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Thu, 04 November 2004 10:04
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Here is a conversation from msn
Holly.......... says:
fucking 6.30 am wednesday
Holly.......... says:
i pull up outside glenorchy newsagency on the main rd
"Mookie Mad Skillz" All i got 2 do is tell the girl who i am there aint a Chick in here i can't have Batta boom batta bam ba bam says:
that's what i'm doing about then too
"Mookie Mad Skillz" All i got 2 do is tell the girl who i am there aint a Chick in here i can't have Batta boom batta bam ba bam says:
yeah
Holly.......... says:
waitin to pick this lady up to go to work
Holly.......... says:
im just parked with my car still running
Holly.......... says:
up comes this cop and parks behind me
Holly.......... says:
i turn my car off
Holly.......... says:
then this fucking bastard comes and knocks on my window
Holly.......... says:
"how come u arnt wearing a seatbeltHolly.......... says:
i said im parked
Holly.......... says:
and he said u wernt wearing it i saw
Holly.......... says:
and im like ok
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and hes like can i see your licence
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so i pass it to him he goes back to his car then comes up and says SO HOW MUCH HAVE U HAD TO DRINK
"Mookie Mad Skillz" All i got 2 do is tell the girl who i am there aint a Chick in here i can't have Batta boom batta bam ba bam says:
it's like 6:30 am ?!?!?!?
Holly.......... says:
and im like ĪM GOING TO WORK
Holly.......... says:
he goes so what r u doing hear anywayHolly.......... says:
and i said waiting to pick somoen up
Holly.......... says:
i started to get a bit upset at this stage
Holly.......... says:
anyway he goes
Holly.......... says:
"STEP OUT OF THE CAR PLEASE
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and i go "just give me this ticket and ill go, i dont want to step out of the car, ill have to go im going to be late to work, its cold
Holly.......... says:
hes like MS WESTCOTT STEP OUT OF THE CAR RIGHT NOW
Holly.......... says:
then he walks aroudn to the otherside and knocks on teh passenger window and yells ms westcott step out of the car
Holly.......... says:
i GOT angry and yelled NO, AND I CANT AFFORD TO PAY THE FINE EVER LEAVE ME ALONE JUST GIVE ME THE TICKET
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THEn he comes back round, and says you have been drinking ms westcott
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goes back to his car, and comes up and sticks a breathaliser in front of me
Holly.......... says:
i blow in it, im crying a bit it this stage, cause i was upset
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he then goes right, if you dont stop crying i have the power to imobolise your vehicle
Holly.......... says:
DONT DRIVE WITH NO SEATBELT HE THEN YELLS IN MY FACE
Holly.......... says:
im crying pretty hard by now, the lady i was picking up comes, he then backs off abit
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saying if i leave while im still crying he will imobolise my vehicle
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AND THATS it he left about 2 minutes later
Holly.......... says:
IM SO ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
Holly.......... says:
CAN U BELIEVE THAT
Holly.......... says:
3 POINTS $11O BUCKS
"Mookie Mad Skillz" All i got 2 do is tell the girl who i am there aint a Chick in here i can't have Batta boom batta bam ba bam says:
if u want i give you the number of my lawyer
he had 2 cops all red faced and shit scared in court
Holly.......... says:
well theres nothing i can do really
Now if u can follow that i recon its fucked up how he treated her.
If it happned to me that guy would be in court faster than he can write a ticket.
I could have asked her to write it in a full story but she is still upset. And i can't put it together just yet (hayfever tablets)
[Updated on: Thu, 04 November 2004 11:36]
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Thu, 04 November 2004 10:14
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I feel sorry for people who get cops like that.
I've had a kinda similar thing start to happen once, but when you just stand up and show them you know your rights and aren't easily pushed around, and keep very calm, they give up pretty quickly.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 10:28
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Thu, 04 November 2004 10:29
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Dude, that is FUCKING DISGRACEFUL.
I suggest you really try to convince her to take the prick to court. What an absolute asshole. If I found out a cop did that to my missus or something, there would be hell to pay!
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Thu, 04 November 2004 10:31
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I had this fucktard of a cop jump into the middle of the road once to stop me for a breath test, He then tryed to arrest me for trying to run him over so I told him nicely to FUCK OFF or I will go and see his supervisor,
He backed off and let me go
Cops can be wankers sometimes but some cops are cool to
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Thu, 04 November 2004 10:44
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Yeah i'm pretty sure this will go to court i'm going to see my lawyer tomorrow.
She had taken off her seatbelt while she was parked as far as i know thats legal .
She is the nicest person i know she gave me car! i mean how many people do that ?
I'm going to have his ass in court asap.
All you people who have been treated like this
DON'T LIE DOWN AND TAKE IT !!!!!
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Thu, 04 November 2004 11:25
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Wow... thats really really fucked.
Cops like that should be taken out the back and shot.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 11:33
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geez man thats really distressing/disgusting..
thats just blatant abuse of power to a point, still going apeshit at a girl who is in tears 
take the guy to court and make sure he goes down, no way in hell should you treat someone like that, especially a woman.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 11:36
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Pretty bad that she got treated that way...there are some prick cops out there. However i think she should of obeyed the cops orders...never wise to not do what a pig asks you to do(within the law and your civil rights of course). By refusing to get out of the car i'd say she just appeared more guilty in the eyes of the officer. If she was still waiting for the person she was picking up i dont see how it would of made her late.
as for the ticket, she should just contest it, i dont think its illegal not to wear your seatbelt whilst the car is parked. Although, i'd be careful about involving lawyers and trying to get the cop into trouble, he'll probably easily counter that she blew the whole thing out of proportion and over reacted about a simple ticket involving a minor traffic offence. If anything i'd submit a formal\written complaint to his CO.
But thats just me(i've had a bit of experience with police being pricks to me for no reason)
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Thu, 04 November 2004 11:42
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She tryed complaining but all she got was "i'll have a talk to him"
Mean while she has 1 point left on her licence.
She didn't have any reason to get out of the car i thought
it was freezing cold, And he didn't need to yell it at her.
Well that's the way i see it
i can see should could have made it easyer by doing things differently but she had done nothing wrong and she was late for work.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 12:00
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thats sucks
and i think you need to have the seatbelt on when the car is running i check it out t/m but
she should have got out of the car eeeee mistake that was 
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Thu, 04 November 2004 12:14
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It does sound as though your friend got abit impatient with the cop, maybe pissed him off abit.
But still cops can abuse their power I got pulled over for what he called 120 in an 80zone even hough I was sitting on 75 cos I could see him way behind me about 150-200m, Maybe he had to do 120 to get next to me so fast.... anyway He let me go when he found out I was going to work at the stations local watering hole.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 20:31
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The car wasn't running she was sitting in a car park ,
If u had seen the weather that day you wouldn't want to get out of the car, I swear the rain was almost horizontal.
I'f u saw somebody wearing a suit at 6:30am would u think think they had been drinking ??? i know i wouldn't
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Thu, 04 November 2004 22:27
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| Mookie wrote on Fri, 05 November 2004 07:31 |
The car wasn't running she was sitting in a car park ,
If u had seen the weather that day you wouldn't want to get out of the car, I swear the rain was almost horizontal.
I'f u saw somebody wearing a suit at 6:30am would u think think they had been drinking ??? i know i wouldn't
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hehe she tyell a diffrent story
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If u had seen the weather that day you wouldn't want to get out of the car, I swear the rain was almost horizontal.
I'f u saw somebody wearing a suit at 6:30am would u think think they had been drinking ??? i know i wouldn't
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heheh you still got to follow what the cop says no matter about the rain
oh and yes they get alo of drink drive early in the morning on the way to work so there
but the cops adduited seem way over the top (but there is allways 2 side to every story )
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Thu, 04 November 2004 22:46
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but yeah...
first, refuses to co-operate with a simple "step out of the car"
*then* starts the water works... if I was the cop and saw exactly the same thing in that order, I'd prolly think she was guilty too (of course, I wouldn't yell at her). Not that I've ever heard a cop yell (except that time when I floored it out of an RBT)
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Thu, 04 November 2004 22:54
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i agree with cyber punk.
i appauls me that people instantly go against the cop just cause the other party was a crying female. Tho i should remember this forum is full of guys.
as for the the comments about taking this to court over "emotional distress" matters are just stupid. dont waste the courts time and tax payers money!
how fragile is this person to cry over such an insignificant little thing?
does she not know that people have endured things worse than this? wars, crime, disasters...
how about she go and chat to some people who were displaced during any of the many wars we have had last century.
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Thu, 04 November 2004 23:46
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comparing any experience to wars is not fair, especially when we're just talking about what is suitable to cry to.
but yes, she did cry over nothing.
Gotta remember tho, she's a woman, authority figure yelling at her (actually, I'd guess it was the typical police "forceful" voce, cops dont typically yell)... maybe under stress being late for work?
Can all add up, I know women who cry over less. (but they dont go suing every time they burst into tears)
I wouold, however, check up on the laws re wearing your seatbelt and possibly challenge that part of it
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Thu, 04 November 2004 23:51
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im not comparing her experience with wars etc.
im saying people have had to deal with worse things, which is pointing out the insignificance of the experience that she had.
and i do agree she should contest the fine.
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Fri, 05 November 2004 00:57
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| Danish wrote on Fri, 05 November 2004 11:52 |
Tassie cops are strange.
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Strangeness is not limited to cops down there....
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Fri, 05 November 2004 01:53
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Lawyers are ghey!
I agree with rob_RA40, definitely not worth going to court over.
Mookie are you gonna pay all those colluding ahole lawyers fees if she doesnt win?
Perhaps a better option would be to report the officer. Court is crap.
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Fri, 05 November 2004 02:12
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I've heard a few cops yell in my time.
you do not have to wear your seat belt unless you are moving in a forward direction and you don't have to if you are courier doing door to door deliveries as long as you do not exceed 25kmph
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Fri, 05 November 2004 02:27
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It won't cost very much at all to take it to court.
I will see what she wants to do but after i have told people about this i found out they have had the same experience in the same area.
I'm not saying it's the same cops but if i goes to court it will send the message to the cops that they can't do that.
I've dealt with heaps of cops and i have always 1st up tryed to be civil and polite and talk to them like adults.
But if they refuse to do the same then i will treat them the way they treat me.
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Fri, 05 November 2004 02:27
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| Goose wrote on Fri, 05 November 2004 13:12 |
I've heard a few cops yell in my time.
you do not have to wear your seat belt unless you are moving in a forward direction and you don't have to if you are courier doing door to door deliveries as long as you do not exceed 25kmph
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That's correct (or what I have heard multiple times anyway). So you don't need one if you are in reverse.
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Fri, 05 November 2004 03:33
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| Mookie wrote on Fri, 05 November 2004 10:27 |
It won't cost very much at all to take it to court.
I will see what she wants to do but after i have told people about this i found out they have had the same experience in the same area.
I'm not saying it's the same cops but if i goes to court it will send the message to the cops that they can't do that.
I've dealt with heaps of cops and i have always 1st up tryed to be civil and polite and talk to them like adults.
But if they refuse to do the same then i will treat them the way they treat me.
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You say not very much, have you got an actual figure? That could mean anything.
The only people guarnteed to win from court are lawyers, if they loose the case they still win anyway.
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Fri, 05 November 2004 05:22
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| Skip wrote on Fri, 05 November 2004 14:33 |
| Mookie wrote on Fri, 05 November 2004 10:27 |
It won't cost very much at all to take it to court.
I will see what she wants to do but after i have told people about this i found out they have had the same experience in the same area.
I'm not saying it's the same cops but if i goes to court it will send the message to the cops that they can't do that.
I've dealt with heaps of cops and i have always 1st up tryed to be civil and polite and talk to them like adults.
But if they refuse to do the same then i will treat them the way they treat me.
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You say not very much, have you got an actual figure? That could mean anything.
The only people guarnteed to win from court are lawyers, if they loose the case they still win anyway.
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When i say not very much i mean like a $200/$300 bucks
This lawyer is a good bloke and is very VERY good at what he does.
I've spent alot more than that on him and every single dollar has been worth it.
I know he will try his hardest aswell which is very important
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Fri, 05 November 2004 05:54
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| Mookie wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 21:04 |
im just parked with my car still running
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Its illegal to not have a seatbelt on when the car is running. You learn that your first L plate lesson (paid lesson that is, the guy won't let you start the car until you're strapped in and rearanged all the mirrors/seats). What if she bumped it into drive or slipped off the clutch?
Also, if she's now down to 1 point what were the other offenses for? If she already lost all her other points (assuming she's got 12?) from not wearing a seatbelt, then I would've yelled at her too. Maybe he yelled to be heard over her crying ("im crying prety hard by now"). I don't know, I wasn't there.
Thats what I could gather from the information provided and is my personal opinion only.
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Fri, 05 November 2004 06:06
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What sort of BS rules does sydney have what i said before is straight of the drivers manual here in SA.
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Fri, 05 November 2004 06:11
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I would be hard pressed to keep my cool with a cop like that. They can be, at times, the biggest pricks on the face of the earth.
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Fri, 05 November 2004 06:26
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| SupraPete wrote on Fri, 05 November 2004 16:24 |
What if she bumped it into drive or slipped off the clutch?
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i dont really see what that has to do with anything
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Fri, 05 November 2004 06:41
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slipped off the clutch?
well u dont sit there with the clutch in for extended periods do you?
bumped it into drive?
i doesnt just fall into drive
if she is parked she would most probably have the handbrake on
and if she did slip/or bump launching at 1000 revs is gonna have her going about 1 - 6 km/ ph - im sure her reactions arent that slow that she could hit the brakes, even in her emotional state!
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Fri, 05 November 2004 06:55
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yes the law is that if your car is running you must be wearing a seatbelt.
your friend also didnt get out of the car when she was told to so technically she didnt obey a police officer which can also be a chargable offence.
dont get me wrong i think most cops are retards and your friend was probably not doing anything wrong. but if you get a fucktard cop you are better off doing what they say, and calling them sir. it makes them feel good, because they probably got picked on at school and are getting revenge on society.
crying doesnt usually help the matter
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Fri, 05 November 2004 07:16
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| SupraPete wrote on Fri, 05 November 2004 16:54 |
| Mookie wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 21:04 |
im just parked with my car still running
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Its illegal to not have a seatbelt on when the car is running. You learn that your first L plate lesson (paid lesson that is, the guy won't let you start the car until you're strapped in and rearanged all the mirrors/seats). What if she bumped it into drive or slipped off the clutch?
Also, if she's now down to 1 point what were the other offenses for? If she already lost all her other points (assuming she's got 12?) from not wearing a seatbelt, then I would've yelled at her too. Maybe he yelled to be heard over her crying ("im crying prety hard by now"). I don't know, I wasn't there.
Thats what I could gather from the information provided and is my personal opinion only.
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She has her p's so she only has 4 point to begin with,
and she lost 3 cuz of the cop
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Fri, 05 November 2004 07:54
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post up the fine i wanna have alook at it before i tell u somnthing (its good u would wanna no it )
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Mon, 08 November 2004 08:01
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a quick lesson in road rules:
# if the vehicle is running, all passengers must have their seat belts on. Technically i believe that if the keys are in the ignition all passengers must have their belts on.
Sorry mookie, but you friend was technically breaking road rules. Yes it sucks, and the police officer would seem to have a bit of attitude behind him - but the fact remains she was still breaking the road rules.
Cop it on the chin, i know people who have copped far worse for far less. Try being a German in australia during the 1950's.
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Mon, 08 November 2004 08:04
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| THE WITZL wrote on Mon, 08 November 2004 19:01 |
a quick lesson in road rules:
# if the vehicle is running, all passengers must have their seat belts on. Technically i believe that if the keys are in the ignition all passengers must have their belts on.
Sorry mookie, but you friend was technically breaking road rules. Yes it sucks, and the police officer would seem to have a bit of attitude behind him - but the fact remains she was still breaking the road rules.
Cop it on the chin, i know people who have copped far worse for far less. Try being a German in australia during the 1950's.
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I hate zi germans!
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Mon, 08 November 2004 08:40
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| Cyber-punk wrote on Thu, 04 November 2004 22:36 |
Pretty bad that she got treated that way...there are some prick cops out there. However i think she should of obeyed the cops orders...never wise to not do what a pig asks you to do(within the law and your civil rights of course). By refusing to get out of the car i'd say she just appeared more guilty in the eyes of the officer. If she was still waiting for the person she was picking up i dont see how it would of made her late.
as for the ticket, she should just contest it, i dont think its illegal not to wear your seatbelt whilst the car is parked. Although, i'd be careful about involving lawyers and trying to get the cop into trouble, he'll probably easily counter that she blew the whole thing out of proportion and over reacted about a simple ticket involving a minor traffic offence. If anything i'd submit a formal\written complaint to his CO.
But thats just me(i've had a bit of experience with police being pricks to me for no reason)
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When you get out of the car they hound you more and more. I've been through something similiar......... and as i found out the other night its still on my record cos the officers brought it up. The bad thing about it was they wrote it down so it sounded like i did it and not that i was question about who did it. 
As for the anti cop thing, is it any wonder when they do shit like this?
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Mon, 08 November 2004 21:03
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THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL!!!!!!!!!!!DO NOT PASS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DO NOT COLLECT $200!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mon, 08 November 2004 22:25
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This is like that seinfeld episode where jerry's girlfriend drops the frankfurter
'i dropped my frankfurter *cries*'
All she needed to do was answer simply and politely and follow instructions and she wouldnt have been given a fine. The cop had no finesse, a lot dont. But crying just made the situation worse.
step out of the car please
'no go away, just gimme the ticket, please, *starts crying*'
this is crazy. it implies that she is erratic and hiding something because she wants the cop to go away. And he ofcourse thought she was drinking.. It couldve been a lot worse and he couldve suspected her car was linned with drugs and done a full search.
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i'd take him to court and sew him for emotional distress or someshit like that. 
