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elmincredible
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5K Questions about 5K Tue, 30 November 2004 12:16 Go to next message
Hey All!

I've tried having a look around the site and google for the info i need, but i havent actually managed to find it, so i thought i'd bug you guys.

i have a KE36 Wagon, with a 5k engine that supposedly has a 3K head.

my questions are, where the hell does a 5K come from, what is its standard power rating and how can i tell if the head is infact a 3K?

also is there a non dodgy way of lowering leaf suspension?

lastly my friend just dropped a 350 HEMI into a crown, he wants me to go for a ride, should i? i mean really?

cheers

EI

[Updated on: Tue, 30 November 2004 12:18]

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Teddy_Csx
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Re: 5K Questions about 5K Tue, 30 November 2004 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hi there.
1. 5k came out of a lite ace (KM 36).
2. 3k head...well i know the bigports have a welsh plug in the back. Ive got no idea how u could tell if its a stock 3k head.
3. Leaf suspension.. well u- oh NON dodgy - no frekin clue then!
4. should you go for a ride? no. Why? how old is the driver and how much power is in a 351 ? Sorry, i just dont like the idea of people splatter on toyota's. Confused

But a worked 5k in a Ke36 wagon should go nicely Smile
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Re: 5K Questions about 5K Tue, 30 November 2004 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey cheers man, i never knew a liteace had the potential to go hard... lol this wagon is off tap

i love seeing people in ricey swifts and hookin up along side then taking off, they look is priceless! "wtf? how the hell is that possible??" lol

i kinda believe the head thing co it does have what feels like rather high compression (basically it loses traction rather well....)

anyway, i have heard a light brush with an arc flame will alow me to undo they clips then lighten the leaves... i am probably wrong so if anyone wants to jump in and save me from hurting myself... now would be a good idea...

and as for this crown, i dunno the power but i have a feeling its the power to weight ratio that will matter... he's like 20 something and a bit of a psycho, he enjoys whiteposting in a sigma or scaring anybody in a worked LH torana. by the way whiteposting is suddenly swerving off the road to skittle as many reflector posts as possible before something big and nasty gets in the way... same rule with pigeons rabbits and other non domestic animals... oddly enough, never had a car accident excepting when somone pulled a u-turn onto him.

lol cheers

EI
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oldcorollas
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Re: 5K Questions about 5K Tue, 30 November 2004 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
3K head had about 33ml combustion chamber.
5K head has around 16/17mls combustion chamber.

if you have dished 5K pistons then you would have very low compression
if you have flat top pistons, youmay have high compression.

do a compression test and see (and let us know)

no dodgy leaf lowering? get them reset, or get new ones made.
Cya, Stewart

5K has more torque but not necessarily more power in stock form.. they are a van motor Wink and are cammed to suit.
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Re: 5K Questions about 5K Tue, 30 November 2004 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i have no idea what pistons i would have, i know it has rather high compression, and it definately powers a hell of a lot better than my old 3k powerd KE55

so basically you dont think it could have a 3K head?

EI
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Re: 5K Questions about 5K Tue, 30 November 2004 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
elmincredible wrote on Wed, 01 December 2004 00:00



anyway, i have heard a light brush with an arc flame will alow me to undo they clips then lighten the leaves... i am probably wrong so if anyone wants to jump in and save me from hurting myself... now would be a good idea...

and as for this crown, i dunno the power but i have a feeling its the power to weight ratio that will matter... he's like 20 something and a bit of a psycho


don;t go for a ride. alive is better..

as for leaf packs, i bashed them open with a sledgehammer on a concrete driveway... seriously Wink
not safe Wink get a good suspension place to do it..

as for flat tops, look down spark plug hole with a torch while turning over.

and actually measure the compresion as that figure will help to determine what head it is.
Cya, Stewart
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elmincredible
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Re: 5K Questions about 5K Tue, 30 November 2004 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok cool, sound advise. it appears i have more to learn. anyway cheers for all help

does anyone know where i can find more info on the 5k engine, such as power output etc?
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doityourself
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Re: 5K Questions about 5K Wed, 01 December 2004 02:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey man the 5K has hydraulic lifters and the 3K and 4K's have solid lifters, pull off the rocker cover and have a look. If you have a 5K with a 3K head then the motor will have solid lifters and a custom made cam.

As for lowering try and get lowering blocks for the rear and some custom spring for the front Give Industrial Springs a call. They are in the white pages.

As for this mate with the Hemi, ask him if you can drive for a once around the block with him as the passenger or not at all. There is no point waisting a perfectly good life for 2 minutes of fum, 3 hours of pain and eternity of death.

Yours sincerely Dale.
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Re: 5K Questions about 5K Wed, 01 December 2004 03:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
doityourself wrote on Wed, 01 December 2004 13:48

Hey man the 5K has hydraulic lifters and the 3K and 4K's have solid lifters, pull off the rocker cover and have a look. If you have a 5K with a 3K head then the motor will have solid lifters and a custom made cam.



lifter info is good, but you don't have to have solid lifters to run a 3K head. i've run combinations of K, 3K and 4K gear (ie valves, rockers, rocker towers) in a variety of heads, and the rocker gear also fits 5K heads.. so you can have non-adjust rockers on a 3K head, and vice versa.
the only real way to tell is if it is a bigport head (ie 22010 (K) or 24010 (3K) ) or to measure the combustion chamber volume.
Cya, Stewart
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doityourself
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Re: 5K Questions about 5K Wed, 01 December 2004 04:43 Go to previous message
I think this is what you are after.
here is a link to verify and below is what i have copied from the site http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/8533/,
bore and stroke info from http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/stepho/en gcodes.htm#EngineSpecs

Displacement - 1486cc
Engine model - 5K-U
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 70 ps (51.48 kw) / 4800 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 11.7 kg*m (114.74 N*m) / 3200 rpm
Power density 15.29
Engine type Water cooling serial 4 cylinder OHV
Engine information
Fuel system Carburetor (two barrel single)
Turbocharger No
Fuel type Unleaded regular gasoline
LEV system (Low emission vehicle) No
Compression ratio 9.3
Bore, 80.5 mm
Stroke, 73.0 mm
Final gear ratio
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km 7.9
Fuel consumption at 60 km/h, l/100km
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