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StuntDemon
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Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 03:44 Go to next message
Is it just me or is every second driver in melbourne blind/deaf and can't drive!!!....5 mins ago i drove down the rd to maccas which is a 2 min drive and theres this 1 guy swerving across the road...later at a round about 2 cars went through after i went in the round about, the second car almost slamming into me. Is everyone in melbourne crazy of just me?
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 03:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nope, every second person in Melbourne doesn't know how to drive.
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 03:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I get shocked every time I'm on the road in Melbourne, the drivers don't seem to comprehend road rules, or even understand what those white stripes on the road are for...
The amount of dangerous driving done in Melbourne outnumbers everywhere else I've been (in Australia at least).
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 03:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
drivers everywhere! not just you/melbourne
its just lack or care and attention.
there are lots of excuses, everyone can drive like that.
tired, angry, don't care, etc.

but you should, and its sad not to.

*mumbles*

I get to see it all the time on my short 10min journey to and from work every day, oh and to the shops etc.

just hope for the best, and hope they have insurance ^_^
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 03:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I don't see why Vicroads don't make people sit a "refresher" test every year...that way more assholes would be off the road and they would get more funding..win win
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 03:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oh yeah, I hear victorians are bad, well worse than western australians.
I was merging at one of those silly merge lanes RIGHT after traffic lights (like 10m) leaving 3m or so room infront of me to the next car.. cause I know drivers CANT merge for biscuits.

and this car powers past, jumps on the brakes, and shoves his way in.. so I jump on the horn.. then notice.. VICTORIAN NUMBERPLATES.

ahh well.

gotta keep the cool on the roads nowdays (:
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 03:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I don't think it's because they don't know the rules. They just don't care about following them...
So a refresher won't solve a thing.
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 04:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I freaking hate how un-courteous people are! Nobody will ever let you in!! And whats the deal with so many people coming out of their lane around corners? It's not like soft sweeping corners are tricky at 60Kph!! Rolling Eyes

I hate the way everyone thinks they will get to their destination faster if they split up accross all three lanes. THEN they travel PAINFULLY slowly up to 5km/h below the speed limit and just sit there. Like, HELLO! You're going so freekin' slow, why not all merge up to the left so those of us who know what WOT feels like can get to the speed limit in a timely fassion?

/rant
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 04:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
haha
if I am WOT.. usually wouldn't take too much notice in rear view untill up to speed and not accelling anymore.. then change lanes 'when things settle down'
and let anyone/if anyone there past.
Smiley =
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 04:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nark wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 14:59

I don't think it's because they don't know the rules. They just don't care about following them...
So a refresher won't solve a thing.

I don't think anyone knows about the keep left over 80km/h rule (see my previous post).

I'm also prittysure nobody knows that when 2 lanes merge, and the lines just disapear (ie, the left lane doesn't have to cross broken lines to merge up) the LEFT lane actualy has right of way. NOT THE RIGHT!

The rule regarding those striped, non-raised median strips are prittymuch ignored and I doubt anyone knows the rules regarding them. Everyone drives over them then some people get shitty with me when I cut them off as I follow the road rules. I mean, hello, you're breaking the law, fuckoff.
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 04:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
setsuna wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 15:13

haha
if I am WOT.. usually wouldn't take too much notice in rear view untill up to speed and not accelling anymore.. then change lanes 'when things settle down'
and let anyone/if anyone there past.
Smiley =

My point is I know what WOT is like, and if I can be at the front at the lights I usualy end up about 3-7 car lengths ahead. THAT'S no problem. However, if I'm not in the front, everyone drives like a Granny. That's their choice, but PULL THE HELL OVER TO THE LEFT LANE so that I can get to the limit quickly. Jeez.
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shraka wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 15:06

I freaking hate how un-courteous people are! Nobody will ever let you in!! And whats the deal with so many people coming out of their lane around corners? It's not like soft sweeping corners are tricky at 60Kph!! Rolling Eyes


That's just Melbourne for ya. Melbourne drivers are rude, never let people in, and can't stay in their lanes.
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'd like to hear from a driver that resides in another city for some sort of comparison to Melbourne drivers...whats it like in your town? Cool
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 04:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
StuntDemon wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 12:49

I'd like to hear from a driver that resides in another city for some sort of comparison to Melbourne drivers...whats it like in your town? Cool


here (perth) is not so bad really.. get let in sometimes always try and let people in.. its not like it slows you down any really. 70% of the people would give a wave of thanks or whatever.

though.. central city driving at peak hour is not so nice. hehe.
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 05:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi,

I'm sure every city and country town has its quota of dickheads on the road. Sydney traffic sucks big-time, but the only area of Sydney I won't drive to is the Eastern suburbs. I have found the roads to be totally confusing out there and the drivers to be the most inconsiderate that I've met.

Many many years ago WC Fields (America comedian/actor of the 30's and 40's) got the shits with bad drivers (they were even around back then), and he went and bought twenty cars (some old 1930 looking black things) and he hired drivers and they drove in a line. When an asshole got in the way, or cut him off, or did something stupid in front of him - he didn't brake or giveway - he rammed them. He then got into the next car and proceeded along until it happened again. Within half a day he'd used up all his cars hitting inconsiderate assholes.

There's many a time when I wish I was driving an old Ford/Holden ute with massive bullbars instead of my Celica - especially at round-abouts. It'd be nice to whack into someone who is totally in the wrong. You get out and wipe their paint from your bullbar while they got a massive ding. Then, to show ultimate audacity, you call the cops on them also for being in the wrong.

That's why I hate large 4WD in the city. Most are driven by assholes and they know that someone like me in my piddly little Toyota isn't going to lock horns with them. Even if you're in the right it is little comfort when your car is banged up.

seeyuzz
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StuntDemon
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 05:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
setsuna: i thought about driving to Perth in my old cressida..don't know if I'll make it thoe Razz ... it's not just the way people drive or to say can't drive but it's also the way theres no courtesy or the way aggression is fought with aggression. I'm guilty of speeding up after i get pissed off on several occasions to get out of the path of some maniac, if only there was a solution that wasn't apart of the problem IE; rivers story of a gang of 20 cars policing the streets, haha thats a pisser...driving a car is like driving a balistic missle in a sense...the car can be a very destructive weapon, that plus road rage usually ads to temporally insanity...
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 05:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, everyone loves the right hand lane in Melbourne. Nobody seems to realise that they'll get stuck at intersections behind people turning right, they just drive on oblivious.

I also hate the f###ers who cruise along at or under the limit in the right hand lane. There was a big debate about this in the 'Drive' section of the Age. A lot of the people who do it think that they are doing some kind of service- keeping speeds down or whatever. Just pisses everyone else off and causes more agro.
Lived in Brisbane for about a year and can't say that drivers were much better up there.

StuntDemon, you're spot on- most drivers don't realise their actions can have serious consequences, that their foolish/aggressive driving can be destructive. It's scary to think how much you have to trust other people on the road
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 05:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
get this, you can turn right from the left lane in some intersections in melbourne

WTF

hahaha lol
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 05:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Called a 'hook turn',
so you don't get in the way of those annoying trams.
Ding Ding Ding!
Worst is when they get on their megaphone thingo and yell at you.

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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
spirokeet wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 16:34

I also hate the f###ers who cruise along at or under the limit in the right hand lane. There was a big debate about this in the 'Drive' section of the Age. A lot of the people who do it think that they are doing some kind of service- keeping speeds down or whatever. Just pisses everyone else off and causes more agro.

What about those people who travel BELOW THE SPEED LIMIT!?! Or those that take off at the lights so slowly, that they start breaking for the next red light before they even get up to the speed limit?! Once again, if you wanna drive slowly, fine, but MAKE FREEKIN' WAY for those of us who AREN'T afraid of traveling at what hte govornment deems a safe speed.
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 06:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
StuntDemon wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 15:49

I'd like to hear from a driver that resides in another city for some sort of comparison to Melbourne drivers...whats it like in your town? Cool


From my experience:
* Sydney drivers are extremely agressive, but you have to be with that amount of traffic.
* Canberra drivers are all Sunday Drivers and have no idea about the road around them.
* Queensland drivers try to run you off the road.
* Melbourne drivers never let you in, don't seem to obey any road rules, and can't stay in their own lane.

Melbourne, by far, is the most dangerous place I've ever driven. I can imagine that Sydney can be quite a bit intimidating if you're not a local, but at least people let you in and stay in their own lane.
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 06:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nark: *sigh being a melbournian i can agree that were all nuts as far as responsibility in the road goes. What about the roads in sydney? i mean i hear there much smaller, the ones in Europe are lanes! and America..pfft boggles the mind the amount of layers the highways have there...so in hind sight as far as luxury goes melbournians are lucky to have nice (mostly) nice roads.
Stronger policing of stupid offenses like using a mobile whilst driving, using the emergency lane on a highway or median strip, swerving lanes and such... needs to be enforced this silly season, i was thinking of taking them to the Simpson desert in the back of a dippy van then leaving them there for a week with nothing but the clothes and a bottle of water. that would also help the obesity problem were having here mainly cause the fat people would be eaten first and thats if they survive the first night of the harsh climate....bit of a rant there Razz Razz







off the topic slightly...watch out! the pelicans are fighting back!! in Adelaide a pelican dropped a fish on some guys xf windscreen (proof that birds don't like fords Razz ) Razz Razz
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 08:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I've been to a fair few differencet cities, Id rate Paris, France as the worst bunch of drivers. I am yet to go to Melbourne, but will be there soon. So i'll post my thoughts Smile
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
having driven in 4 capital cities fairly regularly id have to say brisbane wins hands down , closely followed by sydney/melbourne in a tight comparison , then adelaide.

you think melbourne drivers are inconsiderate rude and dangerous - spend a weekend driving around brisbane ..

Those guys make Melbourne look sedate and calm on the road!
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you've never driven in any asian country then
hahaha, suckas
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
somehow - i think thats a good thing !
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
StuntDemon wrote on Thu, 02 December 2004 17:48

Nark: *sigh being a melbournian i can agree that were all nuts as far as responsibility in the road goes. What about the roads in sydney? i mean i hear there much smaller, the ones in Europe are lanes! and America..pfft boggles the mind the amount of layers the highways have there...so in hind sight as far as luxury goes melbournians are lucky to have nice (mostly) nice roads.


Yep. Sydney roads are heaps smaller. I grew up in Sydney though so I don't really find a problem with them. Driving around Canberra for the last two years though, I do notice the difference a lot when I go back to Sydney.

American had HUGE lanes and they always have shitloads of them, so you don't really notice bad drivers, there's always plenty of room between you and any other cars. I'd hate to see Americans drive in Sydney... hehe

Never been to Europe so I can't comment.

Drivers in Asia just don't obey rules, but I wouldn't consider it a bad thing. It's like if you're sitting at a red light and there is no one around, in Asia, people will just go.
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 09:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i went to cambodia about 10 years ago and was riding on the back of a motorbike. They go forward in the right lanes like america.
I'm not sure if they have any official road laws back then. But turning left and a huge T intersection, which means getting in the right lane... We had to turn left into the left lane and drive thru oncoming traffic till we slowly merged/weaved pass a few oncoming other cars nad bikes before getting into the right lane. There is like one left lane and one right lane at about 10 metres wide each.

what a rush [well i was what 11?], and to think they did it everyday. Shocked
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
apparently french people are the worst drivers - if they want to get in, many will just give your car a gentle bump to let you know!

melb I've never had any troubles with, except 2 taxies nearly killing me within 2 minutes of each other - almost left skid marks for one of them (and I don't mean on the road) - but must say I'd also had 2 similar bowel-loosening experiences in sydney (thought I drive here a *lot* more often)
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
There is some camera footage here somewhere from when my mum was in france, when they park they leave their handbrake down and car out of gear and they just push cars out their way when parralel parking, watching them go under the arcda triumph is funny 4 lanes goes to 2 or something everyone guns it to get in front and just continue going 4 wide in 2 lanes. crazy buggers.

Adelaides cool specially in the work ute, coz i don't pay insurance and if some dumb rich biatch refuses to give way in his/her amg benz, i just go they soon stop or give way.
(yes i know this is wrong but hey its like having a bull bar)
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Re: Melbourne Drivers Thu, 02 December 2004 11:10 Go to previous message
when i was like 7/8 years old i remember when we drove off the ferry in melb my parents kept saying "look at what he just did we are deffinatly in melb"
I'm assuming people are pretty mad over there.
I drove for like 30 seconds maybe a minute in a hire car last year or the year before.
That hook turn thing ?????? i nearly killed us all
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