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Location: Canberra, Australia
Registered: February 2004
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R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Wed, 05 January 2005 03:26
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Hey guys,
Got a mate going NA-T on his Supra, with how crap the W58 is, and how expensive the Getrag V160/161 is, wondering how easy would it be to fit an R154 onto a 2JZ-GE? Would any changes to the tailshaft be required?
Thanks for any help.
Dan.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Wed, 05 January 2005 03:44

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R154 and W58 have different output shafts on them, and from memory use different flywheels.
I don't think you will get an R154 into a JZA80 either.
The shifter will never line up, but I'll let someone who knows for sure answer that.
The W58 will hold an NA-T easily, providing he knows how to drive and doesn't do stupid shit.
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Location: Canberra, Australia
Registered: February 2004
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Wed, 05 January 2005 04:12

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He likes to drive it like he stole it, and has already broken one W58 with the NA-T. So another one would just be a short term patch up until funds for a getrag came up.
Dan.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Wed, 05 January 2005 04:13

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6 speed is the only way then.
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Registered: August 2002
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Wed, 05 January 2005 06:35

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JP needs to settle down.
Isn't an R154 a similar length to the V160?
IF it is, 1jz flywheel, clutch and R154.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Wed, 05 January 2005 06:38

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BlackSupra wrote on Wed, 05 January 2005 14:35 | JP needs to settle down.
Isn't an R154 a similar length to the V160?
IF it is, 1jz flywheel, clutch and R154.
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Think of the shifter on the V160 and 2jz W58...
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I supported Toymods
Location: I renounced punctuation
Registered: May 2002
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Wed, 05 January 2005 07:12

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Use the R154 out of a 1JZGTE JZZ30 Soarer.
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Location: Canberra, Australia
Registered: February 2004
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Wed, 05 January 2005 17:54

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Was just thinking, I haven't heard of any problems with shifters when mounting V16x getrag into JZZ Soarers, would think if an R154 wasn't going to fit in a JZA80, that a V160 wouldn't fit in a 1JZ Soarer?
GiantTomato, so you're sure it will fit alright? Just tailshaft?
Dan.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: July 2002
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Wed, 05 January 2005 23:39

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a r154 compared to a jza8- non turbo w58 is about an inch longer backwards for the stick. its not really that much different.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Thu, 06 January 2005 00:09

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if he's breaking W58 gearboxes in an NA jza80, he needs to learn how to shift.
anyone who's been in my car will tell you I'm not nice on my gbox at all (with heavy duty clutch), and I've yet to break one!
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: July 2002
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Thu, 06 January 2005 00:35

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i agree with draven
w58's are also way nicer to shift.
I dont mind my r154.. i think it needs a better grade oil though.
R154's when 'cold' are clunky but alright when warm
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Location: Sydney
Registered: March 2003
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Thu, 06 January 2005 01:12

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Did JP blow his box? That car is running 360rwkw, The W58 is not Shit, Its good, but not strong enough for that power. That car has gone through a few W58's.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Fri, 07 January 2005 06:05

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gianttomato wrote on Wed, 05 January 2005 15:12 | Use the R154 out of a 1JZGTE JZZ30 Soarer.
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Yeah, I didnt know they were the same
Proof!
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Fri, 07 January 2005 07:32

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CrUZsida wrote on Fri, 07 January 2005 16:05 |
gianttomato wrote on Wed, 05 January 2005 15:12 | Use the R154 out of a 1JZGTE JZZ30 Soarer.
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Yeah, I didnt know they were the same
Proof!

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that shifter is shiteloads different to an ma70 for future reference..not really relevant but hey
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Location: Montrose, VIC
Registered: May 2002
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Fri, 07 January 2005 12:32

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I've got an R154 in the shed from a UZZ30, and it doesn't have the shifter back that far at all...
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Fri, 07 January 2005 12:53

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mrshin wrote on Fri, 07 January 2005 20:32 | I've got an R154 in the shed from a UZZ30, and it doesn't have the shifter back that far at all...
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A) You might wanna reread the model number.
B) If it IS from a ZZ30, you have had a rear housing swap
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I supported Toymods
Location: I renounced punctuation
Registered: May 2002
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Fri, 07 January 2005 13:21

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Besides, the V8s didn't come with a manual.
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Location: Montrose, VIC
Registered: May 2002
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Fri, 07 January 2005 13:23

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Well, I pulled it off a 1JZGTE on a pallet, that was sitting there with ECU etc., plus it sure as hell didn't have a front sump (chaser) or I would have collared that too.
Only thing I can think of is that it's from a JZA70 and someone had swapped the ECUs, and mislabelled the engine? Ahh well, saves me having the swap the rear housing for what I want anyway
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Location: Montrose, VIC
Registered: May 2002
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Re: R154 into JZA80 2JZ-GE?
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Fri, 07 January 2005 13:24
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GT, smartarse I meant JZZ30...
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