams? Flat top pistons?
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Mon, 25 October 2004 02:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i realise what ur saying its a differnt story on how much and how do u what i was replying was saying is that if i just move it to the next hole that moves it about 10 degrees at a time so i was really questioning his answer to my topic
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Mon, 25 October 2004 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
His answer is correct, it's just kind of dificult to explain/visualise. You need to look at the position of the teeth relative to the dowel, you might rotate the whole gear 10 degrees, but that might only move the teeth a few degrees one direction relative to the dowel.

Keep in mind that you need to keep the cam belt (pretty much) stationary and rotate the gear on its own.

[Updated on: Mon, 25 October 2004 02:19]

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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Mon, 25 October 2004 03:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so what u saying is that u retart or advance the timing (meaning cam shaft)
then u spin the gear to tell u find a spot where the dowel fits back in


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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Mon, 25 October 2004 03:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yah, that's probably a better way of thinking about it.
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Re: 4age adjustable cam gears how do u adjust Mon, 25 October 2004 03:24 Go to previous message
thanks man
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