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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2003
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Location:
Cabramatta, NSW
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sun, 31 October 2004 05:16
 
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Fark! That looks awesome dude!
What class/series are you racing in?!
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sun, 31 October 2004 06:29
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...Vic State Race Series. Sportssedans 6ltr class
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Location:
ballarat
Registered:
April 2003
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Sun, 31 October 2004 06:35
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wow. very neat 'n tidy 
good luck in the category dude 
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Location:
Ballarat, Vic.
Registered:
September 2002
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sun, 31 October 2004 08:48
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Dude i just messed in my pants! 
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Location:
New Zealand
Registered:
May 2004
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sun, 31 October 2004 09:56
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Very nice. You should be proud of the effort that your've put into that beast.
Just dont get into any dings 
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
February 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sun, 31 October 2004 10:21
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any specs..
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
July 2004
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sun, 31 October 2004 12:33
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can i kiss you 
haha only kidding!
That is one very very nice soarer dude
Kudos to you
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Location:
Potts Point, Sydney
Registered:
October 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sun, 31 October 2004 12:33
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man that is freakin awesome...well done
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sun, 31 October 2004 12:48
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Wow
Awesome car dude
I love it
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sun, 31 October 2004 13:27
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hell yea
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sun, 31 October 2004 22:19
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Some specs on the car are on the sports sedan web site:
http://www.sportssedan.com.au/index.php
Go to driver profiles Cinefx/AVO
Basically, a destroked 7M with a T4,some internal mods,cylinder head and camshaft mods. Intake and exhaust system all custom made. Link plus engine management. To list all of the modifications to the car would take 10 pages and, as you might understand, I need to keep some of it to myself. It puts out an adequate amount of horsepower for circuit racing but is not at the front of the field. The chassis is standard and therefore cannot compete succesfully against the specialist space frame sports sedans that are 300kg lighter. Great fun though!!
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Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sun, 31 October 2004 22:33
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Hi Laurie,
Great car and looks good too.
Great to see a 7M in there !!!
Understanding why some things are kep close to the chest, why and how much did you destroke it ? was it to get under a capacity limit issue ?
I'd love to see it in the flesh, so will have to try and see it at a race meeting.
I'll be in Melbourne from 11 to 15 Dec, are there any outings planned or can I drop by and see it ?
Cheers
Michael B
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Location:
Central Coast, NSW
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sun, 31 October 2004 23:32
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*down on one knee*
Sir, may I have your car's hand in marriage?
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Perth
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Mon, 01 November 2004 00:14
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| bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 01 November 2004 06:33 |
Understanding why some things are kep close to the chest, why and how much did you destroke it ? was it to get under a capacity limit issue ?
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It's 2508cc, work it out for us
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Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Mon, 01 November 2004 00:27
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Mon, 01 November 2004 11:14 |
| bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 01 November 2004 06:33 |
Understanding why some things are kep close to the chest, why and how much did you destroke it ? was it to get under a capacity limit issue ?
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It's 2508cc, work it out for us
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By my crappy calcs, it has been destroked from 90.98mm to 77.25 if it retains the std bore ?
Must rev like the bejesus and still pump out 330rwkW
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Location:
Ballarat, Victoria
Registered:
March 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Mon, 01 November 2004 00:34
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yikes, thats really cool
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
July 2004
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Mon, 01 November 2004 00:39
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| Danners wrote on Mon, 01 November 2004 10:02 |
*down on one knee*
Sir, may I have your car's hand in marriage?
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NO ITS MINE ALL MINE!!! 
Whats teh redline if the stroke has been dropped to 77 odd?
Fark!
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Mon, 01 November 2004 00:42
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Current Sports sedan regs stipulate a multiplying factor of 1.7 for forced induction PLUS 1.4 for multi-valve engines. Thus the 6 litre class is dominated by the ubiquitous 6 litre Chev. Engines under 2.5 litre are not subject to the multi-valve factor and I considered a change to a 1J. However, there is a proposal currently put forward to amend this situation and do away with the multi-valve factor altogether, to encourage a more diverse and up to date array of engine options. If this proposal is accepted by the Sports sedan associations next year, I will probably go to a 2J or maybe go Nissan. At the end of the day though, more horsepower does not necessarily lower lap times as much as chassis development,balance,grip and a multitude of other issues.
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Location:
Campbelltown
Registered:
November 2003
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Mon, 01 November 2004 00:52
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nice cra what times are you running compared to say the V8 supercars on the common circuits winton etc
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
February 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Mon, 01 November 2004 00:59
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laurie,
car looks fantastic and smooth ... just one question, do you run the IRS or have you gone to a solid axle with LSD?
cheers,
Charles.
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Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
May 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Mon, 01 November 2004 02:16
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Gah, you would have to be racing on the one day im not in town 
Ohwell, looks nice.
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Mon, 01 November 2004 02:17
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Chukster,
Car runs soarer IRS, nylon bushed and adjustable with Cusco 2 way LSD. This system is always a concern, particularly the inherent anti-squat geometry, and is an area for serious upgrade soon.
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Mon, 01 November 2004 02:30
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that is one hell of a machine, nice work
i'd love to see some video footage of it around the track
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sat, 18 December 2004 01:32
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....err Fire in engine bay at Phillip Island!! Under bonnet (and bonnet) not looking so good now!! Oh well, gives me something to do over holidays.
Laurie D
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
June 2004
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sat, 18 December 2004 02:53
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Sillycar,
Under 2 litre is probably more economical. Stick to go karts if you want thrills per dollar. (great fun too)
Typical running costs per meeting:
500 for entry and friday practice
200 for garage
200 for avgas
200 for accommodation (allow more for crew)
200 for food etc for driver and crew
650 for tyres (assuming 3 meetings per set if no damage or flat spots)
100 for tow vehicle fuel
90 for oil and filter change
Total= Not cheap even though this is budget level state racing.
Add more for constant development to race car and the occasional engine rebuild etc. Plus testing.
...Happy motor racing
Laurie D
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sat, 18 December 2004 02:57
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| Laurie D wrote on Sat, 18 December 2004 13:53 |
Sillycar,
Under 2 litre is probably more economical. Stick to go karts if you want thrills per dollar. (great fun too)
Typical running costs per meeting:
500 for entry and friday practice
200 for garage
200 for avgas
200 for accommodation (allow more for crew)
200 for food etc for driver and crew
650 for tyres (assuming 3 meetings per set if no damage or flat spots)
100 for tow vehicle fuel
90 for oil and filter change
Total= Not cheap even though this is budget level state racing.
Add more for constant development to race car and the occasional engine rebuild etc. Plus testing.
...Happy motor racing
Laurie D
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what weight have you got the car down too?
and have you ever thought about going one of my series soarers that are around 300 kg lighter than a standard mz20?
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
March 2003
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Sat, 18 December 2004 03:44
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....weight: 1260 kg with full tanks fuel (no driver)
I'd never build another standard chassis car. Maybe a spaceframe car with R32 body.
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sat, 18 December 2004 04:27
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how do you go in the field?
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
June 2004
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sat, 18 December 2004 05:33
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| Laurie D wrote on Sat, 18 December 2004 13:53 |
Sillycar,
Under 2 litre is probably more economical. Stick to go karts if you want thrills per dollar. (great fun too)
Typical running costs per meeting:
(adds up to about $1700)
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KRRRRRRRICKEY! now I understand why street machine mag is always warning people not to build a drag car for a class they can't afford to run ! ! !
(not that I read street machine)
I'm a bit over the Go-Kart thing. I run in the top half of the field with year-old tyres and a 3 year old kart, so I don't doubt I'd be quite competetive if I spent $3-4000 on a brand new kart, and bought tyres every 3 months.
Just that I'd rather put that sort of money into a sports sedan and running the Vic state series. Running costs could stop me though.
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Location:
camden
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: Soarer ready for Sandown.........pics
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Sun, 19 December 2004 07:27
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| st184 sillycar wrote on Sat, 18 December 2004 16:33 |
| Laurie D wrote on Sat, 18 December 2004 13:53 |
Sillycar,
Under 2 litre is probably more economical. Stick to go karts if you want thrills per dollar. (great fun too)
Typical running costs per meeting:
(adds up to about $1700)
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KRRRRRRRICKEY! now I understand why street machine mag is always warning people not to build a drag car for a class they can't afford to run ! ! !
(not that I read street machine)
I'm a bit over the Go-Kart thing. I run in the top half of the field with year-old tyres and a 3 year old kart, so I don't doubt I'd be quite competetive if I spent $3-4000 on a brand new kart, and bought tyres every 3 months.
Just that I'd rather put that sort of money into a sports sedan and running the Vic state series. Running costs could stop me though.
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Street machine = gold in magazine form.
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Location:
northgate@brisbane.qld.au
Registered:
July 2003
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Mon, 20 December 2004 01:25
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*spoont*
that is all.
well, actually... that car is horn, in pure form.
hope you get the fire damage fixed OK
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