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V8 Supercars
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Sun, 13 October 2002 23:43
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Sun, 13 October 2002 23:52
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They should bring back all the different classes - it's not far off a one class make at the moment. The old days of group A was the best...
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I supported Toymods
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 00:02
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the ratings keep going up and up its such a great class as its the good old battle between Holden and Ford which i think will get even closer next year due to Ford pulling there finger out of there arse, do we realy want it to turn into a class like the Super Tourers which died?
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 07:10
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I think it should be regulated a bit like the brute ute series! Spending 3 million dollars on a car just isn't motorsport!
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 07:34
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I agree with you Gins... They should keep it as Holden vs Ford as it is now soo popular... Last weekend was the biggest year of Bathurst ever... New records are being set every year as the cars keep developing...
Why should it be like the Brute Utes??? Then everything would be the same... We have the Brutes, the GT Nations Cup and the Mirage series which all use cars of the showroom floor... The V8 Supercars series is something different just as the Formula One's are and the Cart World Series...
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 07:51
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Did anyone see the new BA Falcon V8 Supercar??? It was cool, even for a Ford...
Here's a pic for anyone that missed it...
Whaddya reckon???
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 08:33
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New Ford looks nearly like a Commodore. I say that they're getting with the program.
Ford and Holden is cool.
I liked the old group c.
If you reckon it looks like a one make race now just look at any old photos of the Sierra RS500 days. Heck even Peter Brock drove one! Not only that they're about as ugly as cars get!
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 08:50
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Damm that Ford is sweet! Thanks for posting that  It made me cream my pants 
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October 2002
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 09:01
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Bring back the Nissan GTR's. Noone would beat them, even today.
Sweet Ford race car. Can't wait 'til dad gets the BA XR6 turbo! 
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 09:29
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please post or attach the pic cause i'm at work behind a proxie server and i really want to see it
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Club Member
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 10:08
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Just thought I'd post the official Race Results for anyone that wanted to see 'em... Notice the first car out of teh race was a Ford Falcon and it exited on Lap no. 1... Hahaha!!! Good effort boys...
Race Results
Sunday, October 13, 2002
1 - #1 Holden Racing Team M.Skaife/J.Richards Holden Commodore 06:58:41.0260
2 - #16 Castrol Perkins Race Team S.Richards/R.Ingall Holden Commodore
3 - #2 Holden Racing Team J.Bright/T.Mezera Holden Commodore
4 - #02 Holden Racing Team R.Kelly/N.Pretty Holden Commodore
5 - #11 Castrol Perkins Race Team L.Perkins/P.Dumbrell Holden Commodore
6 - #66 Betta Electrical T.Longhurst/M.White Ford Falcon
7 - #18 Shell Helix Racing G.Ritter/A.Jones Ford Falcon
8 - #40 VIP Pet Foods Racing C.McLean/T.Scott Ford Falcon
9 - #31 Super Cheap Auto Racing S.Ellery/L.Youlden Ford Falcon 160laps
10 - #46 Dynapack / GJ Gardner Homes J.Faulkner/R.Bates Holden Commodore 160laps
11 - #021 Team Kiwi Racing J.Richards/S.Wills Holden Commodore 160laps
12 - #75 Toll Racing A.Tratt/P.Stokell Ford Falcon 160laps
13 - #51 K-Mart Racing Team G.Murphy/T.Kelly Holden Commodore 159laps
14 - #7 Data Dot Technology R.Forbes/N.Bates Ford Falcon 159laps
15 - #3 Lansvale Smash Repairs C.McConville/W.Luff Holden Commodore 159laps
16 - #21 OzEmail Racing Team B.Jones/J.Bowe Ford Falcon 158laps
17 - #600 CAT Racing S.Owen/D.Brede Ford Falcon 158laps
18 - #10 Orrcon Racing M.Larkham/W.Power Ford Falcon 157laps
19 - #888 OzEmail Racing Team J.Cleland/T.Leahey Ford Falcon 157laps
20 - #59 Transtar Express R.Searle/J.Miller Holden Commodore 155laps
21 - #4 Pirtek Racing M.Ambrose/P.Weel Ford Falcon 154laps
22 - #13 Imrie Motor Sport C.D`Agostin/D.Krause Holden Commodore 145laps
23 - #05 Team Brock C.Baird/P.Brock Holden Commodore 136laps
24 - #56 Actron Air Racing K.Mundy/M.Simpson Ford Falcon 129laps
DNF - #29 Sirromet - Life,Style,Wine P.Morris/W.Wakefield Holden Commodore 135laps
DNF - #00 Ford/Mobil/Dunlop C.Lowndes/N.Crompton Ford Falcon 127laps
DNF - #15 K-Mart Racing Team Y.Muller/A.Priaulx Holden Commodore 122laps
DNF - #65 Betta Electrical M.Wilson/D.Canto Ford Falcon 108laps
DNF - #5 Ford Credit Racing G.Seton/D.Besnard Ford Falcon 102laps
DNF - #161 3M Racing / Coopers Pale Ale G.Crick/P.Scifleet Ford Falcon 94laps
DNF - #43 Dupont / Hydralink M.Porter/G.Full Ford Falcon 93laps
DNF - #14 Imrie Motor Sport D.Beattie/T.Mecklem Holden Commodore 84laps
DNF - #22 Pepsi Racing D.McDougal/A.Gurr Holden Commodore 82laps
DNF - #35 Gary Rogers Motorsport J.Whincup/M.Noske Holden Commodore 72laps
DNF - #34 Gary Rogers Motorsport G.Tander/J.Bargwanna Holden Commodore 51laps
DNF - #17 Shell Helix Racing S.Johnson/P.Radisich Ford Falcon 29laps
DNF - #20 Brad Jones Racing A.Jones/M.Coleman Ford Falcon 14laps
DNF - #87 The Race Centre A.Grice/P.Doulman Ford Falcon 1lap
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 10:18
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I still reckon the old day were the best. Would be nice seen a V8 chaser running around .
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 10:29
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i can't access anything from there i'm behind a proxied firewall can you please save the pic :right click on it and select "save picture as" and put it as an attachment to a reply to this post
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 10:39
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Pics cannot be attached in this section of the forums... Sorry dude...
Looks like you'll have to wait until you get home...
GET BACK TO WORK!!!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 11:57
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mx83toy, Whats ya email? I'll send it to ya!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 12:25
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You got mail 
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 Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 12:36
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 thanks man . . . hey thats one sexy falcon
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 12:39
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hey no vents going to the brakes for cooling ? ? ? hhmmm ? ? ? thats not very supercar like
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 12:50
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See, I'm not agirly front bum like everyone thinks I am
And yes I noticed the lack of vents! Maybe they will come on the final race preped car?
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 12:59
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they could be in teh front intake just like the current cars and coz the intake is painted black you can't see them.
if u look real close you can just make out two dividers just inside from the intake edge - thats prolly where split off for the brakes
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 13:04
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ok prolly better...it would use the space where the vent were for aero dynamics and disturb the air only in one spot
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 13:05
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Ahh yest I see what you are talking about! Damm you need to look close though!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 13:06
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The similarities of the cars make it a good thing. I think they should publicise GTP and Nations Cup a lot better though as its a good change
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 13:08
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yeah i had to pump up the brightness
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I supported Toymods
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 22:41
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its so nice to see ford turn out a car that looks like a muscle car again
i thinks the ford vs holden racing is great but reckon toyota and misubishi should have the option to hava a homologated version to race
at least they would probably use their own diffs and suspension .... the ford 9 inch still rules
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I supported Toymods
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Mon, 14 October 2002 23:11
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I was just looking at Craig Lowndes AU race car last night. It might be just too dark to see the vents, because they were in the same spot as the radiator, the front bar looks really similar to his current one.
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Tue, 15 October 2002 03:22
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the prob with having toyota and mitsu in the v8 supercars basically revolves around the engine.
both manufacturers don't have anything that resembles a pushrod v8 hence from cost perspectives isn't wise to develop an engine for racing that then has no relevence to their product lineup.
same point can be made for making them rwd. would have to modify the floorpan too much to make it work.
suspension wise both ford and holden are going to be running common front ends due to 'project ford(blue)print" and as always rear end will stay a live axle.
mitsu and toyota could be accomodated if holden and ford were prepared to move to a dohc engine, but the is no way anyone is gonna let that happen becoz of the lack of marketibility and the cost of developing a new engine and then the associated problems of having to have 'parity' between potentially 4 different engines.
but hey... i would like to see mitsu and toyota in it. perhaps avesco and cockrane should have a look at the german DTM series and then see how you can have multiple manufacturers with some restrictions still lead to great racing. would be awesome to see a soarer, magna, commodore, falcon, and a few mercs and beemers runnign round bathurst!!
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Tue, 15 October 2002 04:17
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I don't really see the problem in the engine dept. any more...Holden and Ford don't produce cars with 5l and pushrods, hell, Ford Australia doesn't even produce a car with pushrods any more...
I think Holden should spend some of the money they didn't spend on the VY to give them a decent engine.
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Tue, 15 October 2002 07:00
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new engines for the normal commo's are out in the VE - will be dohc 60° V6 with 5 speed auto.
shame gotta wait till then tho. 
and the gen3 is gonna be round for ages... altho will become the gen4 after its released in the 2003 corvette. normal things - more power and torque
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Tue, 15 October 2002 09:17
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The commodore VE??? WTF??? When does that come out??? I know that the VZ is the next commo out but the VE???
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Wed, 16 October 2002 15:16
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How did you find out about the VE Commodore???
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Wed, 16 October 2002 19:22
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Holden continuing on from the VD sandman i see...
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melbourne
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Re: V8 Supercars
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Wed, 16 October 2002 23:33
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hehe
i wish they would bring back the sandman... would be absolutely awesome. they did an updated model of it a couple of years ago at the sydney motor show - had a wicked paint job on it.
theres been stuff on the VE in auto mags for a fair while now - i'll see if i can go back and find the articles and i'll scan em (or portions) to get some details going.
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