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bowlsclubboy
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W58 into 1jz cressie Mon, 25 October 2004 10:28 Go to next message
Hey guys, Im considering swapping my old 7mGe for a mates W58 box. How long could i expect it to last in my 1jz Mx83? (i dont drive my car too hard atm but i know that would probably all change if it was a manual lol) Its sort of a hard question to answer i know, but i dont wanna be rebuilding a gearbox in a few months after having so many farking automatic problems...Would this box handle much of a power increase if any?

-Cheers, Troy

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Re: W58 into 1jz cressie Mon, 25 October 2004 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bowlsclubboy wrote on Mon, 25 October 2004 20:28

Hey guys, Im considering swapping my old 7m for a W58 box.

er..you want to replace an engine with a gearbox? Laughing

the w58 will hold up fine behind a 1j as has been proven many times. just as long as you dont abuse it.
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Re: W58 into 1jz cressie Mon, 25 October 2004 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
damnit youre too quick lol! i edited it about 10 seconds later and you had already posted Very Happy
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Re: W58 into 1jz cressie Mon, 25 October 2004 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just use some nice oil, and don't miss gears, you'll be fine.

My W57 has copped 1uz power and torque for 3 months, including a lot of abuse.
I don't think it will break anytime soon.

For the cost of a replacement, I wouldn't be worried about breaking anything.
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Re: W58 into 1jz cressie Mon, 25 October 2004 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hehe, I can vouch for the victimisation of said W57 Laughing
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Re: W58 into 1jz cressie Mon, 25 October 2004 14:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ask norbie how they go Smile
although his copped a 2j
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Re: W58 into 1jz cressie Mon, 25 October 2004 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It also copped it for 18months (or so)

And only failed on a 3rd gear flat change.
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Re: W58 into 1jz cressie Mon, 25 October 2004 22:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The W57 didn't last anywhere near as long though... and I was treating it gently!

I'd be a bit concerned about a W57 in a heavy car like an MX83 though... but then again they're cheap to replace if you mash it. Smile
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Re: W58 into 1jz cressie Tue, 26 October 2004 10:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
how is a w57 so much weaker to a w58 if you are stripping gearsets?
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Re: W58 into 1jz cressie Wed, 27 October 2004 00:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Alloy sandwich plate = more flex = gears out of alignment = stripped gearsets. That's my theory anyway - I don't know exactly why it broke, but I know it did break and in a much shorter period!
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Re: W58 into 1jz cressie Wed, 27 October 2004 00:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It couldn't have just been the fact the W57 was much older than your W58 and had a harder longer life? That seems a lot more feasible than a alloy sandwich plate flexing enough to misalign the gears.
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Re: W58 into 1jz cressie Wed, 27 October 2004 00:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes the W57 was older, but it had lived behind a 21R-C before I bought it... how hard a life could it have had? Laughing

The sandwich plate holds the entire gearset together, so flexing is definitely going to cause issues... and I think it goes without saying that an alloy plate will be significantly weaker than a steel plate with the same dimensions.
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Re: W58 into 1jz cressie Wed, 27 October 2004 00:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dude, regardless of what is was behind, thing of the km's, and the general neglect, stupidity and everything. I'd still say the sandwich plate flexing isn't likely to be the main cause.
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Re: W58 into 1jz cressie Wed, 27 October 2004 00:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neglect and stupidity would explain dud bearings or shot synchros, but mashed gearsets? How?
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Re: W58 into 1jz cressie Wed, 27 October 2004 00:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey anything is possible given enough stupidity. The calibre of some of the new people here every day is testament to this! Laughing
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Re: W58 into 1jz cressie Wed, 27 October 2004 09:55 Go to previous message
justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 27 October 2004 10:40

Hey anything is possible given enough stupidity. The calibre of some of the new people here every day is testament to this! Laughing


haha refer one post above ^ Laughing
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