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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Location: Sydney
Registered: February 2003
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Re: 12" 1500wRMS subwoofer
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Thu, 09 December 2004 00:15
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that wouldnt be a typo would it?
cause 1500 wrms is a fukload of power.... never seen one that powerful before... well, at least a 12"
who knows, im probably wrong....
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Location: sydney
Registered: August 2004
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Re: 12" 1500wRMS subwoofer
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Thu, 09 December 2004 01:07
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R-jay wrote on Thu, 09 December 2004 11:15 | that wouldnt be a typo would it?
cause 1500 wrms is a fukload of power.... never seen one that powerful before... well, at least a 12"
who knows, im probably wrong....
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I dont think your wrong, its more likely 150 watts RMS but hey who noes it might be some real doof doof
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Location: Australia
Registered: May 2004
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Re: 12" 1500wRMS subwoofer
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Thu, 09 December 2004 01:41
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its not 1500w RMS, if u click on the link to the manual it says on the left its 1500w MAX, and 700w nominal power handing to the right, meaning its 700w RMS.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: February 2003
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Re: 12" 1500wRMS subwoofer
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Thu, 09 December 2004 03:47
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actually, unless it actually says WRMS, it probably is PMPO which equates to probably the typical 200WRMS max....
i hate it how they put it in pmpo to trick people into thinking it's real kickass.... if you want to be sure, always look for the figure in WRMS or RMS... if it doesnt say so, then it's pmpo which is gay.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500wRMS subwoofer
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Thu, 09 December 2004 09:32
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no, its 700wRMS, 1500wRMS program power.
Peak power is about 6400 watts
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Location: Sydney
Registered: February 2003
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Re: 12" 1500wRMS subwoofer
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Fri, 10 December 2004 00:05
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well bend me over and spank me silly....
that must be some real serious doofage...
sorry if we doubted you mate...
whoever buys this might need to get windows changed regularly, hehe
good luck with the sale
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Registered: December 2004
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Registered: December 2004
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Re: 12" 1500wRMS subwoofer
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Wed, 15 December 2004 00:42
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wot do u do with this enclosure wise ?
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I supported Toymods
Location: Frankston, Victoria
Registered: April 2004
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500wRMS subwoofer
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Thu, 16 December 2004 06:33
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Phrostbyte wrote on Wed, 15 December 2004 17:35 | ok just to clarify... nominal power is NOT rms, it is a power level that it can sustain for a certain amount of time. RMS stands for Root Mean Square, basically with most calculations it is basically maximum power divided by 4, meaning approx. 375WRMS, if that.
Just clearing this up for people... sorry to invade.
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nominal IS rms einstein.
Sorry..i only built speakers for about three years...who am i to know about power ratings
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500wRMS subwoofer
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Thu, 16 December 2004 06:35
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to prove it. Someone bring the biggest baddest amplifier available over and we can test it out.
Ruger - it needs an approximate litreage of about 32L, with large bass ports (75mm round x 2 @440mm long)
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Location: A.C.T
Registered: May 2004
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Re: 12" 1500wRMS subwoofer
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Thu, 16 December 2004 12:57
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ok well i have a amp sitting right next to me that puts out 3 kwrms you keen?
bring the sub to me and lets see.
what voice coil config does it have?
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I supported Toymods On probation
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Registered: January 2003
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Re: 12" 1500wRMS subwoofer
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Thu, 16 December 2004 13:44
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Yay for silly amounts of power and bass!!!
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500wRMS subwoofer
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Fri, 17 December 2004 04:08
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Shieldsy wrote on Thu, 16 December 2004 22:57 | ok well i have a amp sitting right next to me that puts out 3 kwrms you keen?
bring the sub to me and lets see.
what voice coil config does it have?
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single 4 ohm.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Thu, 23 December 2004 15:00
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bump
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Location: bendigo, VIC
Registered: October 2004
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Location: bendigo, VIC
Registered: October 2004
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Fri, 24 December 2004 02:20
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if you think im talking shit then visit www.orioncaraudio.com and www.earthquakesound.com and see for yourself.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Thu, 30 December 2004 12:15
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Tue, 11 January 2005 12:27
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for an extra 100 i can get a custom ported box for it....
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Mon, 24 January 2005 13:38
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What the hell over 6K rms watts out of a 12 inch? dats hextic shyt
ive got a 15" hifonics *if any of yous remember the brand* and it has no where near 6Kwatts as far as i know
but who knows there are strange things out there... realli would like to see a 12" put out that power!!!
obrian glass would make a killing!!!
hahahahaaa
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Location: bendigo, VIC
Registered: October 2004
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Mon, 24 January 2005 14:03
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dude its not that uncommon.
for example apart from my orions that are 2000wrms and the alpine type x which is 1000wrms. there are digital designs which are about 2500wrms if im not mistaken.. (these are all 10" too i might add)
so i believe that this sub is 1500wrms and if i didnt already have a good setup i'd have bought it already...
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Tue, 25 January 2005 04:57
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some people need to grow a brain, or just shut the fuck up.
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Location: bendigo, VIC
Registered: October 2004
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Tue, 25 January 2005 08:25
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too true, but you get free bumps from it
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Location: Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered: September 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Wed, 26 January 2005 13:41
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Ill ask my mate tommorow, im sure he will be very interested, if i had the cash id love to buy it.
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Location: Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered: September 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Wed, 26 January 2005 15:33
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Ill start at $100, just to get this going...
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Location: brisbane
Registered: October 2004
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Re: 12" 1500wRMS subwoofer
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Sun, 30 January 2005 10:37
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Shieldsy wrote on Thu, 16 December 2004 23:57 | ok well i have a amp sitting right next to me that puts out 3 kwrms you keen?
bring the sub to me and lets see.
what voice coil config does it have?
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3000w rms... enough to power a small city
having built quite a few sound systems id like to see
an amp that big, biggest iv seen is about 2000w rms
monoblock
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Location: bendigo, VIC
Registered: October 2004
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Re: 12" 1500wRMS subwoofer
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Sun, 30 January 2005 11:37
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styler wrote on Sun, 30 January 2005 21:37 |
Shieldsy wrote on Thu, 16 December 2004 23:57 | ok well i have a amp sitting right next to me that puts out 3 kwrms you keen?
bring the sub to me and lets see.
what voice coil config does it have?
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3000w rms... enough to power a small city
having built quite a few sound systems id like to see
an amp that big, biggest iv seen is about 2000w rms
monoblock
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well you havent built any dB drag rigs have you???... my D2 which is for sale puts out 2000wrms @ 2 ohm... im running it @ 1 ohm so its a little over that ... also the e-audio 3000d does 3000wrms @ 2ohm and 5000wrms max... then at the top of the line is the JBL crown 6000gti i believe... 6000wrms @ 1 ohm... mmm $6000 well spent there...
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Sun, 30 January 2005 11:52
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doobs wrote on Thu, 27 January 2005 01:33 | Ill start at $100, just to get this going...
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its a start, but its not enough
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Location: Adelaide, SA
Registered: June 2004
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Mon, 31 January 2005 04:49
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I have to doubt the validity of the 1500WRMS claim. Looking at the speaker (Provided it is the one in the pdf in the first post) the motor does not look any bigger than my 200WRMS Sony sub. I also have a 1600WRMS sub with a max of 4500WRMS thermally tested. It is an Adire Brahma for those that want to check and the motor stack is about 6-7cm. The one in the brochure looks about 1-2cm which wont take large amount of power without melting the Voice Coil.
I think it is still a good buy for the price, but doubt it will take that amount of power.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Mon, 31 January 2005 06:12
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does your 200w sony have a 9kg magnet which is 220mm wide? does it have a 4" vented voice coil?
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Location: Adelaide, SA
Registered: June 2004
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Mon, 31 January 2005 06:29
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I am not sure off the top of my head. I'll check when I get home as well as take a photo of what a real 1600WRMS sub looks like Compared to a crap one.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Mon, 31 January 2005 08:52
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Sigmeister wrote on Mon, 31 January 2005 16:29 | I am not sure off the top of my head. I'll check when I get home as well as take a photo of what a real 1600WRMS sub looks like Compared to a crap one.
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you do that. By the way is yours made in china or made in italy, and cost $260 EURO at wholesale level?
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Location: Geelong.Vic.AU
Registered: September 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Mon, 31 January 2005 13:35
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I understand how good the sub is , I would LOVE to put it up against anything with an xplode sticker on it
If i had more cash (and an amp to power it) id buy it
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Location: Adelaide, SA
Registered: June 2004
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Mon, 31 January 2005 22:11
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OK, here are the pics, the first one shows the size of the motor with a ruler to confirm the size.
The second one shows the size of the sub compared to a "normal" sized sub, as you can see the main differences are magnet size but also the rubber surround allowing a huge Xmax, and the spider is of much better quality. The third one shows the size comparrison of motors.
I am not doubting this is a good buy, I just am not a fan when people claim something that it isn't, then some poor sucker with a huge monobloc hooks up his "1500WRMS woofer" and frys the VC's.
Adire Brahmas are made in USA and retail for about $1100AUS.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Tue, 01 February 2005 08:49
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its actually 700wRMS my apologies
1500w Program power (some say this is RMS?)
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Location: bendigo, VIC
Registered: October 2004
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Tue, 01 February 2005 09:18
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Sigmeister wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 09:11 | OK, here are the pics, the first one shows the size of the motor with a ruler to confirm the size.
The second one shows the size of the sub compared to a "normal" sized sub, as you can see the main differences are magnet size but also the rubber surround allowing a huge Xmax, and the spider is of much better quality. The third one shows the size comparrison of motors.
I am not doubting this is a good buy, I just am not a fan when people claim something that it isn't, then some poor sucker with a huge monobloc hooks up his "1500WRMS woofer" and frys the VC's.
Adire Brahmas are made in USA and retail for about $1100AUS.
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are they neomidium magnets? cos my orions are hella smaller and are ooooh... 2000WRMS yes that is RMS check the website... here is a pic.
so even tho the magnets on his 700wrms dont look that big they might be neo, so they take less magnet for the power.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Tue, 01 February 2005 09:20
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agent_felix wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 19:18 |
Sigmeister wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 09:11 | OK, here are the pics, the first one shows the size of the motor with a ruler to confirm the size.
The second one shows the size of the sub compared to a "normal" sized sub, as you can see the main differences are magnet size but also the rubber surround allowing a huge Xmax, and the spider is of much better quality. The third one shows the size comparrison of motors.
I am not doubting this is a good buy, I just am not a fan when people claim something that it isn't, then some poor sucker with a huge monobloc hooks up his "1500WRMS woofer" and frys the VC's.
Adire Brahmas are made in USA and retail for about $1100AUS.
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are they neomidium magnets? cos my orions are hella smaller and are ooooh... 2000WRMS yes that is RMS check the website... here is a pic.
so even tho the magnets on his 700wrms dont look that big they might be neo, so they take less magnet for the power.
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neodymium is a LOT more efficient with using the power it is given, hence you dont need as big a magnet as a ceramic type.
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Location: bendigo, VIC
Registered: October 2004
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Tue, 01 February 2005 09:31
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so if the 700wrms woofer has neo magnets then they dont need to be huge do they? they brahma's would probly also have neo magnets.
but you cant say just because the magnet is small that they arent powerful...
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Location: bendigo, VIC
Registered: October 2004
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Tue, 01 February 2005 09:41
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if ur goin nuts at me then you might wanna know i was backing youup against the dickhead with the brahma...
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Tue, 01 February 2005 10:15
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im referring to sigmeister
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Location: Emerald
Registered: October 2004
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Thu, 03 February 2005 06:43
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I can vouch for Blake, having purchased some of his home theatre gear. He knows his stuff and I recommend him as a good seller.
Just let him sell his gear, I am sure that you can get in touch with him over msn or via a PM if you wanted to debate the topic.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Thu, 03 February 2005 11:51
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thanks mate
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Sun, 06 February 2005 07:49
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someone make an offer, i want it gone.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Wed, 09 February 2005 15:03
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Ok i'll take offers around $180, i need it gone now i bought some rear speakers for my HT setup. Believe me this is a GOOD BUY!
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Fri, 25 February 2005 00:58
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bump
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Thu, 10 March 2005 10:27
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Sun, 17 April 2005 13:03
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Location: Northern Beaches
Registered: April 2005
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Mon, 18 April 2005 14:22
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hey mate, i'll give you $180 for the sub, have the cash asap, just need to know a few things. How friggin heavy is it!!Lol, anyhow with sarcasm out of the way, im a serious buyer, and wanting to know, how much would it be for a custom built box as you said above that you would sell it for $100 more with a custom box?
So if i give you say $270 will it come with a box, with it, IN THE BOX? i am willing to pay this much, as this sub is good, i've seen one before and i think my eardrums exploded
Where are you located - please say sydney.... and what amp have you been running it with, would an audison SR2x do the job nice? reply asap!
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Location: Perth, WA
Registered: December 2004
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Tue, 19 April 2005 04:59
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V8_MA61
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Eldar.O.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Tue, 19 April 2005 13:07
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EldarO wrote on Tue, 19 April 2005 14:59 | V8_MA61
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thanks bro
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" 1500W subwoofer
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Fri, 06 May 2005 05:21
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this is too loud for my car even in the wrong bozx (SEALED NOT PoRTED)
so someone wanting doof needs to buy it.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" ITALIAN MADE SUBWOOFER 700wRMS, 4" VOICE COIL.
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Thu, 19 May 2005 06:30
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someone save my ears?
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Location: Perth, WA
Registered: December 2004
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Re: 12" ITALIAN MADE SUBWOOFER 700wRMS, 4" VOICE COIL.
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Mon, 23 May 2005 15:34
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this things a good 10-12kg aye?
since the magnets like 9kg...
curious
Eldar.O.
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Location: Perth
Registered: April 2005
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Re: 12" ITALIAN MADE SUBWOOFER 700wRMS, 4" VOICE COIL.
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Mon, 23 May 2005 16:02
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i would lurrvvee it, but shipping across to Perth.. hrmmm
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: 12" ITALIAN MADE SUBWOOFER 700wRMS, 4" VOICE COIL.
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Tue, 24 May 2005 06:43
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EldarO wrote on Tue, 24 May 2005 01:34 | this things a good 10-12kg aye?
since the magnets like 9kg...
curious
Eldar.O.
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yeah dude its fuckin heavy!
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