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WHITCHY
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Do all engine conversions need to be engineered? Fri, 12 November 2004 13:30 Go to next message
I did a quick search and couldnt find any answers, and I figure this is a simple question to answer so I am making a post.

A guy put a 20V into an Aus Sprinter, does the car need to be engineered or go through any other processes to be road legal?
He said it doesnt need it as it is the same series of engines?

I was under the assumption that every time you put a new engine in a car it had to get a blueslip to say it is roadworthy with the new engine, and if the engine being put in is different to previous one e.g. 20v replacing 4A-C then it would need an engineers certificate also?
Can someone please clear this up for me?

Thanks muchly.
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Re: Do all engine conversions need to be engineered? Fri, 12 November 2004 13:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Learning from other ppl on this forum, if the engine has more power or is not the orginal engine 4A-C then it needs engineering. Someone just done a 20v conversion into a rolla 87 model, for only $350 or somthing close to that to get it engineerd

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Re: Do all engine conversions need to be engineered? Sat, 13 November 2004 01:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have read that if the car you are putting the engine into came out with the motor you are putting in from factory somewhere in the lineup you do not need an engineer's certificate.

For example.. Changing a 4AFE Seca CSi to the 4AGE 100Kw motor.
Because the SX's came out standard with the 4AGE.
So if a sprinter came out with a 20v motor your sweet, if not go to an engineer. * can someone elaborate on this.. i dont know much about the sprinters...

But if in doubt, talk to ya local engineer or RTA. Probably not the latter tho.. RTA scares me Sad
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Re: Do all engine conversions need to be engineered? Sat, 13 November 2004 03:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
In NSW,
cars only need to be engineered if there is a 25% or greater increase in capacity or change to forced induction.
otherwise you just have to get it blue slipped.

i got my 4AGE sprinter registered no probs.

ie, putting a 20v in a sprinter will not need to be engineered, a 4AGZE will, as it's forced induction.

but yeah, check with RTA before you start anything.
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Re: Do all engine conversions need to be engineered? Sat, 13 November 2004 04:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nope aslong as that engine was produced in the same chassis you use the brakes and any other crutial parts from the more powerful car and that the power increase is no more than 15% it is considered a light vehicle modification and only needs a blue slip from the pits. Thats all i did with the aw11 mr2 putting a 4agze in. Easy peasy.
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Re: Do all engine conversions need to be engineered? Sat, 13 November 2004 04:26 Go to previous message
SPRINTAH! wrote on Sat, 13 November 2004 14:43

In NSW,
cars only need to be engineered if there is a 25% or greater increase in capacity or change to forced induction.
otherwise you just have to get it blue slipped.




It depends on the motors standard power output if you put a b818c into a sprinter you would have problems. And yeah sprintah is right if you any doubts call the rta they have a hotline for you to call and their engineers will tell you whats legal and illegal.

Or you can get your hands on a ADDR book. They are worth their weight in gold.

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