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Exhaust to suit 96kw 4age
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Wed, 05 January 2005 15:40
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Hey guys,
I have a JDM FWD 4age 96kw in my ae92 levin. I have read previous posts and basically reached the idea to get a 2.25" exhaust to suit my car.
But....After going to a leading Adelaide exhaust shop i was told that 2.25" was too big for my 1.6L engine and that i would be wiser to get a 2" mandrel bent exhaust, and being mandrel bent would mean that it would be just as good as a 2.25" pressed exhaust.
Now i am unsure which way to go, whether to get a 2.25" press, 2.25" mandrel bent or 2" mandrel. What do you guys suggest?
Also what sort of boxes would you suggest?
I was looking at an apexi n1 but was told that the inner part of the muffler was not stainless steel and that i should be looking at a junbl or something of the like. Dont mind paying a bit more for a better brand.
What mufflers/boxs sound good on 4age or which have you had experiences with? Prefer to stay away for the cheapish brands.
Also has anyone had extractors made up for their 4age? I was told that if i were to go 2.25" that the extractors wouldnt actually fit, that i would need custom made ones. Any ideas?
Sorry guys i know that there has probably been other topics on this, but this was a one of situation i wanted clarification about.
Any help will be appreciated!
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May 2002
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Re: Exhaust to suit 96kw 4age
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Wed, 05 January 2005 15:46
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Lukey.
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Adelaide
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Adelaide
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Re: Exhaust to suit 96kw 4age
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Wed, 05 January 2005 15:57
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| fOOZ86 wrote on Thu, 06 January 2005 02:16 |
Lukey.
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Heard lukey are middle of the road, average brand after something a bit more!
Also bolt on kits are just a bit too expensive for me. Had a look at some fujubito (spelling) magazines and it seemed that the bolt ones from US and JP were almost twice the aussie made ones.
Looking at a system around the 1k mark, from the cat back.
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Re: Exhaust to suit 96kw 4age
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Wed, 05 January 2005 16:02
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Oh I didnt notice that you are in adelaide. Head down to exhaust technology on goodwood road (Next to the underpass) and speak to Mark. He should be able to hook you up with something decent.
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Adelaide
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October 2004
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Re: Exhaust to suit 96kw 4age
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Wed, 05 January 2005 16:14
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Thats exactly where i went and ET suggest the 2" mandrel bend exhaust from the cat back with jun bl muffler. Little bit more expensive for the larger 2.5" muffler which looks alot larger and better than the smaller 2" one.
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Re: Exhaust to suit 96kw 4age
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Wed, 05 January 2005 16:20
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To be honest a 2" system should be more than enough for a na car. Hell ET supplied me with a 2.5" system for my 5.0L Calais and it was great.
Too many people get exhausts that are too big. They might sound better but usually dont make as much power as a properly sized one.
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Re: Exhaust to suit 96kw 4age
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Wed, 05 January 2005 16:44
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Yeh was pretty sure 2.25 should be fine, but 2" mandrel should be fine. What sort of power gain should i look for? I feel its going to be more response and torque than KW!
Also has anyone ever used an exhaust restriction valve in which via a switch u can regulate the gases exiting via ur exhaust and thus around the CBD etc you can keep your exhaust levels to a minimum?
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: Exhaust to suit 96kw 4age
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Wed, 05 January 2005 19:47
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$1000 for catback is pretty expensive for a non turbo car. Good luck with it, tell me how it sounds!
It's not exactly legal but a straight through type muffler and nothing else sounds awesome.
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Re: Exhaust to suit 96kw 4age
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Thu, 06 January 2005 01:45
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those exhaust restrictors are a load of crap makes about 2-3db difference.
if its only a cat back system then why spend so much on it?? buying only name brand stuff doesnt make sense when there is cheap stuff available that will do the same thing, its not like you have a ferrari man. seriously a 2" pressbent system would be fine on your cat back system. you may notice an increase in top end after about 6000rpm maybe 6500 it will want to keep going a lot more than the prevous system but unless you do a bit of work at the front of the car the rest of the system isnt going to make much difference.
My ideal system would be something like this, remember you have a 1.6l 4 cyl N/A
extend the secondaries on the standard exhaust manifold by about 50cm, add a high flow cat (200ish?) 2.25" pressbent mild steel. 1 or 2 reasonators then a straight thru style box, even one of those ricey cannon things, it will be loudish, but will give awesome note at 7000-7500
i have seen flow tests compairing mandrel bent vs pressbent and the difference is negliable, so go up a .25" in pressbent to make up for the difference
stainless steel exhaust is over rated rice crap, mild steel will last 5-10 years anyway. a stainless system would outlive the car! waste of money imho
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August 2004
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Re: Exhaust to suit 96kw 4age
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Thu, 06 January 2005 11:15
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| Hunty wrote on Thu, 06 January 2005 12:45 |
My ideal system would be something like this, remember you have a 1.6l 4 cyl N/A
extend the secondaries on the standard exhaust manifold by about 50cm, add a high flow cat (200ish?) 2.25" pressbent mild steel. 1 or 2 reasonators then a straight thru style box, even one of those ricey cannon things, it will be loudish, but will give awesome note at 7000-7500
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That'd be about the same setup i'd go for. Except for the stupid cannon.
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i have seen flow tests compairing mandrel bent vs pressbent and the difference is negliable, so go up a .25" in pressbent to make up for the difference
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And for a tight bend, like over where the rear axle is on a RWD car, use a mandrel bend or go up a size with a pressbend. Mandrel bends are a waste of money unless its a high performance high dollar race car.
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I Supported Toymods
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south Melbourne/KL
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June 2004
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Re: Exhaust to suit 96kw 4age
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Thu, 06 January 2005 13:52
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IMHO, exhaust should be done frm the front for performance. headers are more important than cat back. then go for high flow cat, then the rest. follow the air flow.
make sense??
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Re: Exhaust to suit 96kw 4age
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Thu, 06 January 2005 17:28
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I agree - usually the worst part of a system is the manifold. Too many people get a cat back, decide that it isnt good enough and start looking at extractors and high flow cats - the only problem then is that they have a catback that isnt properly suited to the new parts. If youre going to get a system get the full system. Youll be glad that you did.
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