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KOFFEE-BLACK
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TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Mon, 08 November 2004 02:50 Go to next message
Hey guys,

The stock 1GFE doesnot have a return fuel line with the stock pump, will the TT Supra pump (JZA80) I put in work?
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Mon, 08 November 2004 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
doesn't have a return line? How can that be? I thought every fuel system had to have a return line?

are they both internal fuel pumps?
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Mon, 08 November 2004 05:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, its very strange, I dunno how it works, lets hope they way we fit it is ok. Yep, both internal.
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Mon, 08 November 2004 05:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I assume the 1JZ you are using uses a regular pressure regulator to control the fuel pressure. If this is the case then you will have to install a fuel return line for the fuel rail outlet otherwise yes the pump will work with no return however you will quickly end up with an engine bay drenched in fuel.
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Mon, 08 November 2004 06:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah the 1jz has a FPR on the end of the stock fuel rail.

from there, there are two pipes. One little one that goes into plenum and the other one is a larger one which will connect to a metal pipe that is bolted to the side of the plenum. Then you should run fuel hose to fuel lines and back to the tank.

That is how mine is anyway. Good luck.
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Mon, 08 November 2004 06:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
damn! I so in other words, I need to run another fuel line from the pump to the motor?
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Mon, 08 November 2004 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I assume you'll need to run a new line from the pressure regulator to the tank.
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Tue, 09 November 2004 03:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok, hope thats not a big job!! See How I go,

Cheers!
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Tue, 09 November 2004 04:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if there is no return line then the fuel pump is controlled to regulate the pressure, rather than going full nut and the pressure reg regulating the pressure.
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Tue, 09 November 2004 04:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I wonder how they get around vapour lock if the fuel isn't constantly circulating?
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Tue, 09 November 2004 04:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmm, I have no idea what you guys are talking about hahaha, but the car just started (Finallly!!! over 6 months) surprisingly, it started first go, and idles good with the stock IS200 ECU, but fuel waas pissing out from the fuel rail, wwe are going to block the return, hopefully, this is all we have to do!

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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Tue, 09 November 2004 05:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Returnless fuel rail. pump regulates pressure so there is no need for pressure reg.

normal setup requires a pressure reg and a return line to regulate the pressure..

fuel pissing out? sounds very very scary...
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Tue, 09 November 2004 05:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ahh, thanks oldcorolla,

So, how can we over come this? do we need to run another fuel return line? I would think so.
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Tue, 09 November 2004 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wasn't that question already answered? Rolling Eyes

And yes, very scary you started it up with the FPR outlet pissing all over your engine bay. Not so smart.
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Tue, 09 November 2004 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Block off the return on the fuel rail.

However, before you do any full boost runs, make sure the fuel pressure with the IS200 fuel pump and intrinsic regulator is adequate.

If not you might possibly consider IS/GS300 or LS430 fuel pump (one with an intrinsic regulator - you'll want to check that flow/pressure are adequate under boost conditions).

Or ultimately you may need to run a return line with the stock FPR and a non regulated fuel pump.
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Tue, 09 November 2004 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cheers guys,

I have a Supra TT Fuel pump in there at the moment Tomato.
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Tue, 09 November 2004 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shane

My IS200 has a 2nd line but it is not used for fuel return. It is used to draw the vapour from the tank. It connects to the inlet just under the throttle valve body.

At the moment I have the return line connected to it but haven't run the pump to make sure it can be used for return of the fuel.

Let me know how yours go without the return line - I may have to disconnect it yet.
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Wed, 10 November 2004 05:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Graham, does your VVTi 1JZGTE fuel rail have a return? My VVTi 2JZGE doesn't, but the motor came from a late GS300 with an in-tank fuel pressure regulator.
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Re: TT Supra Fuel Pump in IS200 Wed, 10 November 2004 05:19 Go to previous message
deesonet wrote on Tue, 09 November 2004 22:10

Shane

My IS200 has a 2nd line but it is not used for fuel return. It is used to draw the vapour from the tank. It connects to the inlet just under the throttle valve body.

At the moment I have the return line connected to it but haven't run the pump to make sure it can be used for return of the fuel.

Let me know how yours go without the return line - I may have to disconnect it yet.


yeah, as Gianttomato asked, are you talking about the 1GFE or the 1JZGTE?
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