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f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 06:10
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I just bought the latest motor where they were doing the tests for Performance car of the year, and they didnt like the f6 at all, it only made 15rwkw more than the xr6t(but some other test cars only put out same power as the 6t)
its acceleration 0-60 and 1/4 was slower than there xr6t test cars.. and also slower around winton.
They also killed 2 f6's clutches while testing
wonder whats going on over at ford.
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Perth
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July 2004
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 06:14
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sounds quality.
killed 2 clutches??
tsk ;p
thats pretty bad.
how much does the xr6t cost compared to the f6?
a cheap cutdown model is it?
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Sydney
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October 2004
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 06:17
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XR6T = 46K (cheaper now)
FPV F6 = 58K
I was hoping the performance of the F6 would be superior to the XR6T...
hmmm... just get the XR6T and put the F6 body kit on 
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 06:19
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but its still a ford
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 06:25
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Sounds like the person writing the article is a limp wristed fag.
The F6 has more torque than any other car on the road apart from one which I cant remember. This is the reason it only comes with a manual box.
Reason for killing clutches, is probably because the car is fitted with a clutch that limp dick people like that editor can use.
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March 2003
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 06:32
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How much torque does it have? thats a big call!
Clutch issue is on Ford, it should be able to with stand abuse. Until Ford can fix this issue, people will stay away!
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 06:34
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| KOFFEE-BLACK wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 16:32 |
How much torque does it have? thats a big call!
Clutch issue is on Ford, it should be able to with stand abuse. Until Ford can fix this issue, people will stay away!
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No clutch fool proof 
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 06:41
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the typhoon has a duble plate cluthc
yet all the other fpv cars and xr6t have single plates and go fine
ford blamed it on a clip
but still.. it doesent out accelerate an xr6t..
the power figures on the dyno jumped over the place from car to car too
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 06:57
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oh
and 550nm
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September 2004
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 07:06
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i wouldnt be suprised if all that torque makes it hard to launch without torching the rear tyres and they are only rated at 30 kw more than an xr6t so 15 kw is certainly believable considering how restrictive and small that i/c is would heat soak in no time.
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Newcastle
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June 2004
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 07:51
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Ford, what did you expect
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 08:19
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knowing the man who built the motors and helped developed the package that became the f6 typhoon , i can pretty much say youve not even Seen what the car can really produce yet ..
the clip in the clutch was an issue - and is now solved , Motors journo's werent Flat shifting ( the data logs taken show this ) , and the head guy at ford MR Flint - caused his own little firefight with the editors of motor, which stir up comments like this from the public gallery.
At the end of the day , the car is really a slighty tougher XR6t with an upgraded handling and cooling package, but if you knew how much or how little needs to be changed to make the " measily " 15 rwkw " difference double , triple or quadruple the power difference it makes now - youd realise that the barra 6 has only just seen the tip of the iceberg for power development so far.
NEVER ever underestimate a XR6T guys ..
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 08:19
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I think you have forgotten that more power does not equate to faster times!
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 08:30
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| Cool1 wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 19:19 |
I think you have forgotten that more power does not equate to faster times!
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your right
BUT i thought more power, more torque, a better gearbox with an extra forward gear and better gearing would..
in both 1/4 and track times
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 08:37
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Not when you have a dickhead magazine tosser in the drivers seat.
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 08:38
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| Jag7799 wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 19:30 |
| Cool1 wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 19:19 |
I think you have forgotten that more power does not equate to faster times!
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your right
BUT i thought more power, more torque, a better gearbox with an extra forward gear and better gearing would..
in both 1/4 and track times
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better gearbox?
what manual is the typhoon using?
In normal xr6t's the auto's are a lot quicker and obviously more consistent. BTW my gf's parents have 2 xr6t's and her dad who has a heavily worked manual GT falcon still chose the auto.
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 09:21
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| Chris Davey wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 19:38 |
| Jag7799 wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 19:30 |
| Cool1 wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 19:19 |
I think you have forgotten that more power does not equate to faster times!
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your right
BUT i thought more power, more torque, a better gearbox with an extra forward gear and better gearing would..
in both 1/4 and track times
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better gearbox?
what manual is the typhoon using?
In normal xr6t's the auto's are a lot quicker and obviously more consistent. BTW my gf's parents have 2 xr6t's and her dad who has a heavily worked manual GT falcon still chose the auto.
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Doesn't use the same tremec gear boxes that XR6 turbo has? All I heared is that because of the hugh amount of torque the F6 has they had too use the manual, because ford didn't have a strong enough automatic transmission. though if I had that amount of torque on hand I'd be very happy with the auto! So yeah be very interesting too see what happens if they made an auto for it
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 11:47
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| Cool1 wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 19:37 |
Not when you have a dickhead magazine tosser in the drivers seat.
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You know the writers at Motor magazine personally then? Or maybe you're just slagging off on people you've never met, coz they wrote about flaws in your dream car?
Perhaps you're just angry about your small penis . . .
Oh yeah - Screw autos: Why put another layer of computer interferance and butchered feedback from the drivetrain between yourself and the road/rear end ?
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 12:22
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| Chris Davey wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 19:38 |
| Jag7799 wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 19:30 |
| Cool1 wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 19:19 |
I think you have forgotten that more power does not equate to faster times!
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your right
BUT i thought more power, more torque, a better gearbox with an extra forward gear and better gearing would..
in both 1/4 and track times
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better gearbox?
what manual is the typhoon using?
In normal xr6t's the auto's are a lot quicker and obviously more consistent. BTW my gf's parents have 2 xr6t's and her dad who has a heavily worked manual GT falcon still chose the auto.
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It uses a jap 6 speed the auto is allways goin to be better for 1/4 mile times as you can spool the turbo against the stall and any idiot can shift a sequential.
And classique is right when u add a big turbo to a big cube engine its allways going to be a recipie for fun.
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 14:37
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| 4agte wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 20:22 |
It uses a jap 6 speed the auto is allways goin to be better for 1/4 mile times as you can spool the turbo against the stall and any idiot can shift a sequential.
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Actually, it uses a big ass Tremec T56, like the Commodores, but they went nuts on it trying to refine the shift-quality and general niceness of it. Ford got their own version of the box basically.
Falcon turbo is quite large, but only runs small boost. Too much boost and the damn thing makes the XR8 and GT look weak 
V10 in BMW's was backed by 7-speed sequential manual.
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 22:08
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On the boost, from memory the wr6t runs 5 lbs?7 lbs?i cant remember and the intercooler is pretty measly and the exhaust quite restrictive.so, bigger cooler,exhaust, boost controller and a highflow=a lot more than your 15,30kw difference.
Either way, when i took my cousins xr6t ute for a spin i had no complaints on power, response or handling-Just some clean arse-out action!!!!
Oon another thing, i think in the latest speed mag, a tuner has 912kw and 1300Nm pumping out of an xr6t - forged bottom end, billet crank, giant turbo, Motec for tune.so these things certainly have some potential
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Wed, 12 January 2005 23:36
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| st184 sillycar wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 21:47 |
| Cool1 wrote on Wed, 12 January 2005 19:37 |
Not when you have a dickhead magazine tosser in the drivers seat.
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You know the writers at Motor magazine personally then?
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No I dont know them personally, but all people that write for magazines these days are tossers. I'm sorry if these car mags are your bibles, but its the truth.
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Or maybe you're just slagging off on people you've never met, coz they wrote about flaws in your dream car?
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The Typhooooon would have to be one of my dream cars. I have driven one and I know that they would piss all over any car you will ever own.
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Perhaps you're just angry about your small penis . . .
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Cant be too small. It tore you a new arsehole 
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Oh yeah - Screw autos: Why put another layer of computer interferance and butchered feedback from the drivetrain between yourself and the road/rear end ?
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Because its proven that the auto does quicker 1/4 mile and track times
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Thu, 13 January 2005 01:09
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*gives everyone in the room shotguns*
cool 1, have u driven an xr6t aswell as an f6?
if so, how did they feel compared
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Thu, 13 January 2005 01:32
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| bbaacchhyy wrote on Thu, 13 January 2005 12:02 |
| Cool1 wrote on Thu, 13 January 2005 10:06 |
Because its proven that the auto does quicker 1/4 mile and track times
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And in the case of the new Z Series HSV's , the auto has a higher top speed !!!!
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The auto & 1/4 mile thing I know about. By krikey it pisses me off too ! !  The HSV auto/top speed thing is all about gearing. In particular, how absurdly high 6th gear is in the holden-spec T56.
Better Track times tho? where? who proved it? which car? I thought torque converters lost too much power for track work. 
I have nothing against the Typhoon btw - Damn fine idea! I'm TOTALLY impressed by the 500hp Turbo (yup), and that it's Manual only. YES! GOLD! Ford won't unleash it's full potential until they work out how to make the V8 quicker. It just wouldn't do to make the V8 look bad . . . . .
I'm not trying to brag or anything, but I've driven virtually every Australian released GM car reviewed in car mags for the last 5 years, and I agree with 99% of what most motoring journo's say. That's good AND bad by the way, sure I've got a soft-spot for Holdens 'coz I work for them, but the Motor tests always seem fair, honest and even-handed.
Even when the car I like loses.
p.s. the Astra Turbo Coupe IS that good. 
For a Front wheel drive.
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Thu, 13 January 2005 06:37
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"Perhaps you're just angry about your small penis . . . Razz"
"Cant be too small. It tore you a new arsehole :)"
LOL! classic! :_)
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Thu, 13 January 2005 06:41
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Xr6 turbo 46k + 1k uni chip =more power than f6 typhoon. 5k on top is 330kw, 5k for brembos
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Re: f6 typhoon a dissapointment
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Thu, 13 January 2005 10:14
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Thu, 13 January 2005 17:41 |
Xr6 turbo 46k + 1k uni chip =more power than f6 typhoon. 5k on top is 330kw, 5k for brembos
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I would do go this option as well. So would most people on here. But most old people don't want to mod their car because of warranties and insurance and all that bullshit.
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