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Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 01:47 Go to next message
Apparently the ability for your car to accelerate is purely based on it's torque or "thrust". It has nothing to do with power, weight, gearing etc. Read on. Ridiculous.

http://carsguide.news.com.au/news/story_page/0,826 9,11263487%255E21822,00.html

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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 01:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
man, they love thrust.
"has almost as much torque as a carrera GT"
why not list how much torque your typical semi has? Smile
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 02:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what about rolls royce jet engine?
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
That car would definitely benefit from a "Turbo Zet" install. Very Happy
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/MR1GGTE/Various%20Random%20Shit/carsguide.gif
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 02:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stupid, Uninformed
That's how you can describe most articles. Journalists try and get together a list of facts that will help them talk about a certain pre-assumed viewpoint that they have. After all, all they have to do is "torque". Laughing
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 02:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Was discussing this with my brother last week, but wouldn't a jet engine technically have zero torque as it doesn't turn anything ie it has thrust not torque.
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 04:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Some jet designs (like scram and ram jets) don't have any torque (nothing turning), but turbojets and turbofans certainly have torque. They use a power take off turbine at the rear to drive the compressor at the front - similar to a turbocharger with the inlet and outlet turbines linked.

As to the amount of torque, I dont think there would be very much, as they tend to rev out quite a bit for the horsepower. Something like this on the other hand .... Very Happy
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 04:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
One of us should join the pedestrian council and straighten things out!! Show them how fun torque is Cool Cool
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 04:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shows what happens when some journo decides to do a story on a topic that they know nothing about. Looks like Mark Hinchliffe is trying to be the next Evan Green and spark off a "Supercar Scare" similar to that of 1972, probably thinking it will earn him some kind of exposing-the-awful-truth-and-presenting-the-facts type of award or something.

On the other hand, I like what Gary Fites from the RACQ had to say:

"People come to grief at any speed. We have far higher priorities in reducing our road toll, such as improving the state of our roads system and better educating young and inexperienced motorists."

Amen brother. Wish the government would take notice of this kind of argument. As an RACQ member I feel very well represented by Mr Fites.

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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 04:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
draven wrote on Wed, 03 November 2004 09:59

man, they love thrust.
"has almost as much torque as a carrera GT"
why not list how much torque your typical semi has? Smile


Yeah your average semi has about 3 times as much "thrust" Very Happy as a porche carrera, so surely it would be 3 times faster? But hang on it definitely cant do 100km/h in second gear can it? Razz
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 05:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WTF THAT WAS THE BIGGEST LOAD OF EXCREMENT I HAVE EVER F**KING READ THE PAPER THAT IS USED TO PRINT THAT SHIT IS ONLY GOOD ENOUGH TO WHIPE AWAY THE CRAP THAT JURNO IS SPOUTING
HOW THE F**K CAN U COMPARE A CAR THAT HAS 450 KWS AND A CAR THATS COSTS ONE TENTH AND HAS ONLY 270KWS JUST COS THEY HAVE SIMILAR TORQUE
I LOVE FREE SPEECH BUT THAT DICK HEAD SHOULD BE SILINCED FOR HIS OWN GOOD BEFORE I VISIT HIM IN THE NITE HOURS AND SET ABOUT HIM WITH A BASE BALL BAT AND CAR GUIDE FOR DUMMYS INFO PAMPHLET
WOT ABOUT GEARING WEIGHT DRIVER ABILITY RELIABILITY POWER CURVES ACTUAL HORSE POWER SUSPENTION TO GET THE POWER TO THE GROUND

that jurno has about as much of a clue on the subject as the dog squad trying to deffect peoples cars Laughing Laughing Laughing

sorry end rant

that article just really got my blood boiling
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 06:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Laughing thats a funny article "The suped-up vehicle priced at $58,950 has more thrust than two of the world's fastest cars: the Ferrari F430 and Lamborghini Gallardo". That doesnt mean fuck all really Laughing

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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 06:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanx Car Guide......prat!

That is just a steaming pile of thoroughbred shit...fair enough torque is what actually moves a car, but all the other factors pointed out by everyone else here where never taken into consideration.

I cant believe the use of 'Thrust' in this article!! Thrust is a measurement of kinetic energy generated by an engine (almost always a Jet engine) because torque cannot be measured since the roational force of the engine does not directly move the vehicle as there is no driveline!!!.....breath! Sleep

THRUST DOES NOT APPLY TO CARS YOU F!@#ING TWAT
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 06:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
my 1600 can do over 100km/hr in second gear, what did they prove with their "independant" tests?
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 06:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thats the biggest load.. this car is gonna be mad. does anyone actually know the performance figures of it?, ive been reading everything.. but i cant find it.

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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ford haven't released figures because it would upset people that a family sedan can travel that fast.
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Performance figures as follows:

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Ford Performance Vehicles product planning manager Mark Behr acknowledged the decision not to release the figures was prompted by recent complaints about car advertisements highlighting the maximum speeds of powerful cars.


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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 08:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
THRUST BABY!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/biggwilliestyle/thrust_typhoon.gif

but in all seriousness, this car probably will be fukcin fast.
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
that car has better torque than supercars!! I believe i have lighter weight than those supercars!! Does that make my car dangerous for the pedestrian council??? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
"[Mr Scruby] called for speed-governing of vehicles and for speedos to be limited to showing 130km/h."

Where do I start?
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i reckon we should write in, and tell them the shit this guy's dribbling, and to get their facts straight Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 10:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fractoid wrote on Wed, 03 November 2004 20:27

"[Mr Scruby] called for speed-governing of vehicles and for speedos to be limited to showing 130km/h."

Where do I start?


well
there should be no reason for a road registered car in anywhere but possibly the NT to have a speedo that exceeds 110 as thats the highest speed limit i know of(atleast in queensland and WA...NT doesnt count Razz)


on the other hand
if you wish to use your car for track days and stuff that'd suck the big one



on topic though
i think, thanks to the article, that my cars major failing is its lack of thrust.

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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
So what if I drive to the NT in my car and wanna drive at 150 (where it's legal)?

Seriously, my car gets over 130km/h. Why start squarking 'cuz this thing can do it fairly quickly?

And they should ban all mac trucks! God with all that torque they should be able to reach 200kmh in second!!! Rolling Eyes

'cuz we all know it has nothing to do with anything but torque.

Although I will admit having something with that much torque can be dangerous for people who don't know what to do with it... but not 'cuz it's fast, but just 'cuz it'll snap the tail out easier.
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shraka wrote on Wed, 03 November 2004 20:18

So what if I drive to the NT in my car and wanna drive at 150 (where it's legal)?

That twat has been trying to get NT to lower its speed for ages.
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Heya guys.

"Mr Scruby" is a member of a 'pedestrian council' he's using tax payers money to do important things like getting commercials that show cars going fast to sell them banned...

Needless to say the PF crew (performanceforums.com) have decided to do something about stuff like that aswell as other issues facing drivers.. and a member has formed;

The Australian Drivers Group (ADG)

head on over to www.ozdrive.org and check it out!
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Wed, 03 November 2004 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Why are they releasing these vehicles on our roads when the motorway speed limit is 110km/h?"
What absolutely impeccable logic...wow, if only we were all as smart as this Einstein-esque being! In fact, he is so magnificent that we can only comprehend his genius if we think of him as a deity. I shall kill myself, now that I am overwhelmed by a sense of utter inadequecy in the face of his glory.

I must admit it is funny that we use nearly the same arguments to defend 'powerful' cars (ones with teh trhust) as those used by gun lobbyists in america. Cars don't kill people, people kill people!
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 00:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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there should be no reason for a road registered car in anywhere but possibly the NT to have a speedo that exceeds 110 as thats the highest speed limit i know of(atleast in queensland and WA...NT doesnt count )


Yeah but if you wish to safely overtake a vehicle doing 105km/h in a 110 zone you will more than likely have to exceed 110km/h
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 00:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Skip wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 11:19

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well
there should be no reason for a road registered car in anywhere but possibly the NT to have a speedo that exceeds 110 as thats the highest speed limit i know of(atleast in queensland and WA...NT doesnt count )


Yeah but if you wish to safely overtake a vehicle doing 105km/h in a 110 zone you will more than likely have to exceed 110km/h

thats illegal Rolling Eyes stupid government
when in overtaking lane your not meant to excede speed limit to pass.
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 01:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what if you're being chased by gangsters Rolling Eyes and you need to get to th cop shop as fast as you can? Razz
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 01:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dimmy77_03 wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 12:34

what if you're being chased by gangsters Rolling Eyes and you need to get to th cop shop as fast as you can? Razz

what if, say for instance ur in a lane of traffic.. 1 lane is relatively clear and the other is completely traffic blocked and an abulance comes up behind you and theres no-where to go.. and then in turn it costs someone life because ambulance couldnt go above 130(cause of guy infront)
highly hypothetical, but there are situations like this
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 01:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thats illegal stupid government
when in overtaking lane your not meant to excede speed limit to pass.


Some people follow this rule to the letter and that's why they take about 1km to pass a car when they overtake.

I find the less time spent in the right hand lane overtaking the better, hence if I need to exceed to get around I will do so. I think most people with a little common sense do as well.

I mean how would you ever get past those f$%ks that cruise at 80km/h hour in a 100km/h zone until you try to overtake and then they speed up??? I hate those people, they are usually day dreamers who didn't realise how slow they are going until someone starts to pass them Mad
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 01:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fact : The Xr6 turbo is a VERY very strong car, the Typhoon is a ballistic car ...

Fact : It possibly has more tuning potential than any car offered in the ford range

Fact: Any well sorted car can kill - its not the cars fault more cnditions of road + driver

Fact: Most motor journos like to use big words to make their articles flashy ..

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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 02:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thats illegal stupid government
when in overtaking lane your not meant to excede speed limit to pass.


Some people follow this rule to the letter and that's why they take about 1km to pass a car when they overtake.

I find the less time spent in the right hand lane overtaking the better, hence if I need to exceed to get around I will do so. I think most people with a little common sense do as well.

I mean how would you ever get past those f$%ks that cruise at 80km/h hour in a 100km/h zone until you try to overtake and then they speed up??? I hate those people, they are usually day dreamers who didn't realise how slow they are going until someone starts to pass them Mad

oh, i do too.. i was just pointing out Smile
beleive me, depressing the pedal in 5th and building boost to overtake is fun Smile
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 02:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Independent tests conducted by The Courier-Mail show the car can reach 100km/h in second gear but its top speed was not found.


Hoo-Ra Rolling Eyes

Me thinks if they independently tested many other vehicles they would find that they have the "amazing" capability of 100km per hour in second gear Rolling Eyes Most hire cars are capable of amazing feats similar to this Laughing

That article is uber gay.

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Fact: Any well sorted car can kill - its not the cars fault more conditions of road + driver



That is dead right!

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thats illegal stupid government
when in overtaking lane your not meant to excede speed limit to pass.



Some people follow this rule to the letter and that's why they take about 1km to pass a car when they overtake.

I find the less time spent in the right hand lane overtaking the better, hence if I need to exceed to get around I will do so. I think most people with a little common sense do as well.

I mean how would you ever get past those f$%ks that cruise at 80km/h hour in a 100km/h zone until you try to overtake and then they speed up??? I hate those people, they are usually day dreamers who didn't realise how slow they are going until someone starts to pass them


oh, i do too.. i was just pointing out
beleive me, depressing the pedal in 5th and building boost to overtake is fun


Yeah I knew that quote wasn't your standing point on the issue, it was just a good point to quote for my rant Smile .
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 02:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Independent tests conducted by The Courier-Mail show the car can reach 100km/h in second gear but its top speed was not found.


Hoo-Ra Rolling Eyes

Me thinks if they independently tested many other vehicles they would find that they have the "amazing" capability of 100km per hour in second gear Rolling Eyes Most hire cars are capable of amazing feats similar to this Laughing

That article is uber gay.

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Fact: Any well sorted car can kill - its not the cars fault more conditions of road + driver



That is dead right!

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thats illegal stupid government
when in overtaking lane your not meant to excede speed limit to pass.



Some people follow this rule to the letter and that's why they take about 1km to pass a car when they overtake.

I find the less time spent in the right hand lane overtaking the better, hence if I need to exceed to get around I will do so. I think most people with a little common sense do as well.

I mean how would you ever get past those f$%ks that cruise at 80km/h hour in a 100km/h zone until you try to overtake and then they speed up??? I hate those people, they are usually day dreamers who didn't realise how slow they are going until someone starts to pass them


oh, i do too.. i was just pointing out
beleive me, depressing the pedal in 5th and building boost to overtake is fun


Yeah I knew that quote wasn't your standing point on the issue, it was just a good point to quote for my rant Smile .


i guess im not special, only gets to 96 in second... my car isnt powerful enough to kill me Sad
haha
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i guess im not special, only gets to 96 in second... my car isnt powerful enough to kill me
haha
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Independent tests by the Pedestrian Council of Australia (they are just pissed because they have to walk everywhere Laughing ) find you car to be safe under their 2nd gear = >100km/h = Death trap test Laughing

Mine does just over 100km/h in second, I am in trouble.......although I have never checked my thrust value, it could be low.
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Celica will do 105kph at 6500rpm in second. Admittedly thats 1000rpm over the redline, but the car still did it, does that make the RA60 a more formidable dangerous device than Johal's JZZ10?
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 02:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Celica will do 105kph at 6500rpm in second. Admittedly thats 1000rpm over the redline, but the car still did it, does that make the RA60 a more formidable dangerous device than Johal's JZZ10?


Hand over your keys!! You are basically travelling in a 4 wheeled coffin!! Shocked
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 02:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My mums auto Honda CR-V does 120 in second gear!
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 02:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 13:25

The Celica will do 105kph at 6500rpm in second. Admittedly thats 1000rpm over the redline, but the car still did it, does that make the RA60 a more formidable dangerous device than Johal's JZZ10?

no doubt at all..
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 03:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If its just thrust that makes things goes fast, then motorcycles must have a lot of it. Laughing

So what if it do 100km/h in 2nd gear. So could my 93 Legacy turbo (admitted it only had 4 speed auto).
& I have been in a situation while overtaking where I either try to brake 2 semi trailer lengths to back behind the road train, or floor it to overtake the prime mover & one rigid truck in front of it. I think I hit bout 150-160km/h (VS Commodore).

Off duty Victoria cop in the car behind reported me.
When the local cops spoke to me about it, they were cool with my explanation.

BTW, I'd rather be in a Typoon doing 150km/h, than in a Niki or Lada doing 100km/h Laughing Hellava lot safer
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 04:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have a conspiracy theory that the pedestrian council was formed by a group of seagulls whom couldnt pass there L's tests and hence want to ruin it for everyone else.

This guy with his abounding knowledge of how a car works has just added more proof to my claim.
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 04:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Freddoaw11 wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 15:16

I have a conspiracy theory that the pedestrian council was formed by a group of seagulls whom couldnt pass there L's tests and hence want to ruin it for everyone else.

This guy with his abounding knowledge of how a car works has just added more proof to my claim.

what reports like this do is get to older people who dont exactly understand stuff like this.
its like every time i go over to my grandma's and when theres been a story on today tonight about hoons, or virus' or some such thing.

"johal, have you got any of THOSE virus' on your computer, you better get rid of them or it could break your computer" and they take it really seriously.

if i told her my car could do 100 in 2nd with 6 gears to choose from she would be terrified how fast my car is(even if it was like a mini)
they just dont understand
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 04:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think you'll find it's pretty common that people in position to say things about these topics aren't usually the ones with the most researched or well-rounded knowledge. Most of the time they are just loud mouthed opinionated dimwits who aren't prepared to debate or discuss, they just want their way and the power trip that goes with it.
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 04:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a conspiracy theory that the pedestrian council was formed by a group of seagulls whom couldnt pass there L's tests and hence want to ruin it for everyone else.



Probably right, they are just another branch of the Fun Police.
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 05:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
With 2.6:1 diff and traumatic my old VK Calais used to do 110km/h in FIRST GEAR!!!!!! Now that would have to be a deadly predestrian slaying machine wouldnt it? Even though you had to get out and push it to get it moving off the line haha.
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
they also forget to state that it weighs like another 500+kg but that wouldn't effect performance would it
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
OMG you people, cant you see????
as we drive cars that can do the speed limit in our first couple of gears, we are at risk of not only killing ourselves, but those other 'pedestrians' as well!!!!! Mad Laughing
i just love things like this, almost as good as the speed kills ad campaign. its not safe to speed, no matter what the situation is, or where you are....... its those 5 k's over the limit that will kill you, or someone else, and not any other factor. Rolling Eyes
and who gives a crap about torque output??? a signiture series cummins has like 600HP, and something in the realms of 2500NM of torque, but i dont think its going to break any land speed records any time soon. . . . .
the scary thing is that so many people are uninformed, and impressionable enough to listen and agree with this kind of shit. sure thing, journo's have a right to write ( is that the pun police i can hear chasing me ??? Razz ), but surely someone out there should be monitering the shit that some of them come up with, and influence people with. . . . . . . what is the difference between this crap, and nazi propoganda??? not much in my eyes.

----end sarcastic rant----

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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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dickhead said


"Why are they releasing these vehicles on our roads when the motorway speed limit is 110km/h?"




Freeway and highways should have a variable speed limit. 130-140 in perfect sunny conditions 90-100(or slower) in wet conditions.

Fatigue kills and I doubt very much you would get as fatigued driving at 140 than at 110.
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Benjamin wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 19:58

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dickhead said


"Why are they releasing these vehicles on our roads when the motorway speed limit is 110km/h?"




Freeway and highways should have a variable speed limit. 130-140 in perfect sunny conditions 90-100(or slower) in wet conditions.

Fatigue kills and I doubt very much you would get as fatigued driving at 140 than at 110.

People should just not be retards and know what a safe speed for their cars is in varying conditions. I commonly drive below the speed limit in the wet. I also drive at 30 sometimes though school zones when there are lots of kids about. I used to do that before they put in 40 zones around schools. I don't do it 'cuz it's the law, I do it 'cuz I'm not a fucking idiot!
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
coming frm malaysia, lots of accidents happen during public and school holidays. About 85% are not speed related but due to fatigue and lost concentration etc..

Is it the same here?
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
b1gb3n wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 23:22

coming frm malaysia, lots of accidents happen during public and school holidays. About 85% are not speed related but due to fatigue and lost concentration etc..

Is it the same here?


In fact, all road accident in any parts of the woruld cause Speeing, Fatigue, lost of concentration or a combanation of them!!
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Skip wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 15:44

With 2.6:1 diff and traumatic my old VK Calais used to do 110km/h in FIRST GEAR!!!!!! Now that would have to be a deadly predestrian slaying machine wouldnt it? Even though you had to get out and push it to get it moving off the line haha.


BAHAHAHA was my "full sick uleah" VK could do the same thing, i dont think aussie made family cars were made to be thrashed that hard eva Smile
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 23:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I don't think GZ20 soarers were made to be thrashed hard either Shocked
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Thu, 04 November 2004 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Skip wrote on Fri, 05 November 2004 10:13

I don't think GZ20 soarers were made to be thrashed hard either Shocked


I dont think bundera landcruisers were made to have 1JZ's dropped into them Razz

and i dont thrash it that hard Embarassed
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Fri, 05 November 2004 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The thing I hate about morons like this is that they say that cars can only go to 110kmph in australia. What about the fact that these cars also have brakes, suspension etc far superior to the average family sedan, ie people rantign about porsches. The fact is that whilst they can go fats they are also far safer than other cars at 110kmph. I wouldn't mind having one behind me in an emergency it would stop well before hitting my arse unlike the landcruiser etc that finds it fun tro tail gate and takes 20m more to stop.
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Fri, 05 November 2004 01:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MR 1GGTE wrote on Fri, 05 November 2004 07:54

Skip wrote on Fri, 05 November 2004 10:13

I don't think GZ20 soarers were made to be thrashed hard either Shocked


I dont think bundera landcruisers were made to have 1JZ's dropped into them Razz



Yeah I know please slap me in the face! Very Happy

On another issue I notice that people who drive 4WD's tend to do alot less stupid things on the road than people with your average small/family car. Does anyone else feel this or am I just blind?
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Fri, 05 November 2004 02:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no there are plenty of morons in 4wd's to majority of them use their cars as weapons as they can excert pressure through there large vehicular mass. There are less on the road thus equating to less incidents, but a lot of 4x4's are driven by mums on a power excursion.
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Re: Stupid, Uninformed, Crappy Turbo Falcon Article Fri, 05 November 2004 02:23 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
I learnt how to go sideways in a 4WD Confused
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