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Re: how to remove steering arm from control arm?
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Mon, 13 December 2004 11:46
 
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the socket with a bolt is called a "Ball joint"
you wont be pulling this apart, youll have to find the end of the ball joint and unhook there.
this is just in general remembering this pic is from a TA22 manual.
cheers
Nathan
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Re: how to remove steering arm from control arm?
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Mon, 13 December 2004 11:49
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Go buy a pitman arm puller or similar.
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Mon, 13 December 2004 12:07
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its much easier to seperate them while there in the car and get a ball joint splitter.
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Re: how to remove steering arm from control arm?
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Mon, 13 December 2004 13:04
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People most commonly try to hit the ball joint out by hitting on the loosened nut with the hammer (seems straight forward) and they drive themselves crazy doing so.
The ball joint has a tapered shaft and it slots into a corresponding taper on the "knuckle arm" as it is so called in the drawing above!
Rapping the side of the "knuckle arm" (at the point closest to where the tapered tie rod end ball joint is well at home) with a sizeable hammer (and don't fairy tap it), shocks the taper and often results in the two parts coming apart (it is necessary to hold a dolly at the opposing side of the knuckle end to where it will be struck).
Failing that? the ball joint separator thing is an awesome tool.
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Tue, 14 December 2004 07:45
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ahhhh crud... well if i just take both control and steering arms outta both cars, is there someone that could swap the steering
arm from the bent control arm and switch it to the straight one? would a wheel alignment place or someone like pedders do this
sorta thing? how much am i looking at in terms of cost? thanks for all the help so far!
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Tue, 14 December 2004 23:41
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Oh GOD dont hit the thing with a hammer, unless you want to buy new ball joints and then have the fun of installing them. Get your self a ball joint seperator, these are available at Repco. All you do is insert the forked end into the ball joint and then tighted the bolt in the middle and it shall force the other end of the ball joint to pop out. Tool costs like 15 bucks and takes about 10seconds to do. Much easier than being a tight arse and trying to use hammers to take it out.
Cheers Adam
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Re: how to remove steering arm from control arm?
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Wed, 15 December 2004 07:52
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ok then. so how do you go about putting the thing back together then? can you use the same tool to remove AND install as well Fattony?
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Re: how to remove steering arm from control arm?
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Wed, 15 December 2004 08:03
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That tool is only used to pop out a ball joint from an ajoining arm.
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Re: how to remove steering arm from control arm?
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Wed, 15 December 2004 12:03
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thanks for all the info guys. i dont have to actually remove the tie rods because only the control arm seems to be bent. guess i'll just take the seperated control arm/steering arm along with my car to somewhere that has the tools to re-install them. i'll need to get the wheels realigned anyways so i guess it wont cost that much more to get the parts swapped in. now... if i can just find a way to get there without having to turn left 
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Re: how to remove steering arm from control arm?
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Wed, 15 December 2004 21:15
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| Fattony wrote on Wed, 15 December 2004 10:41 |
Oh GOD dont hit the thing with a hammer, unless you want to buy new ball joints and then have the fun of installing them. Get your self a ball joint seperator, these are available at Repco. All you do is insert the forked end into the ball joint and then tighted the bolt in the middle and it shall force the other end of the ball joint to pop out. Tool costs like 15 bucks and takes about 10seconds to do. Much easier than being a tight arse and trying to use hammers to take it out.
Cheers Adam
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Adam, the way that I have described actually does NO damage to the items in question - it is merely a matter of shocking the taper free (as a fitter and machinist of 15yrs, I am pretty familiar with self locking tapers and how they work). I have used both methods on numerous occassions.
The separator is VERY capable of fucking the rubber boot, but it is quicker and easier.
Make no assumptions about being a tight arse if you DON'T understand the method being employed.
end rant
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Re: how to remove steering arm from control arm?
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Thu, 16 December 2004 00:48
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I must've been a little sensitive this morning
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Re: how to remove steering arm from control arm?
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Thu, 16 December 2004 01:37
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What I use, but like Jason said, it fucks the boot everytime.
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Re: how to remove steering arm from control arm?
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Thu, 16 December 2004 02:08
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Bah i use something different, never fucked a boot with wat i have i will get a pic later.
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Re: how to remove steering arm from control arm?
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Thu, 16 December 2004 08:40
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Well i went to come on to insert an image, but it wont let me 
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Re: how to remove steering arm from control arm?
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Thu, 16 December 2004 12:59
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I use both the bolt-up type seperator, and the big hammer method, depends on the job, how easy it is to get at, etc. I don't seem to remember ever actually stuffing a rubber unless is was already leaking/split anyway. Also, the ball joints aren't that hard to replace, or that expensive.
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how to remove steering arm from control arm?
help please!!!
