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NAJJE
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TA22 with updated brakes and performance pads, cant stop her from Squeeling Wed, 29 December 2004 11:32 Go to next message
Hey Peoples,

I have upgraded my brakes with S5 RX7 Calipers and 273mm slotted disks. I am running Bendix Ultimate pads and they are Very Noisy. When i am absolutely Tromping on the brakes, they dont seem to make much noise, but when driven normally they are Squealing to buggery especially at slow speeds. The Brakes and new pads have prolly only done 2000km's and the car is driven only on weekends (Not sure if this means much). Any Suggestions Possibly another Pad or somthing i can do to reduce this Squeal?

Cheers

Rob
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toof
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Re: TA22 with updated brakes and performance pads, cant stop her from Squeeling Wed, 29 December 2004 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
have you got anti squeal compound between the pad and the shims also a thin layer between the shim and the piston can help.


better question.. do you have any shims in there at all ?
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gold28
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Re: TA22 with updated brakes and performance pads, cant stop her from Squeeling Thu, 30 December 2004 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
as toof said. I usually just smear the back of the pads with molly grease and have never had a problem. Also depending on the pad backing plate shape, I usually put some grease around the locating lugs on either end.

Don't put grease on the pad face though .... That should be obvious.
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NAJJE
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Re: TA22 with updated brakes and performance pads, cant stop her from Squeeling Thu, 30 December 2004 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Do you mind me asking how grease on the back of the pad makes any difference? The Calipers are Reconditioned and the pads are new, i was thinking it had something to do with compound??? Unsure

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Rob
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M.W.P.
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Re: TA22 with updated brakes and performance pads, cant stop her from Squeeling Thu, 30 December 2004 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NAJJE wrote on Thu, 30 December 2004 21:57

Do you mind me asking how grease on the back of the pad makes any difference? The Calipers are Reconditioned and the pads are new, i was thinking it had something to do with compound??? Unsure



The noise comes from the pad vibrating against the brake caliper/piston... not the disc.
The shims & grease stop this.

[Updated on: Thu, 30 December 2004 11:46]

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feral4mr2
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Re: TA22 with updated brakes and performance pads, cant stop her from Squeeling Thu, 30 December 2004 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Quote:

have you got anti squeal compound between the pad and the shims also a thin layer between the shim and the piston can help.


better question.. do you have any shims in there at all ?

was going to ask the same thing. Smile the anti squeal compound dries kinda like a rubber, works better than grease.

did you break in the new pads?
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Norbie
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Re: TA22 with updated brakes and performance pads, cant stop her from Squeeling Fri, 31 December 2004 01:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmmm grease anywhere near the brakes seems like a bad idea... what happens when the brakes get hot enough to melt the grease and it starts dripping everywhere? Like on the friction surface for example?

(I worry about this because I've had my brakes hot enough to melt the grease in the wheel bearings, and it makes a hell of a mess....)
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gianttomato
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Re: TA22 with updated brakes and performance pads, cant stop her from Squeeling Fri, 31 December 2004 01:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Make some anti rattle plates out of some really thin sheet metal and use anti squeal paste.
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ChuckLandwehr
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Re: TA22 with updated brakes and performance pads, cant stop her from Squeeling Fri, 31 December 2004 04:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Must be quite a few anti squeal compounds on the market, all of which get my preference over grease.



Rule 1: New pads on old/new rotors, need to be scuffed before installation. A few figure 8's on the concrete/bitumen, will open up the surface on the pads, and enable them to bed quite quickly.

regards Chuck.
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toof
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Re: TA22 with updated brakes and performance pads, cant stop her from Squeeling Mon, 03 January 2005 00:09 Go to previous message
gold28 wrote on Thu, 30 December 2004 19:30



Don't put grease on the pad face though .... That should be obvious.



dont say that too quickly, ive seen someone decide that they didnt want to take their brakes apart (more likley they didnt know how) so they put the compound on the rotor and turned the rotor around to distribute it onto the pad. what was even stranger was they they then claimed not only did their brakes still work but they didnt make any noise. the proceeded to reccomend the same technique to someone else.


but yeah grease anywhere near the brakes sounds like a bad idea. the anti squeal compound is only $10 so just get some chuck it on the back of the pads and it will set like a rubber and normally sorts out any squeals.
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