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Am i wasting my time????
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Sun, 16 January 2005 10:27
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atm i have a 18rgeu engine. It has been fully rebuilt using low comp pistons but in order to run the boost i want im gonna have to strip it again and get it oringed meaning more cost. I also havnt been able to get the ecu tuned properly and dyno tuners want $500+ to tune it for me. Im looking at about $2000 to get it done now. Am i wasting my time on the full turbo build (havent got a turbo manifold yet either). I also wanted to stay 4 cyl to get cheaper rego and be in lower classes at drags etc etc.
am i better off selling all the engine, carbs, efi setup etc etc and going straight for the 1ggte or even 1jzgte if i can find a cheapish one???
let me know your thoughts people.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Am i wasting my time????
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Sun, 16 January 2005 10:33
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| people100 wrote on Sun, 16 January 2005 21:27 |
atm i have a 18rgeu engine. It has been fully rebuilt using low comp pistons but in order to run the boost i want im gonna have to strip it again and get it oringed meaning more cost. I also havnt been able to get the ecu tuned properly and dyno tuners want $500+ to tune it for me. Im looking at about $2000 to get it done now. Am i wasting my time on the full turbo build (havent got a turbo manifold yet either). I also wanted to stay 4 cyl to get cheaper rego and be in lower classes at drags etc etc.
am i better off selling all the engine, carbs, efi setup etc etc and going straight for the 1ggte or even 1jzgte if i can find a cheapish one???
let me know your thoughts people.
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1g... there needs to be a thumbs up icon for smilies
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toowoomba qld
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March 2004
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Re: Am i wasting my time????
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Sun, 16 January 2005 10:35
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I'd keep it. as you say. find another motor cheaply. alothough if you can find one of the motors your talking about cheaper then $2000. then I'd get piss the 18R off. It's all about cost.
N.B-If looking at another motor make sure its in good nic. as engine rebuilds may be involved in the other motor opition
just my two cents
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane
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Re: Am i wasting my time????
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Sun, 16 January 2005 10:43
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Keep the 18RG. 1G's are ghey and 1JZ's are as common as cum on curtains.
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Rocky Mountains, Canada
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May 2002
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Re: Am i wasting my time????
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Sun, 16 January 2005 10:54
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| Cool1 wrote on Sun, 16 January 2005 21:13 |
Keep the 18RG. 1G's are ghey and 1JZ's are as common as cum on curtains.
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Why are 1G's "ghey" ?
Dollar for dollar they are going to beat any 18RG.
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Rocklea qld
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February 2003
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Re: Am i wasting my time????
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Sun, 16 January 2005 10:54
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half baked 18rg projects in the scrap pile are also about to be common....I dont get enough time to try to tune the ecu (dont know what im doing either) and i can get a cheap as 1ggte setup but i think its a gen1 but its complete and was running when removed
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Re: Am i wasting my time????
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Sun, 16 January 2005 11:04
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| M.W.P. wrote on Sun, 16 January 2005 20:54 |
Dollar for dollar they are going to beat any 18RG.
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Dollar for dollar maybe. But with some work I think the 18RG will piss all over a 1G.
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: Am i wasting my time????
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Sun, 16 January 2005 11:11
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don't forget to add:
1G to W5x bellhousing
flysheel/clutch/pressure plate/clutch slave to suit
extra plumbing to bring clutch line from drv side to pass side
W55/57/8 gearbox
modified rear trans mount to suit
modified tailshaft
exhaust to suit
...you could (and should) run the 1G factory ECU - but with some research and prepararion, your MS ECU could run the 1G hardware (including the TVIS, ignition , etc).
cheers, charles.
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Rocklea qld
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February 2003
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Re: Am i wasting my time????
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Sun, 16 January 2005 11:12
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its more of a time thing now....the rg has turned into 2 long years oh hell now....The missus is about to spit a kid out and im getting real busy with work now so i wanna just finish a conversion so ive got a weekend toy to have some fun with. the amount of money and time that has gone into my engine i should be able to pic up a complete gen 2 or 3 1ggte package and fit it myself. i already have a FMIC, turbo timer, boost gauge, 3 inch mandrel bent exhaust w55 box. so just need engine, bell housing and ecu/loom and fit it...alot easier then finishing my engine. well for me anyway
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Rocklea qld
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February 2003
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Re: Am i wasting my time????
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Sun, 16 January 2005 11:13
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if i tried to run the 1g of my MS id just run into the same tuning problems i have now wouldnt I. Like i dont have any idea what im doing???
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Re: Am i wasting my time????
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Sun, 16 January 2005 11:16
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I'm glad someone else just wants their project on the road 
your story makes my night a little more bearable.
depends if you want original or just a toy. if you're after a toy, I'd go the 1g. crank up the boost a little and you'll have a fun little car. the 18r-gte definitly has more kudos, but unless you're purposefully trying to build something different (or have a specific interest in racing in a certain class, which you alluded to) the 1g is the go
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: Am i wasting my time????
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Sun, 16 January 2005 11:20
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the 1G would be a 'bolt in' compared to the 18RG trauma - i take it you talking about into the SA63?
MS would be a tuning issue - but with a going engine, it could piggyback onto some of the sensors (or like some of the US MS guys, ran two sets of sensors) or mounted via some kind convertor board to match 1G ECU pins to MS ecu pins... but it's something i'd suggest AFTER you've got the car stable and comfortable.
only issue would be the right mix of engine mounts, cross member and sump?
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Location:
Rocklea qld
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February 2003
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Re: Am i wasting my time????
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Sun, 16 January 2005 11:23
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i was only think about taking to drags etc and burnout comps for fun on the weekends but i assume with burnouts turbo cars go straight to open class anyway so doesnt matter what i run i guess....But im just looking for a bit of easyness atm to get the thing done. yes it is to go into the sa63 when i get it charles.
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brisbane
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