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Blue mtns
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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Re: dizzy on 4AGC???
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Tue, 23 November 2004 12:12
 
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| whatcrazyguy wrote on Tue, 23 November 2004 23:07 |
i'm in the process of doing a rebuild on a 86kw 4AG, and when i install it in my 86, i'm going to drop some sidedraft webers on it (all the hot race engines run carbs!!).
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sorry, but thats the funniest thing i've heard all week 
how many top level race cars use carbs when they are not restricted to them (ie nascar)???
Cya, Stewart
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: dizzy on 4AGC???
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Tue, 23 November 2004 12:21
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If you MUST insist on using carbs (lord knows why!!..), then you're better off using something mappable for the ignition. However, and only if you inisist, you can quite readily get a dizzy custom made to bolt straight in there. Why the hell would you want to though?
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane, Queensland
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January 2003
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Re: dizzy on 4AGC???
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Tue, 23 November 2004 12:24
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coz if racers do it then it must make you a racer
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: dizzy on 4AGC???
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Tue, 23 November 2004 12:32
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"i am testament to the ability of the 4AC. it can definatly drift, from entry - to exit. and in the dry too"
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane, Queensland
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Re: dizzy on 4AGC???
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Tue, 23 November 2004 12:34
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haha i saw that and even clicked reply.. but my conscience got the better of me
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Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: dizzy on 4AGC???
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Wed, 24 November 2004 03:08
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there are a few ignition modules that are on ebay for sale to suit 4a/3s carby motors
I have NFI if they are mapable, from what i can see they have fixed map and everything, pop up on ebay from time to time
Otherwise you could get a megasquirt and run it soley for spark control, thatway, you can ass the carbies for quads and have it control the fuel as well
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Ireland
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May 2002
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Re: dizzy on 4AGC???
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Wed, 24 November 2004 09:54
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http://www.vhtracing.com/pasin_stara/DSC01938.jpg
Note the custom TPS mount bracket on the above webers.
Tap the 4 inlet runners and voila, vacuum advance your stock ae86 ecu can understand.
Were gonna be trying this setup very soon, will keep ye posted!
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Blue mtns
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November 2003
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Re: dizzy on 4AGC???
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Thu, 25 November 2004 08:59
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thanks for the help guys.
except those dickheads who posted first
have you guys ever seen a formula atlantic 4AG before? they don't run quad throttles, they run carbies. if you don't believe me, go look at the "levin and trueno bible" for one. the 20 valve group A race engine has done away with the fuel injection and gone for the carbs.
i'm doing this on a budget, and i think it's an interesting conversion. whether you guys agree is beyond the point, you don't need to bag me for it.
besides, i can and do drift. if you don't believe me, come to oran park tomorrow night where they have the off street drift meets. then you'll think differently.
don't take it out on me if you can't drive for shit.
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Adelaide
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May 2003
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Re: dizzy on 4AGC???
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Thu, 25 November 2004 09:05
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I think youll find that they run quad throttles. Just like the TODA racing engines, oh and the JGTC racing engines, oh wait and most of the other racing engines. Just like mine
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: dizzy on 4AGC???
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Thu, 25 November 2004 09:42
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I've got nothing against people who use carbs for the challenge, but if you're not either limited to them, or like the challenge, EFI is both simpler and more effective.
Also, the formula atlantic 4AGs use serious head and cams, very expensive innards, intake and exhaust pipes you'd give your own mother for, and EFI  Got a pic of one with carbs? I'd be interested to see it...
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Blue mtns
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November 2003
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Re: dizzy on 4AGC???
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Thu, 25 November 2004 11:53
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mrshin, i'll pm you the pics, as i don't know how to post photos... 
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Montrose, VIC
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Perth
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August 2004
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Re: dizzy on 4AGC???
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Thu, 25 November 2004 13:41
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Nope sorry the formula atlantics to my research NEVER came with carbs... as the photos from the previously mentioned link shows
http://www.mr2supercharger.com/AtlanticEngine1998. html
They run off individual throttle bodies with EFI....
A carbed 1.6 litre making 156BHP per litre??? i think not...
On a more helpful note you could run a Ford EDIS ignition system and use a MegaJoltLT to give you fully programmable distributerless ignition in wasted spark mode (Just like the formula atlantic motors)
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