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V8 Supercars Sun, 13 October 2002 23:43 Go to next message

V8 Supercars[ 34 vote(s) ]
1.Only Holden and Ford should be aloud 5 / 15%
2.any v8 family sedan should be aloud 29 / 85%

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Re: V8 Supercars Sun, 13 October 2002 23:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
They should bring back all the different classes - it's not far off a one class make at the moment. The old days of group A was the best...
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 00:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the ratings keep going up and up its such a great class as its the good old battle between Holden and Ford which i think will get even closer next year due to Ford pulling there finger out of there arse, do we realy want it to turn into a class like the Super Tourers which died?
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 07:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think it should be regulated a bit like the brute ute series! Spending 3 million dollars on a car just isn't motorsport!
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i say any gt should be allowed ... by this i mean like in the old days well like the gt cup they race now....

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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I agree with you Gins... They should keep it as Holden vs Ford as it is now soo popular... Last weekend was the biggest year of Bathurst ever... New records are being set every year as the cars keep developing...

Why should it be like the Brute Utes??? Then everything would be the same... We have the Brutes, the GT Nations Cup and the Mirage series which all use cars of the showroom floor... The V8 Supercars series is something different just as the Formula One's are and the Cart World Series...
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 07:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Did anyone see the new BA Falcon V8 Supercar??? It was cool, even for a Ford...

Here's a pic for anyone that missed it...

http://www.v8supercar.com.au/v8data/2002/EVNT_106/PHOTOS/PHITP_4809.JPG

Whaddya reckon???
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
New Ford looks nearly like a Commodore. I say that they're getting with the program.
Ford and Holden is cool.
I liked the old group c.
If you reckon it looks like a one make race now just look at any old photos of the Sierra RS500 days. Heck even Peter Brock drove one! Not only that they're about as ugly as cars get!
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Damm that Ford is sweet! Thanks for posting that Very Happy It made me cream my pants Rolling Eyes
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 09:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bring back the Nissan GTR's. Noone would beat them, even today.
Sweet Ford race car. Can't wait 'til dad gets the BA XR6 turbo! Evil or Very Mad
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
please post or attach the pic cause i'm at work behind a proxie server and i really want to see it
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 10:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The picture can be found here...

http://www.v8supercar.com.au/v8data/2002/EVNT_106/ PHOTOS/PHITP_4809.JPG
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just thought I'd post the official Race Results for anyone that wanted to see 'em... Notice the first car out of teh race was a Ford Falcon and it exited on Lap no. 1... Hahaha!!! Good effort boys...

Race Results

Sunday, October 13, 2002

1 - #1 Holden Racing Team M.Skaife/J.Richards Holden Commodore 06:58:41.0260
2 - #16 Castrol Perkins Race Team S.Richards/R.Ingall Holden Commodore
3 - #2 Holden Racing Team J.Bright/T.Mezera Holden Commodore
4 - #02 Holden Racing Team R.Kelly/N.Pretty Holden Commodore
5 - #11 Castrol Perkins Race Team L.Perkins/P.Dumbrell Holden Commodore
6 - #66 Betta Electrical T.Longhurst/M.White Ford Falcon
7 - #18 Shell Helix Racing G.Ritter/A.Jones Ford Falcon
8 - #40 VIP Pet Foods Racing C.McLean/T.Scott Ford Falcon
9 - #31 Super Cheap Auto Racing S.Ellery/L.Youlden Ford Falcon 160laps
10 - #46 Dynapack / GJ Gardner Homes J.Faulkner/R.Bates Holden Commodore 160laps
11 - #021 Team Kiwi Racing J.Richards/S.Wills Holden Commodore 160laps
12 - #75 Toll Racing A.Tratt/P.Stokell Ford Falcon 160laps
13 - #51 K-Mart Racing Team G.Murphy/T.Kelly Holden Commodore 159laps
14 - #7 Data Dot Technology R.Forbes/N.Bates Ford Falcon 159laps
15 - #3 Lansvale Smash Repairs C.McConville/W.Luff Holden Commodore 159laps
16 - #21 OzEmail Racing Team B.Jones/J.Bowe Ford Falcon 158laps
17 - #600 CAT Racing S.Owen/D.Brede Ford Falcon 158laps
18 - #10 Orrcon Racing M.Larkham/W.Power Ford Falcon 157laps
19 - #888 OzEmail Racing Team J.Cleland/T.Leahey Ford Falcon 157laps
20 - #59 Transtar Express R.Searle/J.Miller Holden Commodore 155laps
21 - #4 Pirtek Racing M.Ambrose/P.Weel Ford Falcon 154laps
22 - #13 Imrie Motor Sport C.D`Agostin/D.Krause Holden Commodore 145laps
23 - #05 Team Brock C.Baird/P.Brock Holden Commodore 136laps
24 - #56 Actron Air Racing K.Mundy/M.Simpson Ford Falcon 129laps
DNF - #29 Sirromet - Life,Style,Wine P.Morris/W.Wakefield Holden Commodore 135laps
DNF - #00 Ford/Mobil/Dunlop C.Lowndes/N.Crompton Ford Falcon 127laps
DNF - #15 K-Mart Racing Team Y.Muller/A.Priaulx Holden Commodore 122laps
DNF - #65 Betta Electrical M.Wilson/D.Canto Ford Falcon 108laps
DNF - #5 Ford Credit Racing G.Seton/D.Besnard Ford Falcon 102laps
DNF - #161 3M Racing / Coopers Pale Ale G.Crick/P.Scifleet Ford Falcon 94laps
DNF - #43 Dupont / Hydralink M.Porter/G.Full Ford Falcon 93laps
DNF - #14 Imrie Motor Sport D.Beattie/T.Mecklem Holden Commodore 84laps
DNF - #22 Pepsi Racing D.McDougal/A.Gurr Holden Commodore 82laps
DNF - #35 Gary Rogers Motorsport J.Whincup/M.Noske Holden Commodore 72laps
DNF - #34 Gary Rogers Motorsport G.Tander/J.Bargwanna Holden Commodore 51laps
DNF - #17 Shell Helix Racing S.Johnson/P.Radisich Ford Falcon 29laps
DNF - #20 Brad Jones Racing A.Jones/M.Coleman Ford Falcon 14laps
DNF - #87 The Race Centre A.Grice/P.Doulman Ford Falcon 1lap


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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 10:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I still reckon the old day were the best. Would be nice seen a V8 chaser running around Very Happy .
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i can't access anything from there i'm behind a proxied firewall can you please save the pic :right click on it and select "save picture as" and put it as an attachment to a reply to this post
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pics cannot be attached in this section of the forums... Sorry dude...

Looks like you'll have to wait until you get home...
GET BACK TO WORK!!!
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mx83toy, Whats ya email? I'll send it to ya!
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icon14.gif  Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Smile thanks man . . . hey thats one sexy falcon
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey no vents going to the brakes for cooling ? ? ? hhmmm ? ? ? thats not very supercar like
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
See, I'm not agirly front bum like everyone thinks I am Very Happy

And yes I noticed the lack of vents! Maybe they will come on the final race preped car?
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
they could be in teh front intake just like the current cars and coz the intake is painted black you can't see them.

if u look real close you can just make out two dividers just inside from the intake edge - thats prolly where split off for the brakes
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok prolly better...it would use the space where the vent were for aero dynamics and disturb the air only in one spot
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ahh yest I see what you are talking about! Damm you need to look close though!
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The similarities of the cars make it a good thing. I think they should publicise GTP and Nations Cup a lot better though as its a good change Smile
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah i had to pump up the brightness
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
its so nice to see ford turn out a car that looks like a muscle car again

i thinks the ford vs holden racing is great but reckon toyota and misubishi should have the option to hava a homologated version to race

at least they would probably use their own diffs and suspension .... the ford 9 inch still rules
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Re: V8 Supercars Mon, 14 October 2002 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I was just looking at Craig Lowndes AU race car last night. It might be just too dark to see the vents, because they were in the same spot as the radiator, the front bar looks really similar to his current one.
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Re: V8 Supercars Tue, 15 October 2002 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the prob with having toyota and mitsu in the v8 supercars basically revolves around the engine.

both manufacturers don't have anything that resembles a pushrod v8 hence from cost perspectives isn't wise to develop an engine for racing that then has no relevence to their product lineup.
same point can be made for making them rwd. would have to modify the floorpan too much to make it work.

suspension wise both ford and holden are going to be running common front ends due to 'project ford(blue)print" and as always rear end will stay a live axle.

mitsu and toyota could be accomodated if holden and ford were prepared to move to a dohc engine, but the is no way anyone is gonna let that happen becoz of the lack of marketibility and the cost of developing a new engine and then the associated problems of having to have 'parity' between potentially 4 different engines.

but hey... i would like to see mitsu and toyota in it. perhaps avesco and cockrane should have a look at the german DTM series and then see how you can have multiple manufacturers with some restrictions still lead to great racing. would be awesome to see a soarer, magna, commodore, falcon, and a few mercs and beemers runnign round bathurst!!
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Re: V8 Supercars Tue, 15 October 2002 04:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I don't really see the problem in the engine dept. any more...Holden and Ford don't produce cars with 5l and pushrods, hell, Ford Australia doesn't even produce a car with pushrods any more...
I think Holden should spend some of the money they didn't spend on the VY to give them a decent engine.
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Re: V8 Supercars Tue, 15 October 2002 07:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
new engines for the normal commo's are out in the VE - will be dohc 60 V6 with 5 speed auto.

shame gotta wait till then tho. Sad

and the gen3 is gonna be round for ages... altho will become the gen4 after its released in the 2003 corvette. normal things - more power and torque
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Re: V8 Supercars Tue, 15 October 2002 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The commodore VE??? WTF??? When does that come out??? I know that the VZ is the next commo out but the VE???
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Re: V8 Supercars Tue, 15 October 2002 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
2004 i think

after the vz - completely new chassis - not just based around current one.

just hope it doesn't take too much of the current hard line euro look. some of those cars soon to come out look fugly!

and i have no idea why they are using the code VE when gonna use VZ first

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Re: V8 Supercars Wed, 16 October 2002 15:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
How did you find out about the VE Commodore???
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Re: V8 Supercars Wed, 16 October 2002 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Holden continuing on from the VD sandman i see... Very Happy
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Re: V8 Supercars Wed, 16 October 2002 23:33 Go to previous message
hehe

i wish they would bring back the sandman... would be absolutely awesome. they did an updated model of it a couple of years ago at the sydney motor show - had a wicked paint job on it.

theres been stuff on the VE in auto mags for a fair while now - i'll see if i can go back and find the articles and i'll scan em (or portions) to get some details going.
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