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4AGZE into Ae71
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Sat, 27 November 2004 11:38
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Hey All
The time has come for the trusty ol 4AC from the Ae71 to be upgraded with a 4AGZE from an Ae101 half cut.
Ive got a few questions / queries about the conversion.
To what i know, theoretically the 4AGZE just bolts into the Ae71 using the stock cross member. Because the Ae101 is a FWD, and the Ae71 is RWD, what parts beside from a RWD exhaust manifold will i need to purchase to ensure a successful conversion?
Also, i know the fuel system is going to have to be upgraded - what would be the best way to go about this?
I know the 4AGZE will hook up to the Ae71 t50 g-box and drive train, but god knows how long it will all last - so, i just want to confirm that a T series Diff + Tail shaft (from T18) will bolt up to the underside of the Ae71, and hook into the Ae71's T50. Correct?
Electrical... eh - any ideas how to go about that? if any one could point me in the direction of a page i could read up on, or tech article somewhere on the net? - it would be much appreciated.
Toymods has a prity good front break upgrade for RWD corollas tutorial which ill be following, so atm i don't see any problems with upgrading the breaks.
Ive herd rumors that the supercharger on the Ae101 needs to have the bracket bent up a bit so that it clears the engine bay in the Ae71 - is this correct or not ?
1 more thing - are there any real Delmer's / things that need to be custom / changed when it comes to doing this conversion?
Talking to an engineer person asap, so it will be all road legal 
7K budget should be good enough, thanks to every one for reading this, and hopefully helping me out
Cheers
Matt
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I supported Toymods
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Perth, WA
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May 2003
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Re: 4AGZE into Ae71
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Sat, 27 November 2004 11:54
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same as 4agze into ae86 pretty much
do search and check tech docs
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On Probation
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Re: 4AGZE into Ae71
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Sat, 27 November 2004 11:56
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i found the "FWD_To_RWD_4A-GE" about 2 mins after i posted that post  - but thanks for your reply
but im sure there will be some things i dont understand 
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: 4AGZE into Ae71
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Sun, 28 November 2004 03:29
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T18 diff will fit, but the T18 tailshaft will have a different slip yoke that will not fit the AE71 gearbox. If your AE71 has a two piece tailshaft, then you may be able to use just the rear half of the T18 shaft.
Cheers
Phil
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: 4AGZE into Ae71
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Sun, 28 November 2004 03:41
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i currently run T18 gbox, tailshaft and diff. The T18 box has the 20 pline output shaft opposed to the AE71 22 spline, but both being 2 piece shafts it should be ok to combine the two pices.
You will also have to use a 4age flywheel + clutch as the GZE doesnt fir in the T50 bellhousing.
My PERSONAL opinion is screw the whole T series idea and get an F series or G series from Crown or Hilux respectively. Then get a W58 + custom bellhousing + modified tailshaft and NEVER worry about snapage.
You will need to install a pilot bearing. FWD motors dont have them. Cost ~ $2.00
Fuel pump - an intank or JE camira external will do the trick..... plenty of info on doing that.
Wiring.... well there are only a few wires from the engine loom and ECU which connect to the body.
# 12V permanent
# Ignition [EFI MAIN] (relay required - the toyota "silver can style" in the relay box at the battery works well - even labelled too!
# Circ open relay
# Fuel pump wire
# Earth, i think
# Brake lamp
thats about it i think
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: 4AGZE into Ae71
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Sun, 28 November 2004 07:22
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Here's an old photo of my KE70 4AG when I was halfway through doing it, hence the reason it's so messy!
http://www.comcen.com.au/~sheehan/Grey%20Whitey%20 006.jpg
On the RH tower you'll see a black can with hoses going to it - that's a fuel pot I spent all of about 30 minutes making from a piece of old tailshaft, with a pump on the bottom of it. It's fed with an old Mazda electric pump I had lying around. Cheap, nasty, but effective way to get fuel to your engine, and I even managed to get a RWC with it 
Oh, and if you run out of fuel with that setup, you're OUT - when I did this once, there wasn't so much as a single drop anywhere in the system 
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Sydney
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October 2003
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On Probation
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Re: 4AGZE into Ae71
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Sun, 28 November 2004 22:21
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wow
thankyou for that people..thats great !!
ill keep you updated with whats the go
a pic of the donar car -> 
thanks again !!
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On Probation
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Re: 4AGZE into Ae71
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Mon, 29 November 2004 01:04
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chrizer -> 'You need to convert the cooling system to rwd. I ran hoses from the back water outlets to the front. Follow WITZL's tech article in the FAQ section."
i have looked evey where for it... and i cannot find it. could i get the think to the page?
thanks:)
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Sydney
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October 2003
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On Probation
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Re: 4AGZE into Ae71
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Mon, 29 November 2004 10:40
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ahh thanks for that !
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