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TRD_Celica
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5MT-E Mon, 08 November 2004 00:34 Go to next message
does anyone out there have or know of anyone with a 5MT-E what are the power figures like ?
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Re: 5MT-E Mon, 08 November 2004 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ask gianttomato
and use the search function.
or else frank will get you again. Laughing

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Re: 5MT-E Mon, 08 November 2004 01:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Seriously dude. Use the damn search feature. You pleaded ignorance last time, it doesn't wash twice. No No No
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Re: 5MT-E Mon, 08 November 2004 05:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
frank look give me a break i am a fellow MA61 driver aswell
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Re: 5MT-E Mon, 08 November 2004 05:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haha, credit where credits due Razz When you start searching instead of asking repeated questions I'll give ya a break Wink
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Re: 5MT-E Mon, 08 November 2004 05:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so what are the power figures?
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Re: 5MT-E Mon, 08 November 2004 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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frank look give me a break i am a fellow MA61 driver aswell


no excuse you slackarse Very Happy

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Re: 5MT-E Mon, 08 November 2004 08:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I had a 5M-TE I made out of an old MTEU engine and a 5ME...

How much power as to how much power it can makes comes down to what is done to it...

I had a stock 5me bottom end an O ringed block t3 turbo off a vl commodore that had been hi flowed (Not sure of the exact specs) FMIC and aftermarket fuel injection with 440cc injectors... The car got 215 odd hp at the wheels
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Re: 5MT-E Mon, 08 November 2004 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fuck that, might aswell do the 7M instead
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Re: 5MT-E Mon, 08 November 2004 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TRD_Celica wrote on Mon, 08 November 2004 23:33

fuck that, might aswell do the 7M instead



Well it all depends on what else you have done to the car... I can tell you that anything approaching 200hp at the wheels on a MA61 you will have MAJOR traction issues.

Whilst i went for a 1jzgte for reasons of driveability etc. I found that the biggest hurdle was never the power but just getting that power to the ground without flying all over the road.

But if you can get the power to the ground a 5MTE powered ma61 can easily dispach stock WRX's and the like

To give you an idea an MA61 with a 1jzgte with just exauhst mods yields around 220-230hp at the wheels
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Re: 5MT-E Mon, 08 November 2004 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stark wrote on Mon, 08 November 2004 21:06

Well it all depends on what else you have done to the car... I can tell you that anything approaching 200hp at the wheels on a MA61 you will have MAJOR traction issues.

Bah, I have 240hp at the wheels, and I have no traction issues, unless I decide to.
And I only have 205 width tyres too.

Now, come the rain, its a different story, but MAXXIS tyres aren't really known for their wet weather grip
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Re: 5MT-E Mon, 08 November 2004 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CrUZsida wrote on Tue, 09 November 2004 00:19

stark wrote on Mon, 08 November 2004 21:06

Well it all depends on what else you have done to the car... I can tell you that anything approaching 200hp at the wheels on a MA61 you will have MAJOR traction issues.

Bah, I have 240hp at the wheels, and I have no traction issues, unless I decide to.
And I only have 205 width tyres too.




Amen to that. Wet roads plus 200+hp = undie changing experiences in most cases.
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Re: 5MT-E Mon, 08 November 2004 22:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Atleast you guys have IRS which sags a little and takes up some tourque. Try driving a live rear end with only an 1' of travel with a nice tight Limo in the wet.

what makes it harder is the Bus size steering wheel and the 5 turns Lock to Lock

The Wagon only has 150rwhp. Mind you I will give you that your turbo's will add to the wet undies to. N/A power would be a little easier to drive.
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Re: 5MT-E Mon, 08 November 2004 23:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CrUZsida wrote on Mon, 08 November 2004 23:19

Bah, I have 240hp at the wheels, and I have no traction issues, unless I decide to.

I have 305hp at the wheels with a buttload of torque, and likewise I have no traction problems with decent quality tyres unless I'm really pushing it.

At the moment I have shithouse tyres on the back though, and it's wheelspin city! Tyres make all the difference.
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Re: 5MT-E Tue, 09 November 2004 00:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so do u thikn i should opt for the 7M.. i need a cheap convertion that is easy and to gain a significant amount of power
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Re: 5MT-E Tue, 09 November 2004 00:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If you can find a good 5mge or 6mge, its a worth while upgrade.

Converting to manual as well will increase driveability and fun through the roof (that is if its currently auto)

That said, if you can find a 7mge, with loom and ecu for a good price, do it.
Just make sure you get everything (after, coil, ignitor etc)
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Re: 5MT-E Tue, 09 November 2004 01:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well this 5ME is meant to be in good condition for its age and it had a new 5spd put in 9 months ago, was previously manuel tho! Very Happy
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Re: 5MT-E Tue, 09 November 2004 01:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TRD_Celica wrote on Tue, 09 November 2004 09:45

well this 5ME is meant to be in good condition for its age

A shitty 5mge will prolly put out more power than a good 5me any day anyway.

Decide what you want with the car, and how much you want to spend.

If you decide you want the car for at least a few years, and you don't mind spending about 10k, get a 1jz/2jz/1uz
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Re: 5MT-E Tue, 09 November 2004 02:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well i think 10K is a little to much to spend.. i would rather a nice SW20. how much u reckon a 7M swap would cost
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Re: 5MT-E Tue, 09 November 2004 02:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
7mgte + FMIC + zorst + new clutch + bits and bobs.

Umm, prolly $3k ontop of the purchase of the motor, wiring, and ecu.

Depends how cheap you get stuff.
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Re: 5MT-E Tue, 09 November 2004 05:43 Go to previous message
With 10k you could go 2jz or 1jz with a few upgrades will shit all over an sw20 Very Happy
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