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WANTED- information on settings for 3TGTE Tue, 07 December 2004 01:25 Go to next message
Hi guys, Ive been told someone around here has a manual for a 3TGTE? I need some scans if possible, or am willing to buy the book if someone has one they are willing to sell.

I need the usual info, mains tension, bigend tension, head tension and sequence etc etc. Prefer scans of documents to ensure accuracy rather then someones opinion please.

Reply here or email me thanks, soarer21@optusnet.com.au

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Re: WANTED- information on settings for 3TGTE Tue, 07 December 2004 04:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
This is quite a good start :

http://members.optusnet.com.au/ta22rebuild/3TGTE%20tightening%20torues.jpg

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Re: WANTED- information on settings for 3TGTE Tue, 07 December 2004 07:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yet again, give Nark a nudge, I sent him all of the figures from my 3TGTE factory manual 2 years ago that he was going to put into the tech articles section of the Toymods webpage Confused

You there Nark? Razz
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Re: WANTED- information on settings for 3TGTE Tue, 07 December 2004 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
soarer21 wrote on Tue, 07 December 2004 12:25


Prefer scans of documents to ensure accuracy rather then someones opinion please.




Are you sure about that?

Learned opinions are sometimes quite worthwhile things.

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Re: WANTED- information on settings for 3TGTE Tue, 07 December 2004 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Indeed they are when backed up by fact, however this usually only occurs when there is a failing in the factory item or specification true? As far as I am aware there is not really any such occurance with the 3TG engines, but I am open to correction if its fact based Smile Taking someones unsupported learned opinion could result in an expensive learning curve should the information be based on an anomoly rather then a common fault.

Is there an issue with the 3TG engines? Other then a lack of piston strength and a low factory power output Wink

Im led to believe you have some 3T specs from when you did the one in the KE20? Any help for another 3T afficionado would be appreciated

TurboRA28, thanks for that, but do the 2TG and 3TG share specs?
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Re: WANTED- information on settings for 3TGTE Tue, 07 December 2004 13:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Use the tension listed from the 2TG, they are fine for a 3T GTE as well.
Unless you understand Japanese the 3T GTE manual won't be much help. You are better off using the 2TG manual.

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Re: WANTED- information on settings for 3TGTE Tue, 07 December 2004 13:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I dont understand Japanese but I have a multitude of sources to get translations done of any important bits Smile
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Re: WANTED- information on settings for 3TGTE Tue, 07 December 2004 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Quote:

Unless you understand Japanese the 3T GTE manual won't be much help


All of the torque settings are listed next to an diagram of all the relevant engine parts, so its quite easy to understand.

But try the read the text sections, and yes, it becomes a nightmare!
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Re: WANTED- information on settings for 3TGTE Tue, 07 December 2004 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
2TG and 3TG share the exact same specs. I like to torque the head bolts up a shade more than the factory specs, I have blown 2 x head gaskets - the first was with the factory torque setting (63ft/lbs) when combined with O rings and 25 psi, and the second was with no O rings 25psi and 75ft/lb (tuning it the day after getting it together does not help).

Currently 75ft/lbs, O rings, Hylomar on gasket - 25psi every day - no issue.

I have head studs available for the 3T GTE and 18RG which have a 1/2" UNF top thread allowing 80ft/lbs (of course thay don't need to be taken that far).
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Re: WANTED- information on settings for 3TGTE Wed, 08 December 2004 00:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mate i got the 3TGTE manual (well 2 actually) and they cost me a pretty penny. people may freak but they cost me bout $500 delivered each. from that figure there is $100 delivery as they have to be double handled from japan as no from there sends straight to OZ. therefore they had to be sent to someone i know i japan and then sent to me and cause i wanted it ASAP shipping was alot more for the overnight delivery (HEAPS MORE)

i could let one go if i can get my money back but i doubt anyone here would be willing to pay what i did for them. as for scanning them i would most definately do that for the community but one book is practically brand new and has been framed and the other is at a friends place getting translated... translation is gonna take forever cause they are doing it free of charge in their spare time as a favour for me so i dont expect to see it any time soon

further to that just listen to YelloRolla and Thetoyman75 as they have built these motors many times over and know it back to front (probably even better than the manual) they have always been kind to help me when i needed
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Re: WANTED- information on settings for 3TGTE Wed, 08 December 2004 01:02 Go to previous message
YelloRolla wrote on Wed, 08 December 2004 09:19

2TG and 3TG share the exact same specs. I like to torque the head bolts up a shade more than the factory specs, I have blown 2 x head gaskets - the first was with the factory torque setting (63ft/lbs) when combined with O rings and 25 psi, and the second was with no O rings 25psi and 75ft/lb (tuning it the day after getting it together does not help).

Currently 75ft/lbs, O rings, Hylomar on gasket - 25psi every day - no issue.

I have head studs available for the 3T GTE and 18RG which have a 1/2" UNF top thread allowing 80ft/lbs (of course thay don't need to be taken that far).



Hi mate, thanks for that info. What headgasket are you using and pistons? I'd appreciate some basic specs on what you've done to the motor if possible thanks. Mine appears to have made toast of the pistons I reckon, though I wont know for sure till I strip it. Was making 205rwhp on Redcliffe Dynos machine in Shootout mode.
Current specs are-
Trust TD05-16G
HKS external wastegate
Custom plenum
7MGTE throttle body
7MGTE coilpacks running waste spark
EMS Stinger
Walbro pump
ARC front mount
CA18DET crank angle sensor
Unopened engine (hence the breakage)

http://www.importbitz.com/images1/carina-engine01.jpg

[Updated on: Wed, 08 December 2004 01:05]

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