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juzzo84
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20v turbo intake Plenum! Proven size! HELP Thu, 04 November 2004 07:41 Go to next message
has any one got a proven performance design and capacity for a 20v turbo running a t25 @ 10psi. also what material was used to make it and any pics would be mostly appreciated!!!
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Justin
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YelloRolla
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Re: 20v turbo intake Plenum! Proven size! HELP Thu, 04 November 2004 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AFAIK there are no hard and fast rules. I have seen people quote anything from 2.5 times the engine capacity down to 60-70% engine capacity across to "make sure that it is big enough to support the runners that it is feeding!" (ie volume of 1 runner from bell mouth to valve x 4 in this case)

Bigger = less effect caused by the pressure waves travelling back and forth within the plenum and better overall flow.

Small = more responsive.

Result - suck it and see!
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Re: 20v turbo intake Plenum! Proven size! HELP Fri, 05 November 2004 02:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
juzzo
the one that is currently on your car is not that bad size wise, i would make one similer size (slightly larger if you can) but make it neater!

so far that is the best responding 20v turbo that i have tuned so it must be doing something half alright
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Re: 20v turbo intake Plenum! Proven size! HELP Fri, 05 November 2004 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i was thinking about leaving it about the same size, i just wanted something a little nicer looking and was just thinking that if there is more performance to be had, then why not while im at it!!!
cheers guys!

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Re: 20v turbo intake Plenum! Proven size! HELP Fri, 05 November 2004 23:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Got any pics of your manifold?

Im doing a turbo 16v w/ 20v quad throttles and have some cad/3d studio designs I can get some pics of....
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Re: 20v turbo intake Plenum! Proven size! HELP Fri, 05 November 2004 23:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
will get some manifold pics up later this arvo!!
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Necros
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Re: 20v turbo intake Plenum! Proven size! HELP Sat, 06 November 2004 00:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Heres some pics of my 4A-GTE design... the intake will need some changes because I think it will hit the suspension tower...

The intake plenum is 4lt in volume, I can provide measurements of everything. Its all to 1:1 scale down to the mm Smile

http://www.securityonline.net.au/images/necros/manifold01.jpg

http://www.securityonline.net.au/images/necros/manifold02.jpg

http://www.securityonline.net.au/images/necros/manifold03.jpg

http://www.securityonline.net.au/images/necros/manifold04.jpg

http://www.securityonline.net.au/images/necros/manifold05.jpg

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Re: 20v turbo intake Plenum! Proven size! HELP Sat, 06 November 2004 02:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
these might be of assistance:
<http://www.sdsefi.com/techinta.htm>
and
<http://www.dune-buggy.com/turbo/intake.htm>
and (how stufff works)
<http://www.howstuffworks.com/question517.htm>

for starter,s you might want to 'bell' the start of the runners inside the plenum.

cheers,
Charles.
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Leighp
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Re: 20v turbo intake Plenum! Proven size! HELP Sat, 06 November 2004 05:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nice cad work
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juzzo84
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Re: 20v turbo intake Plenum! Proven size! HELP Sat, 06 November 2004 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks for your help guys, and yes that CAD work is fantastic!
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4ag20t
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Re: 20v turbo intake Plenum! Proven size! HELP Sat, 06 November 2004 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey dude
intake plenum size on a 20v doesn't mean bugger all in power terms, as the throttle bodies are after the so called 'plenum'. The plenum size does matter on engines that have the throttle body before plenum. Its just a matter of what looks good on a 20v.
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john
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Necros
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Re: 20v turbo intake Plenum! Proven size! HELP Sun, 07 November 2004 01:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Actually he has a very good point!

Whats the difference betweent the so called plenum after the throttles and the 2.5" or 3" pipe to the intercooler?
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Re: 20v turbo intake Plenum! Proven size! HELP Sun, 07 November 2004 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the plenum on your car now used too belong to me. it was originally on an n/a 20v and dave modified it for the turbo setup. It's ugly but seeemed to work quite well.
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Re: 20v turbo intake Plenum! Proven size! HELP Sun, 07 November 2004 22:15 Go to previous message
Necros wrote on Sun, 07 November 2004 12:06

Actually he has a very good point!

Whats the difference betweent the so called plenum after the throttles and the 2.5" or 3" pipe to the intercooler?


when your at full throttle they both do the same thing, it doesnt care if there is a butterfly before or after it,

its all about air flow!

Dale
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