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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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Re: KE70 <= 1G-GTE
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Mon, 07 October 2002 05:06
 
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I'm not 100% familiar with the car's themselves. Logic would suggest that it may be a bit of a struggle fitting an inline 6 into one of them because, while the 1G is fairly small by inline six standards, it is pretty big and it likely to screw up the handling.
Just a couple of things to think about.
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Victoria
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Re: KE70 <= 1G-GTE
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Mon, 07 October 2002 06:59
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I thought the 1G-GTE wasn't going to be much heavier than the standard boat anchor engine... anyhow, I'll have the weight distribution sorted; I can get my hands on some ex-race weights to put in the back.
Just wanted to know if anyone had specs like the physical size of the engine (height, width, depth and weight).
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: KE70 <= 1G-GTE
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Mon, 07 October 2002 08:13
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I think the length of the engine will be your biggest problem - you'll probably need firewall mods and/or relocated radiator to make it fit. A KE70 engine bay isn't very long.
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sydney
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May 2002
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Re: KE70 <= 1G-GTE
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Mon, 07 October 2002 09:50
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The answer is simply this..if they fit in a sprinter engine bay they will fit in a KE70/AE71 engine bay, theyre almost identical bays  , I think I saw a pic of one in a sprinter a few years back.
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goldcoast QLD
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October 2002
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Re: KE70 <= 1G-GTE
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Mon, 07 October 2002 10:15
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I've seen a couple of KE70's with 1GGTE's in them... 
One was a van and one was a sedan. The engine will fit but the turbos don't. They foul on the steering shaft (because KE70's have rack and pinion steering i'm told). Anyway,both cars had been converted to single turbos with high mount manifolds etc...
I have some photo's here, i'll put them up soon.
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Victoria
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Re: KE70 <= 1G-GTE
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Wed, 09 October 2002 00:14
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Sounds good! can't wait to see those pics. 
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: KE70 <= 1G-GTE
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Wed, 09 October 2002 00:36
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Are you calling my 4K a boat anchor? SHAME ON YOU Nah, a 4K isn't what you'd call a heavy engine... so I'd imagine a 1G is going to make a very noticable difference
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: KE70 <= 1G-GTE
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Wed, 09 October 2002 00:37
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The 1G-GTE weighs about 175kg. Its pretty light as far as an inline six goes, but its still an iron block/alloy head.
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: KE70 or corona <= 1G-GTE or 1UZ-FE?
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Wed, 09 October 2002 06:26
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A complete 1UZ with all ancilliaries etc is well over the 200kg mark. It may fit, but width is your enemy here - they are a very wide engine. Having said that, Jamie managed to squeeze one into a TA22 so I guess you could do the same thing in a KE70. Of course you should grab a tape measure and check before you commit to anything.
Don't fool yourself though, it would be a pretty difficult job to get a 1UZ up and running in an old Corolla.
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May 2002
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Re: KE70 or corona <= 1G-GTE or 1UZ-FE?
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Wed, 09 October 2002 10:31
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The question is certainly worth a laugh...if little else!
When I was having the 4AGE put into my KE70, I "floated" (used very academically!) the idea of putting a 1UZ into it. The bloke doing the conversion grabbed a tape measure, measured up a 1UZ he had in the garage, and measured the KE's engine bay...the consensus is that it'd fit!
Still, I wouldn't get carried away. It would be a shit-load of work to make it actually fit, which is why I decided to put a 1UZ into an MX83 instead. Much better...everything, and lots lets hassle!
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: KE70 or corona <= 1G-GTE or 1UZ-FE?
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Wed, 09 October 2002 12:16
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Biased, was it you telling me the Soarer has a front-sump? You are sure its front right, not mid?
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May 2002
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Re: KE70 or corona <= 1G-GTE or 1UZ-FE?
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Thu, 10 October 2002 01:13
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O.K.
The 1UZ in my Cressida is definitely from a Soarer.
The sump is definitely at the front of the engine.
When I get around to it, I'll take some pics of the car (from all angles, primarily for the web-site) and I'll post pics of the underneath here. It actually looks as though it belongs there.
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Victoria
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September 2002
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Re: KE70 or corona <= 1G-GTE or 1UZ-FE?
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Thu, 10 October 2002 05:16
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would the corona be a better idea because it's a heavier car (might even out the weight distribution) and the tape measure says it's pretty much the same size as the rolla engine bay.
Quoted from http://www.fastlane.com.au/Custom_Shed/AEC_Bullet. htm
"At 175 Kg, the alloy quad-cam, 32-valve Lexus V8 weighs in some 10 Kg lighter than the Chevy Gen III V8 engine which is presently powering top of the range Holden Commodores Down Under."
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: KE70 or corona <= 1G-GTE or 1UZ-FE?
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Thu, 10 October 2002 06:53
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wicked dude, thanks! what year soarer? just in case 
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May 2002
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Re: KE70 or corona <= 1G-GTE or 1UZ-FE?
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Thu, 10 October 2002 07:27
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The year of manufacture is unknown...*said in best Spock voice*
However, it is largely irrelevant, given that the sump configuration on any UZZ30 or 31 Soarer from '91 - '96 (prior to the '97 VVTI engine release) should be the same. I'd suggest that the '97 on cars have similar (ie. front sump) configurations, but they're as rare as rocking horse - stuff - and so I couldn't definitively say...I'd suggest going to an import dealer and actually sticking your head under the front of a Soarer and checking the config for yourself, then you will know whether it matches your requirements or not...
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: KE70 or corona <= 1G-GTE or 1UZ-FE?
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Thu, 10 October 2002 08:42
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Haha, yeah, I'm lazy and I've been more concerned making sure the body doesn't rust any more than sorting out a second engine for it, thats why I've just been researching it from the net.
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Sydney, Hurstville, Pensh...
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August 2004
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Re: KE70 or corona <= 1G-GTE or 1UZ-FE?
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Sun, 15 August 2004 06:08
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whats my ke70 got in his?
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